Pic Of The Moment: Republicans Taking America To A Dark Place

[EarlG]

Republicans Push To Legalize ‘Property Owners’ Killing Homeless People in Kentucky

[cbabe]

1. There will be unintended consequences. How will he keep his family and friends safe?

[Lucky Luciano]

2. I think the sentiment is directed at squatters who try to steal your house.

We should be able to enter our own home and if there is an intruder, deal with it.

[et tu]

4. do you live in a tent? nt

[Lucky Luciano]

44. Fortunately not a problem for me on the 62nd floor of my building...but..

Show a fake lease and the cops can’t do anything. A lengthy process to get a court ordered eviction is required. You will win, but it is one hell of an ordeal. This is beyond anything I can wrap my mind around.

https://www.dmagazine.com/publications/d-magazine/2021/january/squatters-stole-my-east-dallas-house/

[et tu]

45. this will be used

against the less fortunate, sadly
the homeless will be targeted~

[oldsoftie]

46. I've had it happen to me in GA. Luckily there were other options I could take.

A bit of a gray area, but it saved me a lot of time & money
Its happening all over; an empty house gets taken over, they fake a lease to get power on & dare you to do anything about it. And they usually trash the house in the process. In some states, it can take you a YEAR to get them out. Totally unacceptable.
While THIS law is ridiculous there should be something more specific put into law to deal with these squatters.

[progressoid]

6. If only there were some sort of public employee who we could call to deal with this.

We could even give them a special phone number. Something short and easy to remember like 911 or something.

Or we could just shoot them.

[Jimbo S]

27. Of cases I've heard of

LE had no authority to do anything.

[Lucky Luciano]

42. Squatters can sometimes take months to years to get out of your house.

It’s mind boggling that someone can steal your house if you go on a month or two vacation whereas if an intruder comes in when you’re sleeping you can freely shoot to kill.

[canuckledragger]

48. You seem to be looking for a reason to shoot someone

Maybe you should see someone about antisocial issues.

[Lucky Luciano]

52. It's normal to not want to let anyone steal your home.

I’m sure a quick google search for squatter nightmares would make any rational person’s jaw drop.

I have only shot a gun once and I am not interested in guns…but if someone tried to steal something worth hundreds of thousands from me while thumbing their nose at me. That’s a tough one to let slide.

[canuckledragger]

54. Thou dost protest too much.

...as you introduce imaginary scenario after scenario to justify your shooting someone.

Why is that?

[Lucky Luciano]

55. Squatting is a trigger. That it is legal to use delay tactics to get back your home...

…is astonishing. I don’t normally think much about it…but the nightmares do get reported on the news occasionally and it is beyond bizarre that the situation cannot be instantly rectified by calling the police or something. Kind of a helpless feeling I guess.

[Initech]

12. Yeah but just straight execution? That's pretty damn extreme.

And the GOP's murder and execution fetish is the stuff of nightmares. Totally insane that they continue to go there. They won't be happy until there's a full on genocide happening in this country.

[sop]

32. Haven't heard of any "squatters who try to steal your house," though a lot of big banks have done it.

Only cases of "squatters who try to steal your home" that I'm aware of (at least in Florida) are people who file adverse possession claims. According to centuries-old laws, a "squatter" who occupies an abandoned property for seven consecutive years can submit an adverse possession claim in an attempt to take legal ownership. There are still antiquated law on the books allowing adverse possession, but it's not legal in most places.

From the Florida Times-Union: "The Jacksonville Sheriff's Office recently arrested four people on charges of taking part in an organized scheme to defraud. Authorities said the suspects, each charged with grand theft, illegally took over vacant homes and either lived in them or rented them out...'They had no lawful right to the residences at all, never had it...Filing for adverse possession on a piece of property is one thing. But to formally acquire it through that process is another,' according to Jim Lima, land records division chief in Duval County."

"In order to acquire a piece of property, an applicant must file a claim, pay the taxes on the property for seven years and either cultivate, improve the property or live on it throughout that period. Once seven years have passed, the claimant can petition a judge to give him or her the title...Changing the locks on or breaking into a home you don't own can be criminal. Also, the owner of the property needs only to pay taxes on the property once during the seven-year period to have the claim withdrawn."

"The Duval County Property Appraiser's Office has received three adverse possession claims this year...Prior to that, in a 10-year stretch, there was one...In terms of acquiring the title to a piece of property, the adverse possession route has not been successful."

https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/crime/2012/03/17/adverse-possession-squatters-look-cover-under-centuries-old-law/15872476007/

I wouldn't worry too much about having to kill hordes of squatters trying to steal your home.

