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Tom of Temecula

(1,574 posts)
Fri Mar 8, 2024, 09:59 AM Mar 2024

'Republicans made a mistake': Pollster identifies GOP's biggest blunder on Biden SOTU

Sarah Longwell, a one-time Republican pollster who has kept her distance from the party ever since the emergence of former President Donald Trump, said the GOP made a grievous error by setting expectations so low for President Joe Biden's State of the Union response.

Appearing on CNN Friday morning, Longwell said that Biden delivered an excellent address by any standard, but she added that its impact was enhanced because Republicans had spent so many months writing off Biden as a doddering invalid on the cusp of death's door.

"Last night, what he said was for the Democratic base," Longwell explained. "But how he said it was for swing voters who needed to see that this guy was all there, that he could do the job. And I told you yesterday when I was on the show, the Republicans have made a mistake because they set the bar at dementia."

Longwell said that the sharpness of Biden's address made he easily cleared that bar and added that "if that's what dementia looks like then I hope that's how I have dementia when I'm older because he was on his game." Longwell also said that the Republican reaction to Biden's address showed that he was on top of his game.

https://www.rawstory.com/biden-sotu-gop-response/

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'Republicans made a mistake': Pollster identifies GOP's biggest blunder on Biden SOTU (Original Post) Tom of Temecula Mar 2024 OP
He spanked them good, real good. Been waiting for him to step out and he came with an A+ game. marble falls Mar 2024 #1
He didn't even wait... 2naSalit Mar 2024 #7
The smell was coming from Johnson's freshly shit in pants 💩👖. rubbersole Mar 2024 #29
Yes he did Roc2020 Mar 2024 #9
Yes he did Marble Falls...real good Rec Demsrule86 Mar 2024 #24
Democrats need to use clips from the SOTU next to clips of Trump's confused word salads at his rallies. Lonestarblue Mar 2024 #2
Pretty sure... 2naSalit Mar 2024 #4
TLP? ShazzieB Mar 2024 #40
The Lincoln Project. 2naSalit Mar 2024 #42
Oh, that's right! 🤦 ShazzieB Mar 2024 #44
It's okay... 2naSalit Mar 2024 #45
If you lie all the time about someone you are sure to get caught by the truth. rgbecker Mar 2024 #3
Trump projects his flaws onto other PJMcK Mar 2024 #57
Local talk radio was spinning like crazy this morning underpants Mar 2024 #5
Have there been any angry, all caps tweets from you-know-who? llmart Mar 2024 #16
What is TSF? IbogaProject Mar 2024 #18
TSF - the sick f*ck UniqueUserName Mar 2024 #19
perfect IbogaProject Mar 2024 #20
I like that one too!!! COL Mustard Mar 2024 #56
He called President Biden "angry" and "crazy". lol DemocraticPatriot Mar 2024 #22
WRVA listeners have a completely different reality underpants Mar 2024 #23
TSF is just jealous because "angry and crazy" is HIS brand! ShazzieB Mar 2024 #41
He'd better believe Mr.Bill Mar 2024 #53
Did you see that political show that NJCher Mar 2024 #55
Not for long...Soros is buying Audacy. This will give right wing talk radio a run for their money. Demsrule86 Mar 2024 #25
I haven't heard our local station mention that underpants Mar 2024 #30
More rwnj projection Marthe48 Mar 2024 #6
Hey, rawstory, do you actually have something like an editor? "on the cusp niyad Mar 2024 #8
Yeah, and what's with the Farmer-Rick Mar 2024 #15
RawStory eats raw stories and excretes them out as crappy brown click bait. . . . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2024 #28
Raw Story is a mess - badly-written clickbait parasitizing other news outlets. Ocelot II Mar 2024 #27
They did the same thing 4 years ago Johnny2X2X Mar 2024 #10
We made the same mistake with Reagan over and over again BeyondGeography Mar 2024 #11
Bush as well NYC Liberal Mar 2024 #14
My recollection is happy feet Mar 2024 #21
you're not wrong, but... cab67 Mar 2024 #36
That was framed as airhead B-movie actor blah blah blah BeyondGeography Mar 2024 #37
fair enough cab67 Mar 2024 #39
For anyone who's watched him this was not surprising! cilla4progress Mar 2024 #12
Someone on Morning Joe made that assessment too. They set the bar too low. LiberalFighter Mar 2024 #13
Exactly! Martin68 Mar 2024 #17
"Republicans had spent so many months writing off Biden as a doddering invalid Rocknation Mar 2024 #26
It sounds like the Republicans convinced themselves they were running a 1000 yard dash against a double amputee DFW Mar 2024 #31
Biden rocked it! DownriverDem Mar 2024 #32
Yes they did. He is a master politician, not a burned out so called billionaire. republianmushroom Mar 2024 #33
Maybe that's why he skipped the Super Bowl pre-game interview. Qutzupalotl Mar 2024 #34
As Sun Tzu said in The Art of War: Qutzupalotl Mar 2024 #35
It's the same mistake Democrats made with Reagan in 1980 DavidDvorkin Mar 2024 #38
An made "dr" Hur look like a Complete partisan Idiot. Cha Mar 2024 #43
I think she is right, lol. BootinUp Mar 2024 #46
It's never a good idea to believe your own ppress releases. soldierant Mar 2024 #47
"(T)hey set the bar at dementia." Gore1FL Mar 2024 #48
Person man woman camera tv. Someone thought he needed to take that test. *3 years* ago. unblock Mar 2024 #51
I'm not a conspiracy theory person, but... Climate Crusader Mar 2024 #49
I'm pretty sure the sandbagging happened at Faux Noise FakeNoose Mar 2024 #52
*impact was enhanced because Republicans had spent so many months writing off Biden elleng Mar 2024 #50
Republicans are ignoring a fundamental principle of politics DFW Mar 2024 #54

