Amelia Earhart's long-lost plane possibly detected by sonar 16,000 feet underwater, exploration team claims

[Kennah]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/amelia-earhart-plane-possibly-detected-sonar-underwater-deep-sea-vision/

Amelia Earhart's disappearance over the central Pacific Ocean 87 years ago remains one of the greatest mysteries in aviation history. Countless theories about her fate have emerged in the decades since, but now a deep-sea exploration team searching for the wreckage of her small plane has provided another potential clue.

Deep Sea Vision, a Charleston, South Carolina-based team, said this week that it had captured a sonar image in the Pacific Ocean that "appears to be Earhart's Lockheed 10-E Electra" aircraft.

The company, which says it scanned over 5,200 square miles of the ocean floor starting in September, posted sonar images on social media that appear to show a plane-shaped object resting at the bottom of the sea. The 16-member team, which used a state-of-the-art underwater drone during the search, also released video of the expedition.

Tony Romeo, a pilot and former U.S. Air Force intelligence officer, told the Wall Street Journal that he funded the $11 million search by selling off his commercial real estate properties.

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[Jilly_in_VA]

1. It's always somewhere

I've read more theories on this than I care to count. It's ridiculous.

[moonshinegnomie]

45. this is an image of what they found

16000 feet below the surface and 100 miles from her destination
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[RussellCattle]

52. Looks like a "swept wing aircraft" to this admittedly untrained observer. Not what she was flying.

[global1]

2. I See A Documentary Film Being Made Of This Find - Coming To The History Channel....nt

[marble falls]

6. It'll last over eight years while the searchers get closer than ever each week.

[PJMcK]

17. History Channel?

It’ll be aliens, I tell ya!

[tanyev]

50. The once magnificent History Channel, now the Pseudo-History Channel.

Or maybe Sensationalist History Channel.

In the same bin as the remnants of Bravo and A&E.

[Model35mech]

3. My computer tells me the Pacific is only about 11,00 feet deep.

[sarisataka]

5. Your computer needs updating

The Pacific has an average depth of 13,000 ft a mean depth of 14,000 ft but is over 36,000 ft at its deepest

[lastlib]

8. The Mariana Trench is 36,000 feet below surface.

Google Challenger Deep.

[Model35mech]

10. WAS THE SONAR TARGET FOUND IN THE MARIANA TRENCH?

[canetoad]

30. No it wasn't

I read an article coupla days ago. They were being very coy about the precise location but said it was within a 100 km circle of Nikumaroro.

[Chainfire]

9. It averages about 14,000 feet deep, but the deepest spot is almost 37,000 feet.

So, no matter where in the Pacific you are, you are no more than seven miles from land.

[Model35mech]

11. wELL, i ASKED AND THE REPLY i GOT WAS 11k

GO AHEAD JUMP IN MY SHIT.

[Torchlight]

12. Sounds really serious.

Best of luck!

[Torchlight]

15. Of course.

Most certainly.

[ms liberty]

19. Maybe it was a door buzzard.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

23. Nobody is jumping in your shit,

you were just being corrected, that's all.

[orangecrush]

42. I hate jumping in people's shit

I get enough of that from the dogs when cleaning the yard

[MarineCombatEngineer]

43. LOL.

[intheflow]

26. No biggie. Just check your source next time.

Only takes a second more to visit the Wikipedia page to confirm basic stuff like this. If you prefer, you can use the free online version of the Encyclopedia Britannica. I’m a librarian, these are resources I use myself on a regular basis.

http://britannica.com/

[Bernardo de La Paz]

39. And that was so important you had to shout it

Relax.

