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NNadir

(33,629 posts)
Wed Jan 31, 2024, 11:00 PM Jan 2024

So I went to a live interview with Leon Panetta last night discussing National Security.

It's described here: Leon Panetta at Compelling Perspectives

He discussed the national - and international - security issues associated with government by crisis rather than government by leadership.

It was an impressive conversation between him and Lehigh University's President, Joseph Helble.

It was, quite interesting, quite illuminating from a historical perspective by a player in an age when the Republican Party was not constituted by weakling cult worshipping reactionary revolutionaries devoid of any principles, even unfortunate principles.

Helble was trying to close of the event, pretty much held to a little over a single hour, when Panetta stopped him to tell a joke.

The joke was this:

A Catholic Priest and a Rabbi meet at an event and make friends with one another, and decide in order to learn more about each other's religion they would attend ordinary events with one another. They go to a boxing match, where before the first round, one of the boxers makes the sign of the cross over his chest. The Rabbi asks the Priest, "What does that mean?"

The Priest answers, "Not a damn thing unless he knows how to fight."

Panetta is of a time when the United States was interested in world leadership, which he argued was essential, although he more or less conceded in response to a student's question concerning US Imperialism, that, given the insularity of Washington, not always for good, but generally well intentioned.

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NNadir

(33,629 posts)
4. For what it's worth his prodigious "street smarts" have translated into...
Thu Feb 1, 2024, 08:57 AM
Feb 2024

..."world smarts." Although it was never mentioned explicitly, the odiferous stench of Trumpism subsumed the room, and what he was saying had the aura of a very dire warning about the future, so much so that the first audience question, from a student was, to paraphrase, " Is there any hope?"

The audience laughed but it was a nervous laugh, and he answered graciously but more or less insisted that if hope existed, in a democracy, the hope lies within the people. In insane times, I'm not sure, personally, that this statement is encouraging.

dutch777

(3,078 posts)
5. Hard to be honest and encouraging right now. Oh, how nice to hear from a voice of reason though.
Thu Feb 1, 2024, 11:53 AM
Feb 2024

It is encouraging to me that students are paying attention and understand to some degree all that is at stake in current politics. You mentioned the President of Lehigh University. Was this event at Lehigh? Thank you for sharing this info.

NNadir

(33,629 posts)
8. Yes, it was in the Zoellner auditorium at Lehigh.
Thu Feb 1, 2024, 12:27 PM
Feb 2024

The tickets were sold out and not just because the event was free.

NNadir

(33,629 posts)
7. To be clear i never thought about him much, but...
Thu Feb 1, 2024, 12:25 PM
Feb 2024

...having heard him in conversation, I have to agree.

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