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PCIntern

(25,675 posts)
Fri Feb 16, 2024, 10:14 AM Feb 2024

"Tawdry and salacious "

Jesus. Let me explain to a few of the Pearl-clutching virginal commentators on tv that two adult individuals having consensual sex who wished to remain private are not authors of “tawdry and salacious” narratives nor in fact are these narratives tawdry and salacious. The parties involved did not video themselves and upload it to Onlyfans. What’s more, Billions of people have sexual intercourse yearly and their behavior cannot be classified as such and would be angry and horrified to have their behavior described using these adjectives .

This couple had Propinquity propink and wound up having sex. You can discuss the financial aspect of this, you can discuss the ethical aspect of this, but the words “tawdry” and “salacious” do not belong. These terms are propagandistic and unnecessary.

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"Tawdry and salacious " (Original Post) PCIntern Feb 2024 OP
K&R spanone Feb 2024 #1
Just ugh to those commentators Ninga Feb 2024 #2
If it's on Pox News it's Russian propaganda The Wizard Feb 2024 #3
Tawdry and salacious... Hugin Feb 2024 #4
Raw mushrooming! yardwork Feb 2024 #8
raw mushrooming!? AllaN01Bear Feb 2024 #9
"Tawdry and salacious" accurately describes the discussion of the subject, not the subject itself. eppur_se_muova Feb 2024 #5
Good call. Hugin Feb 2024 #6
The whole case seems to built on racism and frantic attempts to save Trump. yardwork Feb 2024 #7
The whole thing is propaganda relayerbob Feb 2024 #10
The word that keeps bothering me: "luxury" Sympthsical Feb 2024 #11
"People like that" aren't supposed to go on "luxury vacations." yardwork Feb 2024 #23
I call BS! Jean Genie Feb 2024 #12
I said it when these clowns moniss Feb 2024 #13
Tawdry and salacious is Donald Trump running his hands democrank Feb 2024 #14
Let us not forget that the word "date" PCIntern Feb 2024 #15
Who said it? Where was it printed? I didn't here or see it and need to direct my outrage. RVN VET71 Feb 2024 #16
A Google search of "tawdry and salacious"... dchill Feb 2024 #20
Tawdry and salacious sounds like the name of a punk metal Joni Mitchell cover band. limbicnuminousity Feb 2024 #17
The audacious irony of them making an issue of this behavior is mind blowing. sarchasm Feb 2024 #18
Did Willis pay $130K in hush money to Wade, disguise it as a business expense and take a tax deduction? Marcuse Feb 2024 #19
The orange man's attorneys keep asking louis-t Feb 2024 #21
Even if these words, "tawdry" and "salacious", are correct, what does that republianmushroom Feb 2024 #22

The Wizard

(12,562 posts)
3. If it's on Pox News it's Russian propaganda
Fri Feb 16, 2024, 10:27 AM
Feb 2024

designed to help Trump get into office and promote Russia's efforts to destroy the United States. Republicans for Putin would be closer to the truth. Treason Trump and Republicans in Congress are Putin's agents in the United States. Republicans hate democracy and American values.

Hugin

(33,240 posts)
4. Tawdry and salacious...
Fri Feb 16, 2024, 10:40 AM
Feb 2024

I’d think those terms would be better applied to a rapey rapist who rapes. Raw mushrooming several females including an acknowledged porn actress in the same shoddy gaudy penthouse where his alleged former escort and also porn model third wife was upstairs pregnant with his fifth child (that we know of). Subsequently paying them hush money so they wouldn’t out how lousy the encounter was during an election he was criminally unqualified for.

But, instead they are applied to a couple of unmarried professional adults who have only been observed “hugging and kissing” appropriately.

But, hey, the media is the ultimate judge of the terms they use and I am ultimately not qualified to have an objective opinion.

eppur_se_muova

(36,319 posts)
5. "Tawdry and salacious" accurately describes the discussion of the subject, not the subject itself.
Fri Feb 16, 2024, 10:45 AM
Feb 2024

It's the wagging tongues (with malice aforethought) who should feel shame, but they never will.

yardwork

(61,847 posts)
7. The whole case seems to built on racism and frantic attempts to save Trump.
Fri Feb 16, 2024, 11:02 AM
Feb 2024

Not only are these characterizations racist, they're all pure projection. It's Trump and his people who are tawdry. They engage in kickbacks and illegal funneling of cash.