[marble falls]

13. Check again ...

During surveys carried out between 1997 and 2001, a spot was found along the Mariana Trench that had a depth similar to the Challenger Deep, possibly even deeper. It was discovered while scientists from the Hawaii Institute of Geophysics and Planetology were completing a survey around Guam; they used a sonar mapping system towed behind the research ship to conduct the survey. This new spot was named the HMRG (Hawaii Mapping Research Group) Deep, after the group of scientists who discovered it.[17]

On 1 June 2009, mapping aboard the RV Kilo Moana (mothership of the Nereus vehicle), indicated a spot with a depth of 10,971 m (35,994 ft; 5,999 fathoms). The sonar mapping of the Challenger Deep was possible by its Simrad EM120 sonar multibeam bathymetry system for deep water. The sonar system uses phase and amplitude bottom detection, with an accuracy of better than 0.2% of water depth across the entire swath (implying that the depth figure is accurate to ± 22 metres (72 ft; 12 fathoms)).[18][19]

In 2011, it was announced at the American Geophysical Union Fall Meeting that a US Navy hydrographic ship equipped with a multibeam echosounder conducted a survey which mapped the entire trench to 100 m (330 ft; 55 fathoms) resolution.[2] The mapping revealed the existence of four rocky outcrops thought to be former seamounts.[20]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariana_Trench

[brooklynite]

25. This isn't really the point...

The point is that oceans don't have "a depth". They're like land with mountains, valleys, plains, etc. Whatever the AVERAGE depth is, there'll be places that are deeper or more shallow.

https://oeab.noaa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/Documents/OER_DepthComparisonMapsEEZ_May2020.pdf

[Chainfire]

4. I wonder what is the total number of airplanes resting on the floor of Pacific?

Japan lost somewher around 35,000 planes in WWII, most of them over water.

I am pretty sure that is her plane though, if you look closely, you can see a copy of her driver's licence laying in the wreckage.

[sarisataka]

16. Given the location

And superficial resemblances they may have found a C-47 or G4M 'Betty'. That's just off the top of my head.

However, just about every mystery is solved eventually. Maybe it is her plane. It will take a visual inspection to determine.

[Bucky]

31. They should've had Sully Sullenberger on their side.

He knew enough to at least lose his plane on the TOP of the water. Much easier to find and recover

[Probatim]

35. She had DB Cooper as her co-pilot - at least that's what I read on Xitter.

[Kennah]

59. And in a major city

[struggle4progress]

7. Wouldn't it just corrode away in the saltwater after all these years?

[PJMcK]

18. Well, the Titanic is still down there

At extreme depths and pressures, chemical reactions don’t necessarily parallel those at sea level.

There’s probably lots of stuff on the bottoms of the seas.

[struggle4progress]

22. The Titanic is certainly corroding

https://th-thumbnailer.cdn-si-edu.com/bRNXVEBh2JKBGciKbm5pMdDR6Zo=/800x600/

An all-metal aircraft will be much thinner material

Her plane was largely aluminum covered, and aluminum might be expected to react with various seawater ions

[Chainfire]

21. I don't think so, the plane is made mostly of aluminum, and at those depths, there is little oxygen and it is very cold.

Cold as in below zero C. I wouldn't be at all surprised if a plane survived the conditions. I do doubt that she could have held her breath that long, so rescue is probably not going to happen.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

24. Ahh yes,

a little humor.
I love it.

[struggle4progress]

60. "Exposed, unfinished aluminum reacts strongly with chloride ions. Within weeks, the chemistry

overwhelms the natural protective oxide layer and results in visible pitting"

https://linetec.com/2022/09/29/how-does-salt-spray-affect-finished-aluminum-6-considerations-for-finishes-in-coastal-conditions/#:~:text=Exposed%2C%20unfinished%20aluminum%20reacts%20strongly,failure%20of%20a%20building%20envelope.

[Chainfire]

61. Here is a photo of a plane that has been underwater for nearly 80 years.

[Bucky]

33. Human bones will corrode away. Metal lasts significantly longer

So do shoes.

[johnp3907]

55. Maybe.

There’s an interesting picture here of a Bomber that sank in WWII:

https://briandunning.substack.com/p/i-remain-very-guarded-about-the-new?utm_campaign=post

[ShadesOfBlue]

20. This is cool.

I hope it turns out to be legit.