2naSalit

(88,032 posts)
7. He didn't even wait...
Fri Mar 8, 2024, 10:14 AM
Mar 2024

For Johnson to introduce him! He came out swinging and stayed soundly on his feet to the end and then some. He didn't look fatigued during the hour + that it took for him to make it through to the door.

And everyone he spoke with was smiling and enjoying the interactions. Bet he doesn't smell like dirty diapers and BO too.

Lonestarblue

(10,545 posts)
2. Democrats need to use clips from the SOTU next to clips of Trump's confused word salads at his rallies.
Fri Mar 8, 2024, 10:04 AM
Mar 2024

That would be quite a contrast for voters.

2naSalit

(88,032 posts)
4. Pretty sure...
Fri Mar 8, 2024, 10:11 AM
Mar 2024

That's going to happen. You just know that TLP has a whole pile of ads using pieces of this speech.

rgbecker

(4,841 posts)
3. If you lie all the time about someone you are sure to get caught by the truth.
Fri Mar 8, 2024, 10:09 AM
Mar 2024

Trump, in every speech, tells of Biden being the worse president ever. Biden's speech last night showed the truth and the GOP is getting spanked.

PJMcK

(22,191 posts)
57. Trump projects his flaws onto other
Sat Mar 9, 2024, 08:40 AM
Mar 2024

The other week, a serious group of presidential historians listed American president from best to worst. Lincoln was number one, Trump was dead last.

It’s obvious why Trump would call President Biden the worst. It’s projection.

Trump is going down. His consistent history as a loser is catching up to him.

underpants

(183,670 posts)
5. Local talk radio was spinning like crazy this morning
Fri Mar 8, 2024, 10:13 AM
Mar 2024

I haven’t heard anything about Trump’s supposed play by play take on it.

llmart

(15,679 posts)
16. Have there been any angry, all caps tweets from you-know-who?
Fri Mar 8, 2024, 11:33 AM
Mar 2024

Or as he's better known, tfg, tsf and now "predecessor".

I love how Joe used that last term throughout. It gave the impression of how it's presidency was just a blip on his radar without seeming too unclassy for a real President, even though we know Joe likes the tsf meme better.

Mr.Bill

(24,441 posts)
53. He'd better believe
Sat Mar 9, 2024, 01:53 AM
Mar 2024

that the majority of the country is damn angry, because we are. But he's the one that's crazy.

NJCher

(36,149 posts)
55. Did you see that political show that
Sat Mar 9, 2024, 06:19 AM
Mar 2024

Interviewed people who watched it? There were a lot of comments, about 15 or so. MSNBC.

People are not very tactful.

One lady said “they’re both old. But trump is old AND crazy.”

underpants

(183,670 posts)
30. I haven't heard our local station mention that
Fri Mar 8, 2024, 12:50 PM
Mar 2024

They did change from ABC News back to Fox. It was a weird combination of something close to reality followed by the host (local during both drive times) spending time trying to refute what the listeners just heard.

They dumped Glen Beck and picked up Kilmeade from Fox n Friends. Good lord he’s actually dumber than he appears to be on TV. Not just lying but not really able to string together sentences or a thought.

Marthe48

(17,529 posts)
6. More rwnj projection
Fri Mar 8, 2024, 10:13 AM
Mar 2024

rwnj traitor boy is demented, and you'd have to have a screw loose not to realize the mental state traitor is in. So projection.

niyad

(115,065 posts)
8. Hey, rawstory, do you actually have something like an editor? "on the cusp
Fri Mar 8, 2024, 10:42 AM
Mar 2024

of death's door"??? "made he easily cleared"??? Annoying, to say the least.

Farmer-Rick

(10,409 posts)
15. Yeah, and what's with the
Fri Mar 8, 2024, 11:32 AM
Mar 2024

Paragraph long sentences? Don't they know how to use a period?

Either it was a poorly edited AI written article or someone doesn't know how American cliche, idioms and periods work.....or both.

Johnny2X2X

(19,726 posts)
10. They did the same thing 4 years ago
Fri Mar 8, 2024, 10:48 AM
Mar 2024

They set the bar at senility and then Biden wiped the floor with Trump in 2 debates and that narrative just disappeared. Same thing happened last night.

