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redqueen

(115,113 posts)
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 09:15 AM Feb 2024

How much longer do we have to wait?


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How was Biden's son investigated but Ivanka, Jared, and the Jan 6 plotters are still just ignored?

EXCLUSIVE: Jan. 6 Protest Organizers Say They Participated in ‘Dozens’ of Planning Meetings With Members of Congress and White House Staff
Two sources are communicating with House investigators and detailed a stunning series of allegations to Rolling Stone, including a promise of a “blanket pardon” from the Oval Office

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/exclusive-jan-6-organizers-met-congress-white-house-1245289/
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How much longer do we have to wait? (Original Post) redqueen Feb 2024 OP
January 20, 2025 gab13by13 Feb 2024 #1
And the pipe bomb person Beachnutt Feb 2024 #2
There's a half a million waiting for anyone who can help find him redqueen Feb 2024 #3
....or her.... Hope22 Feb 2024 #11
Yeah, it looks to me Farmer-Rick Feb 2024 #18
Me too! Hope22 Feb 2024 #19
Just going by the numbers, it's almost certainly a male redqueen Feb 2024 #20
As long as he, she, they, them finds it's way to a jail cell I'm good! Hope22 Feb 2024 #24
I'll admit I just went with the odds redqueen Feb 2024 #26
That is really interesting karin_sj Feb 2024 #33
What numbers? Irish_Dem Feb 2024 #27
The sex most often responsible for violent crime (nt) redqueen Feb 2024 #28
We will be waiting till he's out of office, Garland has no interest in holding any republican accountable. Autumn Feb 2024 #4
Might look "Partisan"... Bettie Feb 2024 #5
Of course he doesn't mind that to people who actually pay attention he looks extremely partisan. Autumn Feb 2024 #6
Apparently, being Partisan Bettie Feb 2024 #8
Right there with you, Bettie Firestorm49 Feb 2024 #10
Bettie - you totally nailed it about Garland and DU! lark Feb 2024 #13
Federalist Society gab13by13 Feb 2024 #30
All those right wing organizations Bettie Feb 2024 #31
Apparently, it's not just Garland. usaf-vet Feb 2024 #17
Eric Holder, Loretta Lynch, Michael Mukasey? karin_sj Feb 2024 #34
Exactly! Why is he still in the job? ananda Feb 2024 #7
Because Joseph Biden, President of the United States, wants him there. onenote Feb 2024 #9
Joe, please, please replace him at the start of your next term. lark Feb 2024 #12
I hope the President replaces him sooner than that Farmer-Rick Feb 2024 #22
I am concerned about this too, Garland with help Trump even more. Irish_Dem Feb 2024 #29
K&R onecaliberal Feb 2024 #14
Our institutions have been under attack for decades. Bluethroughu Feb 2024 #15
Does he get any points for appointing Jack Smith? New Haven Feb 2024 #16
Yes. 950 have been prosecuted, yet not one political conspirator! Firestorm49 Feb 2024 #21
except for the sedition charges for riot leaders bigtree Feb 2024 #35
Personally no, I wouldn't give him any points redqueen Feb 2024 #23
Oh lordy, brings back memories, gab13by13 Feb 2024 #32
Ha, redqueen Feb 2024 #38
Interesting. llmart Feb 2024 #25
Capitol Breach Cases - United States Department of Justice bigtree Feb 2024 #36
Thank you! llmart Feb 2024 #40
Seems like a fair question. I'm guessing 11 months. republianmushroom Feb 2024 #37
This is a perfect example of how insanely irrational Garland bashing has become. Beastly Boy Feb 2024 #39

gab13by13

(21,889 posts)
1. January 20, 2025
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 09:20 AM
Feb 2024

Joe can replace Garland with Sally Yates, if she wants it.

Remember, Trump fired Sally because she would not enforce his Muslim ban. She has guts, in today's climate that is the #1 quality needed to be Attorney general.

Too late to fire Garland now. Would be different if he resigned.

Hope22

(1,982 posts)
24. As long as he, she, they, them finds it's way to a jail cell I'm good!
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 12:14 PM
Feb 2024

It is unbelievable that these are the only images of this person. The cameras in DC must be shit. I feel like the person walks like a female but heaven knows I’ve been wrong before. It would make my day if they found the person responsible. I would be soooo happy!

redqueen

(115,113 posts)
26. I'll admit I just went with the odds
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 12:19 PM
Feb 2024

After I saw your reply I checked and shared the pic

I can't tell much from the video below - if there are others I haven't seen them.