It's all red meat for Trump's racist base. I can hear them now.

Sympthsical

(9,206 posts)
11. The word that keeps bothering me: "luxury"
Fri Feb 16, 2024, 11:50 AM
Feb 2024

It's a minor, idiosyncratic thing, but it's been said a billion times in all this and drives me crazy every time. "They took luxury vacations!"

What, $1,500 to $2,000 per person?

Guys, that's just vacation.

They keep making it sound like they took a private jet to Ibiza or something.

Oh my god, they were in Napa. Yeah. I live around Napa. I am there multiple times a month. It ain't that expensive. Bachelorette parties manage it.

yardwork

(61,847 posts)
23. "People like that" aren't supposed to go on "luxury vacations."
Fri Feb 16, 2024, 03:39 PM
Feb 2024

Again, this is purely racism. Destinations like Napa are supposed to be reserved for white people, in the ugly little minds of racists. It's despicable that the media are amplifying it. Shows how much of a problem we face with racism in this country.

Jean Genie

(289 posts)
12. I call BS!
Fri Feb 16, 2024, 11:50 AM
Feb 2024

No folks. Donald "pussy grabber" Trump is tawdry and salacious. Not two adults engaging in a private relationship which is really no one else's business. But (gasp!) they're black people. Doesn't that give the media the right (and privilege) to castigate them?

Can we not find something better to do with our lives? Like grow up and MYOB!

moniss

(4,274 posts)
13. I said it when these clowns
Fri Feb 16, 2024, 12:05 PM
Feb 2024

got power. They are the New Puritans. They so want to put that scarlet letter on her. Somehow when it is their hero and themselves they hold no mirror to themselves but instead become Chillingworth and the rest of the people and are enraged at a woman displaying dignity who will not be what they want.

democrank

(11,116 posts)
14. Tawdry and salacious is Donald Trump running his hands
Fri Feb 16, 2024, 12:05 PM
Feb 2024

over his daughter’s hips and stating that he’d like to date her…..if he wasn’t her father, of course.

limbicnuminousity

(1,407 posts)
17. Tawdry and salacious sounds like the name of a punk metal Joni Mitchell cover band.
Fri Feb 16, 2024, 12:43 PM
Feb 2024

This perverse American morbid fascination with consensual sex, trying to paint it as shaming, is weird.

Consensual sex = bad.
Trump rapes E Jean Carroll = ?
Trump rapes minors at Epstein's island = ?
Victims of rape forced to carry offspring to term = ?
Trump assaults Stormy Daniels with his porcini = ?
Christian Ziegler = ?
Matt Gaetz = ?

sarchasm

(1,014 posts)
18. The audacious irony of them making an issue of this behavior is mind blowing.
Fri Feb 16, 2024, 12:48 PM
Feb 2024

Let's review the receipts ...

Ivana 1977 - 1992 - TSF cheated on his 1st wife with his second where she proudly proclaimed, "best sex I ever had!" (wretch )

Marla 1993 - 1999 - TSF spokesman at the time, John Miller," and told a People reporter that he'd never marry Maples, and that he had "three other girlfriends" at the time.

Melania 2005 - present - One year after marrying Melania, TSF had an affair with the porn star Stormy Daniels and paid her $130K to keep quiet about it. Thankfullly, he will answer for THAT March 25th. Also in the same year he had an affair with 1998 Playmate of the Year, Karen McDougal where he colluded with the owner on the National Enquirer to pay her $150K to keep that one quiet.

1980's - 2013 - 19 women have come forward to accuse TSF of sexual harassment, including E Jean Carrol who won an $83 million dollar judgement in January of 2024.

All massively salacious and tawdry if I've ever seen it. As the man said, you know it when you see it.

Marcuse

(7,568 posts)
19. Did Willis pay $130K in hush money to Wade, disguise it as a business expense and take a tax deduction?
Fri Feb 16, 2024, 12:51 PM
Feb 2024

Or did she simply split vacation expenses.

louis-t

(23,322 posts)
21. The orange man's attorneys keep asking
Fri Feb 16, 2024, 01:07 PM
Feb 2024

the same questions over and over and splitting hairs waiting for something they can pounce on and say "AHA!!!!" It's nerve wracking.

republianmushroom

(13,956 posts)
22. Even if these words, "tawdry" and "salacious", are correct, what does that
Fri Feb 16, 2024, 01:13 PM
Feb 2024

have to de with the evidence of the case against trump ?

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