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Trump should have never come down that escalator and run for the Presidency in the first place. He was doing fine running his New York fake real estate and game show scam. He was a comical side show at best. Now he has brought holy hell down on his own head.
I doubt that he would have been over run with civil and criminal cases had he never run for the Presidency. He has brought all of this down on his own head. He is in danger of losing all of his money, his New York businesses, and he may land in jail. None of this would have happened if he had just shut up and stayed in New York. He put a target on his own back when he ran for the Presidency.
He may be destroyed by his own sociopathic vanity. This is why he is desperate to be re-elected. It may be the only way that he stays out of jail and retains any of his so-called fortune. Donnie should never stuck his neck out and ran for the Presidency in the first place. If he loses all of his money and lands in jail, he will regret it all. Dummy.
edhopper
(33,625 posts)And gain new power and wealth.
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Trump will never sit in the White House again. Because:
He will die or become completely medically unfit for office
He'll be in prison/ he'll be on trial and bleeding votes.
One of his own followers will wake up and realize trump doesn't really love him and put several rounds into him.
edhopper
(33,625 posts)right now he has a 50/50 chance
Silent3
(15,282 posts)It's definitely over-the-top wishful thinking to speak as if Trump has already lost. We're far from out of the woods at this point.
edhopper
(33,625 posts)the popular vote. The problem is he can win enough States.
PatrickforB
(14,593 posts)Hardly anybody.
Plus, the GOP has the abortion millstone, and I'll bet women turn out big in the states that have draconian bans. I mean, if just TX flips blue it will be a big deal, and this Abbott seems like a total dirtbag.
The E Jean Carroll thing was huge, too, because women voters all over the country heard about how she got awarded $83 million. That wouldn't have happened if there had been any doubt about the rape.
And of course, the criminal proceedings are ramping up.
I think Trumpy is toast.
For what it is worth, I predict the following:
1. Trumpy will walk away with the GOP nomination and become the official nominee in July.
2. During the campaign season, I believe he will have a major health event because honestly, Ed, he looks like shit.
3. This will take him out of the race, and the GOP will have to scramble to put in an emergency candidate.
4. All the while, Biden and the downticket Dems will be pounding on abortion, healthcare, climate and so on.
5. Most Indy's, all Dems and a significant number of Republicans will vote for Biden.
6. In the meantime, the split to No Labels will hurt the Repubs more than it does us.
7. Dems will take back the House, keep the Senate and Biden will go to the White House for a second term.
I also think during the lead up to the general election, Trumpy's dementia and poor health will be more heavily covered.
Let's hope so, eh?
liberal N proud
(60,346 posts)I fear he will destroy democracy
edhopper
(33,625 posts)far fetched.
bucolic_frolic
(43,311 posts)He has EARNED every bit of the problems he's going through and then quite a lot more.
OAITW r.2.0
(24,641 posts)2024 ain't 2016.
Walleye
(31,062 posts)captain queeg
(10,252 posts)(More millions than now) and wouldn't be in all the legal jepordises he is now.
Walleye
(31,062 posts)Walleye
(31,062 posts)central scrutinizer
(11,662 posts)He wasted two months in early 2020 that saw the US skyrocket to lead the world in cases and deaths. Had he listened to Fauci and instituted mask mandates and contact tracing, the stock market and the economy may not have cratered and he wouldnt have been routed in the election.
Walleye
(31,062 posts)And of course to him his political interests are his financial interests. And he was too stupid to do anything else. He saw the stock market start to go down and panicked
keithbvadu2
(36,937 posts)TwilightZone
(25,485 posts)It was, as it always is with Trump, all about money.
peggysue2
(10,842 posts)It was all about making more money and expanding the enterprise. Because that's all Donald Trump really cared about (besides his own ego): Money.
The one time he told the truth was early on confessing that through his entire life he'd been 'greedy, greedy, greedy.'
Of course, even then he had to turn it on a lie by insisting that now 'he wanted to be 'greedy for America,' as if he wanted to be greedy in the service of the average Joe and Jane.
Just another con-job.
Aviation Pro
(12,188 posts)The first was attending the Correspondent's dinner where he was sliced and diced by a real President.
surfered
(540 posts).to a more deserving person.
