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Sarah Longwell, a one-time Republican pollster who has kept her distance from the party ever since the emergence of former President Donald Trump, said the GOP made a grievous error by setting expectations so low for President Joe Biden's State of the Union response.
Appearing on CNN Friday morning, Longwell said that Biden delivered an excellent address by any standard, but she added that its impact was enhanced because Republicans had spent so many months writing off Biden as a doddering invalid on the cusp of death's door.
"Last night, what he said was for the Democratic base," Longwell explained. "But how he said it was for swing voters who needed to see that this guy was all there, that he could do the job. And I told you yesterday when I was on the show, the Republicans have made a mistake because they set the bar at dementia."
Longwell said that the sharpness of Biden's address made he easily cleared that bar and added that "if that's what dementia looks like then I hope that's how I have dementia when I'm older because he was on his game." Longwell also said that the Republican reaction to Biden's address showed that he was on top of his game.
https://www.rawstory.com/biden-sotu-gop-response/
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marble falls
(59,971 posts)2naSalit
(90,504 posts)For Johnson to introduce him! He came out swinging and stayed soundly on his feet to the end and then some. He didn't look fatigued during the hour + that it took for him to make it through to the door.
And everyone he spoke with was smiling and enjoying the interactions. Bet he doesn't smell like dirty diapers and BO too.
rubbersole
(7,862 posts)Roc2020
(1,659 posts)Wiped their faces in the dog doo doo of Trump. Serves them right.
Demsrule86
(70,536 posts)Lonestarblue
(11,191 posts)That would be quite a contrast for voters.
2naSalit
(90,504 posts)That's going to happen. You just know that TLP has a whole pile of ads using pieces of this speech.
That's a new one on me.
2naSalit
(90,504 posts)ShazzieB
(17,839 posts)I don't know why I didn't think of that, d'oh!
Thanks.
2naSalit
(90,504 posts)I've done it myself.
rgbecker
(4,867 posts)Trump, in every speech, tells of Biden being the worse president ever. Biden's speech last night showed the truth and the GOP is getting spanked.
PJMcK
(22,453 posts)The other week, a serious group of presidential historians listed American president from best to worst. Lincoln was number one, Trump was dead last.
Its obvious why Trump would call President Biden the worst. Its projection.
Trump is going down. His consistent history as a loser is catching up to him.
underpants
(185,005 posts)I havent heard anything about Trumps supposed play by play take on it.
llmart
(16,091 posts)Or as he's better known, tfg, tsf and now "predecessor".
I love how Joe used that last term throughout. It gave the impression of how it's presidency was just a blip on his radar without seeming too unclassy for a real President, even though we know Joe likes the tsf meme better.
IbogaProject
(3,291 posts)is it just The S*!t Face ?
UniqueUserName
(224 posts)It was reported that that is how Biden refers to Trump in private.
IbogaProject
(3,291 posts)Thank you, very accurate description.
COL Mustard
(6,534 posts)DemocraticPatriot
(5,410 posts)Pot, meet kettle...
underpants
(185,005 posts)If thats what you were alluding to
ShazzieB
(17,839 posts)![](/emoticons/rofl.gif)
Mr.Bill
(24,576 posts)that the majority of the country is damn angry, because we are. But he's the one that's crazy.
NJCher
(37,094 posts)Interviewed people who watched it? There were a lot of comments, about 15 or so. MSNBC.
People are not very tactful.
One lady said theyre both old. But trump is old AND crazy.
Demsrule86
(70,536 posts)underpants
(185,005 posts)They did change from ABC News back to Fox. It was a weird combination of something close to reality followed by the host (local during both drive times) spending time trying to refute what the listeners just heard.
They dumped Glen Beck and picked up Kilmeade from Fox n Friends. Good lord hes actually dumber than he appears to be on TV. Not just lying but not really able to string together sentences or a thought.
Marthe48
(18,289 posts)rwnj traitor boy is demented, and you'd have to have a screw loose not to realize the mental state traitor is in. So projection.
niyad
(117,641 posts)of death's door"??? "made he easily cleared"??? Annoying, to say the least.