[oldsoftie]

47. These aren't "adverse possession" cases. And they're happening ALL OVER.

I dont know how you could've missed it. These are just a couple stories. Just hot Google & you'll see page after page.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2023/07/03/squatters-rights-leave-homeowners-forgotten/70364321007/

https://abc13.com/houston-squatters-home-trespassers-meyerland-rental-property-linda-giang-homeowner/12998931/
https://www.foxnews.com/us/long-island-man-who-hasnt-paid-his-mortgage-in-20-years-dodges-eviction-again
https://www.koaa.com/news/news5-investigates/2017/09/07/squatters-take-over-mans-home-while-hes-out-of-state/

[sop]

51. It's not happening ALL OVER in this country.

Do you seriously believe there is a nationwide epidemic of squatters breaking into other people's homes, changing the locks and taking up residence there...and nothing can be done about it? Just because you found a few articles about a few criminals doing it?

These are criminal acts. People commit all manner of crimes. You call the police and have them arrested.

[Lucky Luciano]

53. Not so easy. They produce fake lease and you have to go to court

…to evict them. Cops will not do anything. Can take months or years in some instances. It’s so insane.

[oldsoftie]

61. EXACTLY.

[oldsoftie]

60. Did you READ any of the articles? NO, the cops WONT arrest them!!

They'll tell you "this is a civil matter" and LEAVE. You're being willfully ignorant of this problem. It IS happening al. over the country; red states, blue states, big & small cities.
Just Google it yourself and see how many stories come up. And maybe WAKE UP

[sop]

62. Police don't arrest people involved in civil disputes, the courts handle these matters, as they should.

If a tenant or homeowner refuses to leave, for non-payment of rent or a mortgage foreclosure, there is a legal court-ordered process to evict them. That process takes time, both tenants' and property owners' rights have to be protected. If/when legal eviction notices are ignored, the police will ultimately force the "squatters" to leave the premises, by force if necessary. That sort of thing has been happening for centuries in this country. It is not "breaking news."

However, cops do not have legal authority to go into a home where "squatters" are staying, guns blazing and shoot everyone inside the home. And if you will recall, that's what this thread was originally about: some crazy legislator wants to make it legal for police or civilians to shoot people who are committing non-violent property crimes (things like squatting). One poster reponded that he would be justified shooting people if they tried to "steal" his home. I and others disagreed with that.

There is no national epidemic of "squatters" randomly breaking into innocent people's homes while they're away, changing locks, moving families in, forging documents stating they have some legal right to live there, assuming "ownership" of the property and then refusing to leave. That's a crime, not a civil dispute. It's called B&E, burglary, vandalism, trespassing and fraud. If it happens to you, call the cops.

The articles you cite are alarmist hysteria. It's the sort of thing local news outlets love hyping to create fear and outrage.

[oldsoftie]

66. Its nice you dont think its a problem & that cops will arrest them. You're WRONG

NO THEY WONT. The squatters will say the documents are legit; I'll say they're NOT. the cop wont know who's telling the truth & they'll say "Its a civil matter". As I said before this "law" they're trying to pass is ridiculous. ABSOLUTELY ridiculous. But every state needs to put something in place to deal with this problem, which IS big whether you & others want to believe it or not. Insurance products are even being sold to cover it; that doesnt happen if its "rare". it happened to ME in a smaller sized city. Fortunately I had other ways to deal with them.

[canuckledragger]

41. Does that happen to you a lot?

Maybe you should get a better lock!

[CTyankee]

64. We have ADT. We arm it at night and disarm/re-arm when we need to leave.

[sinkingfeeling]

3. Unbelievably disgusting and so anti-American, anti-Christian, anti-humane.

[Glaisne]

28. Such much for republicans being 'pro-life'*

*Not valid in all states, many restrictions apply. See your local far right MAGA extremist representative for more details.

[kimbutgar]

5. I bet he is an evangelical xtian!

Kind of ignores that Jesus says love thy neighbor as thyself. Doesn’t sound like he a person who loves those less fortunate than him!

[dchill]

10. That's EVILgelical.

[kimbutgar]

17. Oh good one !

I’m going to use that now instead of evangelical! Evilgelical!

[speak easy]

22. Catholic, like DeSantis.

[jaxexpat]

37. He's trying to make a name for himself with the fundies. He likes the prestige of the job.

It will be a real challenge to craft a change to existing law which can strengthen the enforcement of property rights by owners and remain constitutional. I doubt Jared will be up for it. Those fools can pass such a law, but it won't pass Ky Supreme court review or constitutional muster.

[Emile]

7. I read that with my mouth wide open

What lunacy!!! Hopefully, the democratic governor would be able to veto it from becoming law!

[Sneederbunk]

8. Up to no good?

Isn't that about half of the Congress?

[sop]

14. Public corruption should be a capital offense, too.

Punishable by being thrown from a 5th floor window. The Chinese put their corrupt public officials in front of a firing squad, the Saudis cut off their heads.

[Martin68]

9. Wow! Just, wow!

The right wing Trevor Martin Doctrine extended to the homeless and the poor.