Demobrat
(8,994 posts)He could have conceded graciously, sat back and eaten cheeseburgers for four years, and run again without the distractions of the criminal trials.
dchill
(38,547 posts)agingdem
(7,861 posts)but inciting an insurrection and the recorded call to Georgia's Secretary of State brought the depth of his in-office criminality into focus...
rubbersole
(6,732 posts)His 'wealth' was always somebody else's/fake but it gave this psycho a way to fame and delusional legal invincibility. It's still working.
JoseBalow
(2,480 posts)AverageOldGuy
(1,544 posts)True. If Trump had never been President, he would be living his pre-2016 life . . . But now . . .
Will everyone who is heartbroken for Trump please raise your hand .
A show of hands? Anyone?
In the back?
Anyone?
Bueller?
Bueller?
Anyone??
czarjak
(11,296 posts)NJCher
(35,748 posts)But there is a sizable contingent of posters here who think he will fool all of the people all of the time. You see that in comments like "they won't do anything to him." "He's always gotten away with it," etc.
EmmaLee E
(171 posts)too much of the time.
czarjak
(11,296 posts)Unfortunately.
Martin68
(22,892 posts)the political process in a democracy, he soon discovered that he had a great deal of power. He had confidants who suggested ways to take advantage of his position and the system, and he ended up wanting to stay on power in spite of his total incompetency as POTUS. Now he only sees the presidency as an opportunity to escape accountability and criminal conviction, and a means to take revenge on anyone who has opposed or displeased him.
CitizenZero
(538 posts)I agree entirely with your comment. Right on.
multigraincracker
(32,727 posts)once said, along with His basket of deplorables..
Mr.Bill
(24,330 posts)run for president without having a clue what the job was all about.
BaronChocula
(1,599 posts)If he was never president*, Tish James may have never considered the New York charges. If he never ran for president*, there would be no campaign finance violations. If he was never president* there would be no federal indictments for stealing classified documents and defrauding the U.S. If he was never president* there would be no RICO Georgia case.
CitizenZero
(538 posts)I agree entirely.
DemocraticPatriot
(4,428 posts)YES, he miscalculated, drawing so much attention to himself---
but that IS the one thing at which he excels...
He was successful in THAT thing....
as opposed to the thing that he is least successful with,
"thinking ahead and considering the consequences!"
LOL
DemocraticPatriot
(4,428 posts)Mr.Bee
(186 posts)You had to open up your mouth
You had to be a big shot, didn't you
All your friends were so knocked out
You had to have the last word, last night
You know what everything's about
You had to have a white hot spotlight
You had to be a big shot last night
Now anytime I hear that song I will think of Drumpf
dalton99a
(81,599 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,453 posts)They truly think they are the smartest, most handsome, best people in the world.
They can be easily manipulated with flattery. Hubris is their downfall.
malaise
(269,187 posts)Rec
pansypoo53219
(20,999 posts)Attilatheblond
(2,221 posts)People who have big apartments in Moscow.
True Blue American
(17,989 posts)Ever since he was elected.
panfluteman
(2,067 posts)Trump looked at the GOP and saw that it was a political party that was ripe for a takeover.
Trump looked at all the income inequality and the frustrated American worker and saw that he could exploit that situation for his own political gain.
Trump looked at the White House and saw that it could be turned into his own personal mafia syndicate.
Trump took the oath of office figuring he could be as unfaithful to that oath as he had been in his marriage vows to Melania.
What Trump didn't see, and didn't figure out, was that the office of president karmically demanded that he sincerely serve his country, and not just himself, to come out on top and remain unscathed.
The karmic lesson that Trump had to learn from this whole affair ( and for Trump it was actually like a promiscuous, illicit affair with the presidency) was that you gotta give to get, and that the quality of the intentions that you put into the whole enterprise will come back to haunt you if you don't put your absolute best into it. And Trump had to learn this the hard way, in the school of hard knocks, as they say...
republianmushroom
(13,704 posts)Totally agree.
Captain Zero
(6,826 posts)THE ONE term to be president,
right when Jeffery was jailed and disappeared.
