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Andrew Weissmann said, the Supreme Court, de facto, gave Benedict Donald immunity.
Can't blame Jack Smith or judge Chutkan.
BlueKota
(1,780 posts)So Biden in my opinion should say then immunity applies to me too, and do whatever the hell he wants to.
Diraven
(527 posts)So only if Trump wins the election then he'll be the one that gets immunity. If they actually rule that Trump has immunity before election day there will be to much anti-Trump backlash with people trying make sure he won't become dictator.
BlueKota
(1,780 posts)Pachamama
(16,887 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,626 posts)sentiment out there by the Dems today. I couldn't agree more. Garland blew it big time, just as I knew he would by his "I am not political" crap for 3 years.
FHRRK
(499 posts)Anyone defending Garland, you make the call.
gab13by13
(21,400 posts)Schiff said that if it wasn't for the J6 committee that Benedict Donald may not have been indicted for anything.
I was given spankings here for criticizing Merrick Garland.
BigmanPigman
(51,626 posts)about Garland since it was always border-line whether or not I was breaking a rule by not about supporting Dems. It was safer to stay quiet than going through that all the time.
gab13by13
(21,400 posts)markodochartaigh
(1,145 posts)noun, q.v. Good German.
Codifer
(548 posts)As "impediment".
My bad.
markodochartaigh
(1,145 posts)independent and impediment are the same.
AZLD4Candidate
(5,750 posts)elocs
(22,598 posts)Been there, done that, got spanked as well even though I refuse to consider myself a DUer. I just post here and I've voted exclusively Democrats for over 50 years.
TwilightZone
(25,476 posts)He's been on several times in the past few hours, and the timeline has been discussed at length. He said that if the SC doesn't act immediately after hearing the case in April, it may be too late, but it still depends on timing. If they wait to issue their ruling until June, the timeline is very short.
Adjustments would need to be made either in the prep time allowed to the Trump team (currently planned as 88 days) or the trial length (currently planned for three months). If those adjustments can't be made, then it's running up against the date of the election.
FHRRK
(499 posts)You can't move the Goal Posts again
You and others, WERE WRONG
TwilightZone
(25,476 posts)I'm providing what was actually said rather than the simplistic, kneejerk assertions made in the OP. That simply is not what was said, and the discussion has literally being going on for hours, several shows in a row.
If you want to make childish assertions and ignore what was actually said, that's your prerogative. It's clear that you haven't the first clue what I've said on the subject.
ShazzieB
(16,497 posts)I've been watching MSNBC since the news first broke, same as you. I think people tend to pick up on the things that jive with their own opinions (I do it myself, for sure), so it doesn't surprise me that some people are seizing on the most negative comments that have been made by Weisman and others. I completely understand that, especially at a time like this, when people are so upset and worried. But it can still be hard to deal with.
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MorbidButterflyTat
(1,852 posts)...that's really rude.
FHRRK
(499 posts)A small but vocal group who dont appear to support Western Democracy.
gab13by13
(21,400 posts)130 days to decide if it will hear the immunity appeal. Jack Smith asked the SC to take the case after the district court ruled, the SC said no, send it on to the Appeals Court, the Appeals court rules, then the Supreme Court decides it will take the appeal.
Early voting begins after Labor Day. What about that DOJ memo that has never been challenged that DOJ can't interfere in an election. There is a debate whether the time frame is 60 days or 90 days prior. Do you really believe that Merrick Garland will allow a trial to start in August? July?
It's over.
Once again; GOTV.
Arazi
(6,829 posts)Like a couple years in the past, theyll drag it out into July before their ruling comes out. They deliberately sent this back to the circuit court (delay) when they didnt have to. Now theyre having hearings?!
The corruption on this court cant be ignored
Sky Jewels
(7,136 posts)He will go down in history as helping to destroy US democracy.
jalan48
(13,882 posts)JanMichael
(24,890 posts)I will leave it at that.
Earth-shine
(4,044 posts)I very much believe we'd have been disappointed with him as a Supreme Court justice as well.
JanMichael
(24,890 posts)And can fetch a stick when asked.
Earth-shine
(4,044 posts)edbermac
(15,945 posts)And I hope he screws them over.
dalton99a
(81,570 posts)Last edited Wed Feb 28, 2024, 11:22 PM - Edit history (1)
calimary
(81,451 posts)And sink our teeth into it. Deeply.
0rganism
(23,968 posts)Granting immunity to any president other than Trump is not going to happen
Silent3
(15,263 posts)If there was any chance theyd actually grant immunity, so that the corruption was beyond merely buying time for Trump, then SCOTUS would grant such immunity only if and when Trump was sworn in as President. This immunity would not be granted in a way Biden could take advantage of it.
PuraVidaDreamin
(4,109 posts)Just to pile on!
JanMichael
(24,890 posts)Like that's going to happen
MLAA
(17,319 posts)MOMFUDSKI
(5,633 posts)when he failed to get it in gear. No one is going to save us but ourselves. Even voting is iffy because it could be stolen. The US is past the point that most democracies die. Anybody got some good news for me?
lees1975
(3,878 posts)This has been set up for a long time. Rush Limbaugh openly advocated for Republicans to corrupt the judicial system to protect them from the surges of "liberal" voters after it became clear they were incompetent to govern. It was their way of making sure conservative values stuck around. And here we are.
The only thing I can say is that I hope this lights a fire under Democratic and independent voters to see how necessary it is to get out and vote, and then stand guard over the counting and certification process like hawks because they are going to cheat.
lees1975
(3,878 posts)At least a year was wasted.
The Unmitigated Gall
(3,830 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,626 posts)mn9driver
(4,428 posts)Once the delay has made pre-election trials impossible, they will allow him to pardon himself the day he takes office. In other words, he will be allowed to grant himself immunity.
But he needs to win the election first. Expect a replay of 2020, but this time with actual election fraud and lots of extra violence.
czarjak
(11,289 posts)The American Dream, Donald?
republianmushroom
(13,675 posts)Lot DOJ foot dragging.
gulliver
(13,192 posts)The system is what it is. The pace is the best it can do. Any attempt to go faster would be rightly regarded as Garland trying to "get" Trump. It would be a sure and certain L for justice.
The W will happen when it happens.
patricia92243
(12,600 posts)days. They can get with it when they want to.
mzmolly
(51,003 posts)Eom