NYC Liberal

(20,153 posts)
14. Bush as well
Fri Mar 8, 2024, 11:07 AM
Mar 2024

Now, I don’t think Bush is the smartest man alive. But unfortunately Dems set the bar so low in 2004 that as long as he wasn’t drooling on himself and mumbling incoherently, he was going to exceed expectations.

cab67

(3,060 posts)
36. you're not wrong, but...
Fri Mar 8, 2024, 02:19 PM
Mar 2024

...I think the level to which Republicans underestimated Biden's capability was at a different order of magnitude.

For all the signs of increasing impairment, Reagan was a trained actor, and his ability to speak in public was never really questioned.

BeyondGeography

(39,438 posts)
37. That was framed as airhead B-movie actor blah blah blah
Fri Mar 8, 2024, 02:34 PM
Mar 2024

Speaking for myself, I didn’t know the backstory. The GE years and all that involved in terms of getting to know his corner of the country and honing his schtick. The ‘64 convention speech where he stole the show from Goldwater. His work habits as governor of CA which were actually pretty diligent. Nixon lived in fear of him as a challenger in ‘68. Ford barely beat him out in ‘76. The guy had paid his political dues and deserved a lot more respect as a serious opponent than I was giving him and I wasn’t alone.

Rocknation

(44,607 posts)
26. "Republicans had spent so many months writing off Biden as a doddering invalid
Fri Mar 8, 2024, 12:45 PM
Mar 2024
on the cusp of death's door..."

While actively ignoring the fact that their alternative to Biden IS a Republican doddering invalid on the cusp of death's door...


Rocknation

DFW

(54,934 posts)
31. It sounds like the Republicans convinced themselves they were running a 1000 yard dash against a double amputee
Fri Mar 8, 2024, 12:58 PM
Mar 2024

And instead their opponent turned out to be an Olympic gold medalist sprinter.

Oops.

DownriverDem

(6,282 posts)
32. Biden rocked it!
Fri Mar 8, 2024, 01:02 PM
Mar 2024

I vote the issues & the MAGAs offer nothing to the majority of women, enlightened men & GenZs.

republianmushroom

(14,743 posts)
33. Yes they did. He is a master politician, not a burned out so called billionaire.
Fri Mar 8, 2024, 01:39 PM
Mar 2024

The result are only going to get worst for the republicans.

Qutzupalotl

(14,432 posts)
34. Maybe that's why he skipped the Super Bowl pre-game interview.
Fri Mar 8, 2024, 02:08 PM
Mar 2024

Just so he could have a more jarring, in-your-face, what-were-you-people-thinking SotU. Or rope-a-dope, as others have said.

At the time, I thought skipping was a mistake. Today, not so much. Biden certainly knows what he's doing.

Qutzupalotl

(14,432 posts)
35. As Sun Tzu said in The Art of War:
Fri Mar 8, 2024, 02:11 PM
Mar 2024

Last edited Fri Mar 8, 2024, 04:58 PM - Edit history (1)

“Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.”

Guess which of the candidates go where.

DavidDvorkin

(19,577 posts)
38. It's the same mistake Democrats made with Reagan in 1980
Fri Mar 8, 2024, 02:42 PM
Mar 2024

In that case, they were correct about him being a dangerous wacko, but the problem was that when the public saw him on TV, he came across as genial and likable instead.

soldierant

(7,186 posts)
47. It's never a good idea to believe your own ppress releases.
Fri Mar 8, 2024, 06:17 PM
Mar 2024

But it's rare (and this time wonderful) to see a whole party doing it at the same time.

Gore1FL

(21,254 posts)
48. "(T)hey set the bar at dementia."
Fri Mar 8, 2024, 07:42 PM
Mar 2024

A bar their own candidate is unlikley to top on election day; I am not sure he can pass a dementia test now.

Climate Crusader

(65 posts)
49. I'm not a conspiracy theory person, but...
Fri Mar 8, 2024, 07:55 PM
Mar 2024

I'd swear the president sandbagged them.He made them believe he was weak and when they dropped their defense, he popped them in the jaw.

FakeNoose

(33,540 posts)
52. I'm pretty sure the sandbagging happened at Faux Noise
Fri Mar 8, 2024, 09:30 PM
Mar 2024

It's the only thing they know how to do at Faux. Since the Repukes (most of them) never watch any other channel, that's all they see 24/7/365.

elleng

(132,359 posts)
50. *impact was enhanced because Republicans had spent so many months writing off Biden
Fri Mar 8, 2024, 08:04 PM
Mar 2024

as a doddering invalid on the cusp of death's door.

"Last night, what he said was for the Democratic base," Longwell explained. "But how he said it was for swing voters who needed to see that this guy was all there, that he could do the job. And I told you yesterday when I was on the show, the Republicans have made a mistake because they set the bar at dementia."'

DFW

(54,934 posts)
54. Republicans are ignoring a fundamental principle of politics
Sat Mar 9, 2024, 03:17 AM
Mar 2024

“Tell all the lies you want, but never believe them yourself.”

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