BradBo
(531 posts)if he kept his mouth shut about COVID, let Fauci do all the talking, he would have slide easily into another term and not Biden. To me, that was the strategic mistake he made, Im sure most his advisers were warning him. I dont think he ever really thought he would be elected in 2016.
louis-t
(23,297 posts)All he had to do was say "Listen, we have a little problem. We're going to have to mask up and stay apart for a little while until we come up with a vaccine." But he made it all about himself. He thought ignoring it and pretending it would just go away would insulate him. He thought he was going to be blamed if he admitted there was a problem. Narcissism ruled his behavior. The same with the first Carroll verdict. If he had just shut his mouth, he could have paid her and swept it under the rug. But he has no self control. The worst person you could possibly put in any kind of government position. He puts himself over the country every time.
Aristus
(66,467 posts)ticking a box.
Stop fucking doing that, assholes. The Presidency is about public service, not publicity for your scam businesses.
homegirl
(1,434 posts)Putin made him do it!
WinstonSmith4740
(3,059 posts)Whoever it was said:
"Oh, Donny, Donny, Donny. You could have spent the rest of your life playing golf, laundering money for the Russians, and fucking porn starts, but no! You had to run for president because the black guy pissed you off at the correspondent's dinner."
Truer words were never spoken, and he's now reaping the whirlwind. To which all I can say is
ShazzieB
(16,541 posts)unblock
(52,332 posts)I think donnie ran for president out of fear, not greed.
I think Donnie's empire was collapsing and the pressure was on. I think if Donnie's empire of grift was continuing to function, he would have left well enough alone. But most banks had shut him out, and while there's always a d-string supplier to be found, really the whole business community knew not to work with him. Certainly lawyers knew that.
I'll bet his Russian backers made him do it. They wanted a payoff for funding him and it wasn't cash they were looking for, and he likely wasn't generating enough cash anyway.
I think the idea about him doing it because he was annoyed by a joke Obama made is a story that lives on because it serves everyone. For Donnie, it deflects blame. See, it's Obama's fault, he's not a Russian plant. He needed an excuse to run given he had zero experience.
If Donnie was a true billionaire with a real empire, he would have gotten revenge by giving millions to Obama's opponents.
The idea that everything was going swimmingly in Donnie's world and suddenly one joke makes him risk everything to run for president just doesn't add up. I think it was desperation. I think his crimes and ineptness were catching up with him and he needed a Hail Mary.
Jrose
(844 posts)Is going to be burned by the spotlight!
mwb970
(11,367 posts)He is in the biggest goldfish bowl in the world, and he thinks he's invisible.
Botany
(70,589 posts)and that was when he Vlad got the pee pee tape of him. Vlad had been working Trump for years
and no doubt he had lots of other kompromat on him Trump too besides the pee pee stuff. Pay
offs, bribes, money laundering, maybe some Jeffery Epstein stuff, drug use, and videos of Melania
spanking him as she wore leathers and cowboy hat yelling @ him to, call me boss lady as he
pleasured himself looking @ pictures of Ivanka.
In 2013 Trump came back from Russia and copyrighted make America great again.
ZonkerHarris
(24,259 posts)for the rest of American time.
ecstatic
(32,733 posts)The problem is, his attempt to recover what he lost is going to get the rest of us killed.
He almost succeeded first term.
His failures during the covid outbreak are not talked about enough. I remember in late February 2020, I had a 2 week Mediterranean cruise booked, starting 2/29/20. Prior to departure date, I was concerned about the reports of covid that were popping up. I had been in that situation once before in 2009 when the swine flu was running rampant. The difference is, President Obama and his team made the decision early on to take that flu seriously and, as a result, my booked Cruise was delayed and I didn't have to worry about losing my money.
Fast forward to 2020, things were handled a lot differently. Despite covid being on the march, trump's team did absolutely nothing. By not weighing in on the situation, MSC Cruise lines and the other cruise lines decided to stay quiet too. After all, they didn't want to lose any money.
So we had to decide whether we were going to lose tens of thousands of dollars or potentially risk being caught up in an international pandemic.
That failure to lead definitely contributed to covid becoming a worldwide pandemic and to the death toll.