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EnergizedLib

(1,919 posts)
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 08:00 PM Feb 2024

I don't want to hear it

I don’t want to hear the talking points from the gun lovers.

I don’t want to hear about the Second Amendment and the Constitution - not if one amendment is so sacred to you, but the others are not.

I don’t want hear about you needing guns to combat a tyrannical government - not if you’ll vote for someone who says they’d be a dictator and if you say on camera that American needs one.

I don’t want to hear about freedom - not if you’re for making it harder to vote, not if you want to tell two consenting adults what they can and can’t do or who they can and can’t marry, not if you’re interested in forcing your religion on everybody else.

I don’t want to hear about other things used as weapons - considering almost anything can be one, but many things used as weapons weren’t designed to be weapons. Furthermore, if other things can be used as weapons, other things can be used as self defense.

I don’t want to hear about guns being purchased illegally - since guns purchased legally can and are used like this.

I don’t want to hear about criminals not following laws and law-abiding citizens - then what’s the point of laws, by your logic? Everybody is a law-abiding citizen until they’re not.

I don’t want to hear about how guns don’t kill people - if they save lives, they also kill. And people will, with guns, and you can kill more people and do so faster with firearms.

I don’t want to hear about how more guns are the answer - because if they are, why does this happen in this country, no matter what state and what state’s gun laws? Why do other countries issue travel advisories to their citizens about them coming here because of our gun laws?

I don’t want to hear about mental health - not if you refuse funding for it.

It’s good to know I could be a victim of gun violence and countless people will act like my life and this would-be tragedy doesn’t matter.

If I had the power to unilaterally repeal the Second Amendment, I’d have done so years ago and banish all guns from existence.

Sorry, I’m not sorry.

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I don't want to hear it (Original Post) EnergizedLib Feb 2024 OP
What he/she said MadameButterfly Feb 2024 #1
Lots of good points, CrispyQ Feb 2024 #2
Thanks EnergizedLib Feb 2024 #3
I agree Ohioboy Feb 2024 #29
Great OP malaise Feb 2024 #4
I appreciate it EnergizedLib Feb 2024 #5
Let's just say for shits and giggles, Mr. Evil Feb 2024 #6
And certainly EnergizedLib Feb 2024 #7
Yup! Mr. Evil Feb 2024 #8
Man! I sure wish that was a real book! ShazzieB Feb 2024 #10
You're so right about that! Mr. Evil Feb 2024 #15
A fucking men nt berniesandersmittens Feb 2024 #9
fuck gun humping cowards Skittles Feb 2024 #11
Excellent points DC77 Feb 2024 #12
It's hypocrisy when they state a good guy with a gun... StClone Feb 2024 #26
Righteous rant and I agree with all of it! llmart Feb 2024 #13
I'm so tired of people essentially saying guns are more important than lives. PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2024 #14
I agree 100% Leith Feb 2024 #16
K&R spanone Feb 2024 #17
🙏🏽 blm Feb 2024 #18
The gun humpers see the victims of shootings StarryNite Feb 2024 #19
"I don't want to hear about mental health - not if you refuse funding for it." chouchou Feb 2024 #20
Well, I'm clinically depressed EnergizedLib Feb 2024 #22
Oh, yes they do. OldBaldy1701E Feb 2024 #23
K&R onecaliberal Feb 2024 #21
And I don't want to hear that just because the shooters were young black men Barry Markson Feb 2024 #24
I'm pretty I sure I want gun control EnergizedLib Feb 2024 #28
What you said. n/t Liberal In Texas Feb 2024 #25
Well said dlk Feb 2024 #27
If the fascist take power you may change your tune when the christian taliban starts going door to door Hotler Feb 2024 #30
I'll disarm the day the last MAGAt does The Mouth Feb 2024 #32
I want to hear about "well regulated militia" IbogaProject Feb 2024 #31
With you 100,000 percent! calimary Feb 2024 #33

CrispyQ

(37,111 posts)
2. Lots of good points,
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 08:24 PM
Feb 2024

but your point about fighting a tyrannical government but voting for the guy who want to be a dictator was most excellent!!