Farmer-Rick
(10,886 posts)Paragraph long sentences? Don't they know how to use a period?
Either it was a poorly edited AI written article or someone doesn't know how American cliche, idioms and periods work.....or both.
Bernardo de La Paz
(50,249 posts)Ocelot II
(119,038 posts)Johnny2X2X
(20,881 posts)They set the bar at senility and then Biden wiped the floor with Trump in 2 debates and that narrative just disappeared. Same thing happened last night.
BeyondGeography
(39,745 posts)Im 40-some odd years older now so I can admit it.
NYC Liberal
(20,319 posts)Now, I dont think Bush is the smartest man alive. But unfortunately Dems set the bar so low in 2004 that as long as he wasnt drooling on himself and mumbling incoherently, he was going to exceed expectations.
happy feet
(1,033 posts)The Republican Party kept lowering the bar of expectations , it wasnt the Dems.
cab67
(3,141 posts)...I think the level to which Republicans underestimated Biden's capability was at a different order of magnitude.
For all the signs of increasing impairment, Reagan was a trained actor, and his ability to speak in public was never really questioned.
BeyondGeography
(39,745 posts)Speaking for myself, I didnt know the backstory. The GE years and all that involved in terms of getting to know his corner of the country and honing his schtick. The 64 convention speech where he stole the show from Goldwater. His work habits as governor of CA which were actually pretty diligent. Nixon lived in fear of him as a challenger in 68. Ford barely beat him out in 76. The guy had paid his political dues and deserved a lot more respect as a serious opponent than I was giving him and I wasnt alone.
cab67
(3,141 posts)cilla4progress
(25,434 posts)Russian propaganda has its limits!!!
LiberalFighter
(53,036 posts)Martin68
(23,961 posts)Rocknation
(44,732 posts)While actively ignoring the fact that their alternative to Biden IS a Republican doddering invalid on the cusp of death's door...
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Rocknation
DFW
(55,822 posts)And instead their opponent turned out to be an Olympic gold medalist sprinter.
Oops.
DownriverDem
(6,449 posts)I vote the issues & the MAGAs offer nothing to the majority of women, enlightened men & GenZs.
republianmushroom
(16,296 posts)The result are only going to get worst for the republicans.
Qutzupalotl
(14,836 posts)Just so he could have a more jarring, in-your-face, what-were-you-people-thinking SotU. Or rope-a-dope, as others have said.
At the time, I thought skipping was a mistake. Today, not so much. Biden certainly knows what he's doing.
Qutzupalotl
(14,836 posts)Last edited Fri Mar 8, 2024, 04:58 PM - Edit history (1)
Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.
Guess which of the candidates go where.
DavidDvorkin
(19,740 posts)In that case, they were correct about him being a dangerous wacko, but the problem was that when the public saw him on TV, he came across as genial and likable instead.
Cha
(302,366 posts)TY!
BootinUp
(48,269 posts)soldierant
(7,613 posts)But it's rare (and this time wonderful) to see a whole party doing it at the same time.
Gore1FL
(21,581 posts)A bar their own candidate is unlikley to top on election day; I am not sure he can pass a dementia test now.
unblock
(53,787 posts)Climate Crusader
(66 posts)I'd swear the president sandbagged them.He made them believe he was weak and when they dropped their defense, he popped them in the jaw.
FakeNoose
(34,583 posts)It's the only thing they know how to do at Faux. Since the Repukes (most of them) never watch any other channel, that's all they see 24/7/365.
elleng
(134,532 posts)as a doddering invalid on the cusp of death's door.
"Last night, what he said was for the Democratic base," Longwell explained. "But how he said it was for swing voters who needed to see that this guy was all there, that he could do the job. And I told you yesterday when I was on the show, the Republicans have made a mistake because they set the bar at dementia."'
DFW
(55,822 posts)Tell all the lies you want, but never believe them yourself.