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Celerity

(44,479 posts)
Fri Feb 9, 2024, 11:36 PM Feb 2024

Atlantic Ocean circulation nearing 'devastating' tipping point, study finds



Collapse in system of currents that helps regulate global climate would be at such speed that adaptation would be impossible

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/feb/09/atlantic-ocean-circulation-nearing-devastating-tipping-point-study-finds


Sea levels in the Atlantic would rise by a metre in some regions and temperatures around the world would fluctuate far more erratically. Photograph: Henrik Egede-Lassen/Zoomedia/PA

The circulation of the Atlantic Ocean is heading towards a tipping point that is “bad news for the climate system and humanity”, a study has found. The scientists behind the research said they were shocked at the forecast speed of collapse once the point is reached, although they said it was not yet possible to predict how soon that would happen. Using computer models and past data, the researchers developed an early warning indicator for the breakdown of the Atlantic meridional overturning circulation (Amoc), a vast system of ocean currents that is a key component in global climate regulation. They found Amoc is already on track towards an abrupt shift, which has not happened for more than 10,000 years and would have dire implications for large parts of the world.

Amoc, which encompasses part of the Gulf Stream and other powerful currents, is a marine conveyer belt that carries heat, carbon and nutrients from the tropics towards the Arctic Circle, where it cools and sinks into the deep ocean. This churning helps to distribute energy around the Earth and modulates the impact of human-caused global heating. But the system is being eroded by the faster-than-expected melt-off of Greenland’s glaciers and Arctic ice sheets, which pours freshwater into the sea and obstructs the sinking of saltier, warmer water from the south. Amoc has declined 15% since 1950 and is in its weakest state in more than a millennium, according to previous research that prompted speculation about an approaching collapse.

Until now there has been no consensus about how severe this will be. One study last year, based on changes in sea surface temperatures, suggested the tipping point could happen between 2025 and 2095. However, the UK Met Office said large, rapid changes in Amoc were “very unlikely” in the 21st century. The new paper, published in Science Advances, has broken new ground by looking for warning signs in the salinity levels at the southern extent of the Atlantic Ocean between Cape Town and Buenos Aires. Simulating changes over a period of 2,000 years on computer models of the global climate, it found a slow decline can lead to a sudden collapse over less than 100 years, with calamitous consequences.



The paper said the results provided a “clear answer” about whether such an abrupt shift was possible: “This is bad news for the climate system and humanity as up till now one could think that Amoc tipping was only a theoretical concept and tipping would disappear as soon as the full climate system, with all its additional feedbacks, was considered.” It also mapped some of the consequences of Amoc collapse. Sea levels in the Atlantic would rise by a metre in some regions, inundating many coastal cities. The wet and dry seasons in the Amazon would flip, potentially pushing the already weakened rainforest past its own tipping point. Temperatures around the world would fluctuate far more erratically. The southern hemisphere would become warmer. Europe would cool dramatically and have less rainfall. While this might sound appealing compared with the current heating trend, the changes would hit 10 times faster than now, making adaptation almost impossible.

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Atlantic Ocean circulation nearing 'devastating' tipping point, study finds (Original Post) Celerity Feb 2024 OP
Also known as thermohaline circulation. LastDemocratInSC Feb 2024 #1
Thom Hartmann Johnny2X2X Feb 2024 #2
I'm so glad that I saw this right before bed. 🌑 1WorldHope Feb 2024 #3
"The scientists behind the research said they were shocked at the forecast speed of collapse..." redqueen Feb 2024 #4
perhaps this Celerity Feb 2024 #5
I'm thinking something with more instruments redqueen Feb 2024 #6
... Celerity Feb 2024 #7
Those are pretty doggone good. :) limbicnuminousity Feb 2024 #8
I read and sent this out earlier. Duppers Feb 2024 #9
yw! Celerity Feb 2024 #12
i figured this was coming. scotland get ready. pansypoo53219 Feb 2024 #10
A metre of sea level rise is over 39 inches wishstar Feb 2024 #11
We can either protect the wealthy or the planet, it is a binary choice and it is up to us. Chainfire Feb 2024 #13

redqueen

(115,113 posts)
4. "The scientists behind the research said they were shocked at the forecast speed of collapse..."
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 12:40 AM
Feb 2024

They just continue to be shocked. Again and again and again and again.

Wondering what a 'scientists studying climate change' statue would look like

limbicnuminousity

(1,409 posts)
8. Those are pretty doggone good. :)
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 01:45 AM
Feb 2024

But guys, c'mon. Cut the scientists a break. They've been warning of problems for decades but have no agency to effect change. I think they're expressing surprise that the next mass extinction event will occur within two generations instead of three.

Save your ire for Exxon.

Duppers

(28,151 posts)
9. I read and sent this out earlier.
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 02:09 AM
Feb 2024

Humans are and will continue to be, I fear, in denial.

We are lemmings.

Thank you for posting, Celerity!



wishstar

(5,282 posts)
11. A metre of sea level rise is over 39 inches
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 03:05 AM
Feb 2024

Much more than the rise of about a foot already predicted by 2100 for East Coast even without a Gulf Stream collapse.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
13. We can either protect the wealthy or the planet, it is a binary choice and it is up to us.
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 10:45 AM
Feb 2024

So far we have sat back and hoped that things would change for the better... It hasn't worked.

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