I know a lot of people complain about having CCTV everywhere but I don't have a problem with it

karin_sj

(829 posts)
33. That is really interesting
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 12:57 PM
Feb 2024

This person did a lot of backtracking and doubling back, going past a location and then coming back to it. I never knew about that. I'm really surprised the authorities were never able to track the person down. It sure seems to be a woman to me. Thanks for posting this.

Autumn

(45,136 posts)
4. We will be waiting till he's out of office, Garland has no interest in holding any republican accountable.
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 09:53 AM
Feb 2024

Bettie

(16,199 posts)
5. Might look "Partisan"...
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 10:05 AM
Feb 2024

Last edited Wed Feb 14, 2024, 12:41 PM - Edit history (1)

can't have that. He might not get invited to the next Heritage Foundation Federalist Society function.

Edited because all those right wing organizations run together in my brain....oops. Corrected now.

Autumn

(45,136 posts)
6. Of course he doesn't mind that to people who actually pay attention he looks extremely partisan.
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 10:06 AM
Feb 2024

Bettie

(16,199 posts)
8. Apparently, being Partisan
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 10:18 AM
Feb 2024

toward Republicans is fine....just fine. Because....um, reasons.

Even some balance would be nice.

Maybe, I don't know, he could have told Hur to stick to the facts and leave his amateur medical opinions out of the report!

See, as frustrated as I get here some days, without DU, I'd be ranting to myself instead of to you guys! I feel less crazy knowing that there are others who understand.

lark

(23,301 posts)
13. Bettie - you totally nailed it about Garland and DU!
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 11:22 AM
Feb 2024

I was just lurking for a few months and really missed the interaction so tried again today and it worked! I'm back up with my home away from home - DU!

usaf-vet

(6,328 posts)
17. Apparently, it's not just Garland.
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 11:46 AM
Feb 2024

And these:
Garland, Merrick B. 2021 to Present
Barr, William Pelham. 2019 to 2020.
Sessions, Jeff. 2017 to 2018.
Lynch, Loretta E. 2015 to 2017. ...
Holder, Eric H. Jr. ...
Mukasey, Michael B. 2007 to 2009. ...
Gonzales, Alberto R. 2005 to 2007. ...
Ashcroft, John David. 2001 to 2005.

By my counting, six have failed to do their prescribed duties without letting politics enter into their decisions.

lark

(23,301 posts)
12. Joe, please, please replace him at the start of your next term.
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 11:19 AM
Feb 2024

Like day 1, he goes and Sally Yates is appointed!! Such a win/win for American justice. Garland will be responsible if tsf is able to steal the election because he hasn;t been convicted. Garland sat and dithered and did nothing and tried to let tsf escape justice because he was too timid to do this actual job and protect us. Biden has got to see this and get rid of Garland if the terrorist doesnt steal the country first.

Farmer-Rick

(10,330 posts)
22. I hope the President replaces him sooner than that
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 12:07 PM
Feb 2024

I really fear Garland will pull a Comey. I fear he will put out a letter or a rigged investigation or something even more offensive to Biden. But this time Garland would do it just 11 days before the election.

Garland seems to me to be one of those people who thinks they are so honest and impartial. And for the most part people like him are pretty reliable and honest. Except for when they are not. They have huge blind spots and weird loyalties to some very nasty people.

Looking at the kind of people Trump and Comey are. You would never think they would help each other out....well Comey help Trump a lot. I don't think Trump ever helped anyone but himself and he actually hurt Comey. But I doubt Comey thought Trump would betray him when he put out his Hillary email letter.

Irish_Dem

(49,982 posts)
29. I am concerned about this too, Garland with help Trump even more.
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 12:36 PM
Feb 2024

I don't know if Garland is actively helping Trump, it does appear that way.
Or if he has no judgment, social awareness, or ability to size up people.

If he has a weird loyalty to bad people that makes him complicit, he is an enabler.
And not suitable for employment in the criminal justice system.

It is hard to believe that Comey did not know what he was doing and how it would hurt Hillary.
Or that he did not have the measure of Trump. It was all done on purpose.

onecaliberal

(33,246 posts)
14. K&R
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 11:30 AM
Feb 2024

He has a lot of apologists here, someone will be along soon to offer up the buffet of pathetic excuses.