Mr. Evil

(2,925 posts)
6. Let's just say for shits and giggles,
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 09:01 PM
Feb 2024

that TFG wins and shreds the constitution. These amazingly dumbest of the super dumb shit-for-brains idiots don't realize if that happens there would no longer be any 2nd amendment rights. Here's a book just for them.

ShazzieB

(17,277 posts)
10. Man! I sure wish that was a real book!
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 09:13 PM
Feb 2024

There are a lot of people in this country who need to read a book like that!

Mr. Evil

(2,925 posts)
15. You're so right about that!
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 09:33 PM
Feb 2024

I think maybe only 10% would actually get it. But, it would be a start.

DC77

(118 posts)
12. Excellent points
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 09:18 PM
Feb 2024

The hypocrisy and paradoxes of today’s Republican majority are almost infinite. Yet, I think deep down, they know this. Logic fails.

StClone

(11,766 posts)
26. It's hypocrisy when they state a good guy with a gun...
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 11:56 PM
Feb 2024

...it's the GUN that keeps us all "safe." But when an armed mass murderer appears it is the mass murderer who does the killing!

llmart

(15,935 posts)
13. Righteous rant and I agree with all of it!
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 09:24 PM
Feb 2024

It's long past time to demolish the NRA and its influence on politicians. I only hope that the younger generations do a better job at getting the guns out of our society than we did.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(26,050 posts)
14. I'm so tired of people essentially saying guns are more important than lives.
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 09:31 PM
Feb 2024

And clearly, the shooter/s in Kansas City targeted children.

StarryNite

(10,101 posts)
19. The gun humpers see the victims of shootings
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 09:55 PM
Feb 2024

only as collateral damage to their precious right to have guns. If it's not somebody they loved who was killed with a gun the only thing that makes them cringe is that each shooting might make it more difficult for them to have and keep their guns in the future. Of course that never happens.

chouchou

(943 posts)
20. "I don't want to hear about mental health - not if you refuse funding for it."
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 10:08 PM
Feb 2024

That's the biggie.
The republicans short-circuited mental-health help and funds.
Then they made guns a household NEED.
People from other countries think we're nuts. Not so much nuts..just depressed-as-hell. I don't feel that way but many people I've work with..are.

EnergizedLib

(1,919 posts)
22. Well, I'm clinically depressed
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 10:13 PM
Feb 2024

Republicans don’t want to fund a n y t h i n g

And that’s a problem.

 

Barry Markson

(280 posts)
24. And I don't want to hear that just because the shooters were young black men
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 11:34 PM
Feb 2024

It makes all common sense gun control arguments null and void!

The gun humping magats do this shit every goddamned time!



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NO, WE WON'T ALL STAY SILENT NOW!

Hotler

(11,669 posts)
30. If the fascist take power you may change your tune when the christian taliban starts going door to door
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 10:03 AM
Feb 2024

rounding up Dems & Libs for internment camps and ovens. I don't know about you, they're not taking me alive. If the orange one takes power only his minions will be able to have guns. This point in our history might be the reason the 2nd amendment was written.

IbogaProject

(3,096 posts)
31. I want to hear about "well regulated militia"
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 01:16 PM
Feb 2024

As that regulation is Necessary for our Collective Security. I'm in favor of heavy trucks, which carry stringent operator requirements and insurance. Let us let the Free Market value the societal costs through mandatory insurance and no free loading.

calimary

(82,754 posts)
33. With you 100,000 percent!
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 06:44 PM
Feb 2024

My retort usually is some version of - “okay, then: if I shut up, can I have my two friends back?” (An argument between them grew so heated that she grabbed the gun in the house and blew him away, then hid behind a door and blew herself away - AFTER her terrified mom had heard the first shot and started screaming her name to make sure the worst she’d feared - really hadn’t happened.)

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