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Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
Wed Jan 10, 2024, 05:12 PM Jan 2024

If there are GOP voters afraid to admit that they don't support Trump (EDITED)

Last edited Wed Jan 10, 2024, 06:26 PM - Edit history (1)

They will be under represented in the Iowa results. NOTE: The initial OP was inaccurate in describing the Iowa Republican Caucus process. It described the process Democrats had been using in Iowa in prior Presidential election years, which involved physically standing with a group who shared your support for a specific candidate. But Republicans use a different process (thank you to those who pointed this out) that theoretically ensures voter privacy but appears subject to potential abuse of that privacy.

The Des Moines Register describes it:

"...In fact, there’s not even a traditional ballot. Republicans typically hand out blank slips of paper, and caucusgoers write down the name of whomever they want to be president...

...Caucus participants write down the name of their preferred candidate for president on the sheet of paper and hand it in...

The results are taken to a table at the front or back of the room and tallied immediately. A representative from each campaign is invited to watch."

Speeches are given at the caucus on behalf of the various candidates before voting begins. Anyone uncomfortable with public acting might have to do some anyway to not be outed as Anti-Trump by their responses, assuming of course that they don't back Trump. Unlike at an actual polling booth, it seems there are no real safeguards against, for an example, an inquisitive spouse attempting to see who their partner is writing in on that blank sheet of paper. Depending on one's personal circumstances, some might find it risky to attempt to write in their true preference for President.



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dchill

(38,522 posts)
1. Which means husbands would know...
Wed Jan 10, 2024, 05:14 PM
Jan 2024

...how their wives voted. And everyone else's wife, for that matter. Just as God intended.

hlthe2b

(102,351 posts)
2. Exactly. Caucuses are peer-pressure incubators in the best of settings. Colorado once had them
Wed Jan 10, 2024, 05:23 PM
Jan 2024

and the Democratic ones, at least, were pleasant and civil. But I cannot imagine trying to stand up in an R caucus against Trump--especially if your boss and co-workers and neighbors--and everyone else was there opposing you (and taking note of what you do/say).

Unfortunately, the weather may also be an issue. It won't the the Anti-Trump folks most motivated to come out, given these circumstances.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
8. I stand about 80% corrected
Wed Jan 10, 2024, 06:07 PM
Jan 2024

Thank you for your clarification. Yes, Republicans do it different I found out after looking into your post. There is no physical clustering in support of various candidates in Iowa, but it seems there are not the full set of privacy safeguards that actual polling booths have either.

The Des Moines Register describes voting in a GOP Iowa Caucus this way:

"...In fact, there’s not even a traditional ballot. Republicans typically hand out blank slips of paper, and caucusgoers write down the name of whomever they want to be president.

Caucus participants write down the name of their preferred candidate for president on the sheet of paper and hand it in.

Unlike in past iterations of the Iowa Democratic caucuses, where Iowans stood in corners of the room to be counted, Republicans keep their choices a secret.

The results are taken to a table at the front or back of the room and tallied immediately. A representative from each campaign is invited to watch."

An intrusive spouse, for example, can attempt to observe who their wife or husband is writing on that blank sheet of paper. Hell, if someone watches from a distance anyone trying to write in "Ramaswamy", it probably would be obvious that they were not voting for "Trump"

There are also speeches given in favor of each candidate before "voting." So anyone who is pretending to support Trump would likely have to do a little public acting feigning enthusiasm for him to not potentially draw suspicion.

SWBTATTReg

(22,156 posts)
4. They always been cowards in dealing w/ tRUMP, and his thugs. Afraid of his damn mouth and his mob. And
Wed Jan 10, 2024, 05:38 PM
Jan 2024

the current method that republicans use in dealing w/ tRUMP? They resign or leave the Congress, and dump the problem onto others instead of staying there in Congress and dealing w/ their own mess that they allowed in. Cowards.

LiberalFighter

(51,067 posts)
5. If fewer trumpians show up for the caucus it would have the same impact.
Wed Jan 10, 2024, 05:40 PM
Jan 2024

They might use the excuse it is too cold or have something else to do.

brooklynite

(94,721 posts)
6. The Republican Caucus vote is NOT public...
Wed Jan 10, 2024, 05:49 PM
Jan 2024

You have to be in the Caucus room, but Republicans drop a secret ballot into a box, rather than use the Democratic approach of standing in a corner and doing a head count.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
9. See my Reply #8. Yes you are correct, but the process is not as reliably "secret"...
Wed Jan 10, 2024, 06:09 PM
Jan 2024

...as an actual election.

Johonny

(20,881 posts)
7. If Trump lost one of the early states
Wed Jan 10, 2024, 06:04 PM
Jan 2024

It could bring more of these people out. Iowa won't be that place. New Hampshire though.

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