Bluethroughu

(5,234 posts)
15. Our institutions have been under attack for decades.
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 11:33 AM
Feb 2024

The oligarchs of the US have been slowly breaking our country up for their benefit, and are so close that their bought and paid for partners from within are not even trying to hide it. Hence 1/6.

If someone in government is NOT protecting our institutions, then they are not worthy of working for them.

New Haven

(1,061 posts)
16. Does he get any points for appointing Jack Smith?
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 11:44 AM
Feb 2024

One of four criminal cases Trump faces, special counsel Jack Smith charged the former president with four federal felonies that accuse him of conspiring to overturn the results of the 2020 election. Trump pleaded not guilty.

I would not say that Smith has endeared himself to the Republican party.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/9/20/us-attorney-general-rejects-republicans-political-influence-accusations
“Our job is not to take orders from the president, from Congress, or from anyone else, about who or what to criminally investigate,” Garland told the panel of United States legislators.

“I am not the president’s lawyer. I will add, I am not Congress’s prosecutor. The Justice Department works for the American people. Our job is to follow the facts and the law – that is what we do.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/01/06/how-many-people-charged-jan-6-riot/10965483002/
In the two years since a violent mob forced its way into the U.S. Capitol, more than 950 people have been charged for their roles in the riot, and the Federal Bureau of Investigation continues to seek hundreds more.

"Our work is far from over," Attorney General Merrick Garland stated Wednesday, regarding the investigation into the deadly attack on Jan. 6, 2021.

Roughly 350 suspects remain on the FBI's wanted list of violent offenders at the Capitol that day, Garland's office stated. More than two-thirds are wanted for violence against the estimated 140 law enforcement officers assaulted that day.

Garland's office reports more than 950 have been charged. Roughly 230 of those were arrested in 2022, records show. But arrests continue, with at least 17 in December


bigtree

(86,187 posts)
35. except for the sedition charges for riot leaders
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 01:10 PM
Feb 2024

...Jack Smith isn't going to complicate the prosecutions he's working right now to include ANY co-conspirator, except his Maralago cabana boy.

He not going to risk delaying the Trump election fraud trial which would be buffetted even more by challenges from perps and evidence discovery nightmares from their defense lawyers.

redqueen

(115,113 posts)
23. Personally no, I wouldn't give him any points
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 12:07 PM
Feb 2024

because I see it as an ass-covering move. Smith has gone after the people who on the ground but not the ones who orchestrated or assisted from higher levels.

Like busting street level drug dealers while ignoring the cartels

gab13by13

(21,889 posts)
32. Oh lordy, brings back memories,
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 12:52 PM
Feb 2024

we had a local bar hopper, did odd jobs, was nice to anyone and everyone. I even gave him a ride home one night when he was plastered, he didn't want to get out of the car, wanted to talk.

We have a big doings on the 4th and Ed was lit up, he left the Sportsman's Club staggered across the street and our town cop nudged him into the back seat of his patrol car. He had some marijuana on him that fell out of his pocket.

The headline in our local paper was that law enforcement has cracked down on a major drug dealer. Ed didn't have 2 nickels to rub together, everyone laughed about the headline.

republianmushroom

(14,436 posts)
37. Seems like a fair question. I'm guessing 11 months.
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 01:27 PM
Feb 2024

AS far as, "Hasn’t charged any house or senate coup plotters." forget it, it will not happen.
Don't want to seem political. Statues will run out.

Beastly Boy

(9,770 posts)
39. This is a perfect example of how insanely irrational Garland bashing has become.
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 05:27 PM
Feb 2024
SO FAR: Merrick Garland investigated Joe Biden and his son. Ignored the Mueller Report, Jared and Ivanka’s WH crimes and Trump’s Covid mismanagement. Sat on January 6th insurrection for 2 years. Hasn’t charged any house or senate coup plotters. Why is he still employed?


Garland did NOT investigate Biden and his son. He did NOT ignore the Mueller report.He did NOT ignore Jared and Ivanka's WH crimes. He did NOT ignore Trump's Covid mismanagement. He did NOT sit on Jan 6th insurrection. He DID investigate Trump for election interference.

All these are well documented and factual. Yet, Garland bashers ignore this, time, and again, and again, and again.

With the facts that the Earth is round staring them in the face, they keep insisting that the Earth is flat. How many times can you argue with THAT?

Jeez!...
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