[Johonny]

27. I hope she's okay

[Bucky]

34. The Titanic would have never sunk if Trump had been president. He knows how to make a deal with icebergs

This is just more proof that Taft was a RINO in the pocket of the Deep State!!

[Raine]

28. Seems like every couple of years they find her plane. 🤔🙄 nt

[brewens]

29. There are more than a few planes probably down in that area. My dad was lucky to have survived the war. He was in a car

wreck in training and missed deployment of VB-104. "The Buccaneers of Hary Sears". The crew he was with was lost with all hands on their way to Guadalcanal. Then he got in a fight with the pilot of his next crew and was transferred to another crew. Those guys were lost with all hands on patrol. They flew PB4Ys. The Navy designation of the B-24 they used for long range recon.

[deurbano]

38. Wow! He WAS lucky!

[LeftInTX]

49. You are right!

[canetoad]

32. If anyone's interested

TIGHAR (The International Group for Historic Aircraft Recovery ) have a special interest in Earhart and Noonan's fate and have a website. Lots of interesting stuff here - they have mounted a few expeditions to Nikumaroro - all documented on their site.

https://tighar.org/Projects/Earhart/AEdescr.html

[CSTeacher]

41. According to TIGHAR...

... no way it's hers. Shape is wrong, and the Electra was too ruggedly built for the wings to sweep back in a crash like the sonar image shows.

I've been following TIGHAR for a number of years. Their evidence is pretty overwhelming, but they've found no smoking-gun that absolutely proves their hypothesis. I've always thought if I could just win one of those 1.5 Billion Powerball drawings, I'd fund another trip to Nikumaroro to find that airplane. On the condition I get to go along, of course!

[canetoad]

54. I've done a very quick search

And can't find on TIGHAR any reference to Tony Romeo's search. Can you give me a clue where it's mentioned?

TIA

[CSTeacher]

62. TIGHAR Statement

Sorry I'm so long replying. I'm new to this and had a hard time getting back to this thread!

I don't think it's on TIGHAR's website. I follow them on FB and they posted a statement there.

[canetoad]

63. No worries!

Here's a quick method:
"Posts" will light up yellow when you have a reply to one of your posts
Click the yellow tab, and to the left of your post, there is a "Replies" column, the number in which is clickable
Click on the number and it will reveal a link to the reply to your post.

I won't be seeing their statement if it's on FB but I'd put a lot of credence on their response. Thank you.

[hauckeye]

36. I wonder if they could use this technology to find MH370

[edbermac]

37. Sure looks like it to me

[WestMichRad]

44. Well that certainly nails it!

The resolution was better in my dream, though.

[petronius]

56. And the round object in the lower left is clearly the UFO they collided with before crashing

[twodogsbarking]

40. I am not sure I care at this point.

[former9thward]

46. I am always amazed at how incurious American presidents are.

Presidents have tens of billions of dollars in discretionary funds available to them. And anything can be justified in the name of national security. The technology and infrastructure to solve this mystery has been available for several decades. Yet no president has bothered to do it. This is just one mystery of many. Yet it is left to private investigators to try and fund these things.

[WarGamer]

47. I've heard there's this super high tech carbon fiber submersible that can go retrieve it...

Let me go google the name...

(too soon??)

[Brother Buzz]

48. The Glomar Explorer retrieved the K-129, a soviet nuclear submarine from 16,000 feet

Retrieving an airplane a thousand feet deeper would be easy peasy. That is, if they didn't scrap the Glomar Explorer

[kskiska]

51. I'll bet there's already a waiting list of rich folks

wanting to view the remains.

[cbabe]

53. Amelia Earhart's Last Flight/Anne Price & Marilyn Maltzer

https://m.

%5D

[Jacson6]

57. Why in the world would they say this unless...

they are trying to raise money to pay salaries and bonus'.

[Takket]

58. yeah let me know when they send a sub down there and get an actual picture.......

because that little scan is a starting point, not an ending point