[Initech]

11. Holy shit!!!! That's just striaght fucking psychotic!

There is no low for the MAGA cretins!

[LetMyPeopleVote]

13. K&R

[ancianita]

15. He's only been there a year & should be reported to his local Catholic church,

his bachelor of science degree revoked. An open threat in the form of a bill makes him a menace to society.

He was elected on November 8, 2022, in the 2022 Kentucky House of Representatives election against incumbent Democratic opponent Charles Miller. He assumed office in January 2023, only been there a year.

Bauman earned his B.S. degree in communication from the University of Louisville in 2008; had gone to St. Xavier High School. He is a parishioner at a Catholic church.

The man is morally depraved.

[Kid Berwyn]

16. And people wonder where NAZIs get their ideas.

Fuck Dixie.

[sop]

21. I'm surprised he didn't suggest gas ovens, or lynching.

[Kid Berwyn]

24. As a fellow Roman Catholic, I hope his priest shames him publicly and thoroughly.

Shame for Jared Bauman from all in his parish, Archdiocese, the Louisville community, the Commonwealth of Kentucky, and workplace. In fact, everyone in the United States of America should be ashamed at what this NAZI and a large number of his fellow representatives believe should be law.

[jaxexpat]

39. Funny you should use that term. His district is essentially bisected by what is known as "South Dixie Highway".

A section of combined US HWY's 60 and 31W, west to Amarillo or south to Nashville.

[louis-t]

18. With an exception for magats who smash and grab at the Capitol

on the orders of their orange god. Those people will be called heroes and will be immune from prosecution.

[niyad]

19. I truly hate these hate-filled, soul-dead, murder-loving, sadistic, monsters.

[KS Toronado]

20. Holy shit, stand your ground goes 2 more steps forward

Repugs are not the party of law & order, they're more like "Let's put our God given
2nd amendment rights to good use before our ammo gets old."

[AltairIV]

23. Again, not thinking this through!

".......if a defendant believes that someone is trying to dispossess them of their property...." Are they seriously legalizing the shooting of politicians?

[eppur_se_muova]

33. So if local govt tries to take your property by eminent domain for some sweetheart development deal ...

... you can just shoot them all ?

SWEEEEEEET !!

[Glaisne]

25. Conservative values

private property rights above all else.

[William769]

26. These people make me ill.

[Grins]

29. As if "Stand you ground" laws didn't kill enough people.

And the “Castle Doctrine.”

[IronLionZion]

30. Republicans always love to legalize murder

They want any excuse to kill

[multigraincracker]

31. I hope doesn't build a wall.

Might be our last hope.

[eppur_se_muova]

34. Reminds me of an infamous case down in Montgomery, back in the 50s or 60s ....

a white man with a shotgun shot and killed a black man. Asked why, he replied, "Well, he was running, so he must have done something".

That's ***EXACTLY*** the way Uglicans want it -- make no mistake.

[liberalgunwilltravel]

35. I wonder

I wonder if dipstick considered the possibility that someone might consider the action of the Kentucky House Republicans of ‘trying to dispose them of their property’ like the ‘property’ of their own health decisions.

[czarjak]

36. "Kill 'em all!"

Some are more serious than others. Open Season according to The Donald.

[Johonny]

38. The stay out of Kentucky Bill

[Tribetime]

40. How about executing politicians who take money from corporations

Or cheat on their wives

[Uncle Joe]

43. That Republican Party desperately needs to file for moral bankruptcy

Maybe a slow pay chapter 13 style, they can start out as dog catchers and work there way up to a more responsible and at least halfway conscientious position in government.

With great power comes great responsibility and they simply don't have any.

Thanks for the thread EarG.

[orangecrush]

49. Kick

[markbark]

50. Can a rider be added to the bill?

To wit:
The government should re-adopt the policy we had on Confederate battle flags from 1861 to 1865 and swastikas from 1941 to 1945. That is: shoot on sight

[Bluethroughu]

56. OMG, THESE PEOPLE ARE EVIL.

[Demovictory9]

57. Crazy

[samplegirl]

58. I read this

And just thought what next with these people!

[betsuni]

59. Nothing new. Not only Republicans going over to the dark side.

[ecstatic]

63. I just sent that image my brother

He rents out one of his properties and I sarcasticly told him that if trump gets back in, he'll be able to shoot and kill anyone who overstays their lease or Airbnb stay.

However, I know that he will read the rest of the graphic and I know that he understands that laws like that would essentially make lynching legal again. Millions more Trayvon Martins, shot dead by wannabe cops, except now there would be no fake trials where the prosecutor pretends to be defending the law.

I've been working on my brother for the past few months because a year or so ago he told me that he's done with the Democrats. I think I'm making a lot of progress with him though. A lot of what I've told him is sticking.

[Liberal In Texas]

65. The repub way: Property is more important than human life.*

*Unless of course, it's a fetus.