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Botany

(71,213 posts)
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 01:58 PM Apr 2024

I will you kill you': Trump supporter arrested as Letitia James and judge get death threats. Raw Story

https://www.rawstory.com/engoron-threats/

Dumb ass sent texts to both A.G. Tish James and Judge Engoron

I want to to give you Letitia James a very fair warning that you are not to permanently steal Donald Trumps (sic) assets or his property," one message to James said. "Furthermore you are not to imprison Donald Trump."

He threatened to "go after you with deadly force" because he owned a "whole wall of deadly weapons."

"Mark my words I will kill you if you even dare to permanently steal Donald Trumps (sic) assets or his property," he allegedly wrote.

The suspect was being held without bail at the Erie County Holding Center. The identity of his attorney was not immediately clear.

********

I didn’t use his name in this post. The man needs to be forgotten as he moves into “The Grey Bar Hotel”
for the next 7 years.

I hope he enjoys his 7 years (sentence) in the New York prison system. He is an example of why Trump needs to be locked up because of the vile lies he spreads to the mentally weak MAGA shits.

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I will you kill you': Trump supporter arrested as Letitia James and judge get death threats. Raw Story (Original Post) Botany Apr 2024 OP
Guess I had it wrong. I thought a gag order was to prevent him from inciting violence against Autumn Apr 2024 #1
And another stupid MAGAt.... SergeStorms Apr 2024 #13
I suspect it's that they think they're as immune as they think he is. calimary Apr 2024 #26
When they're done talking to themselves... dchill Apr 2024 #28
Rofl Joinfortmill Apr 2024 #45
I know I do.... Mr. Mustard 2023 Apr 2024 #58
Spending time in a retreat can be beneficial and improve your overall mood ArkansasDemocrat1 Apr 2024 #59
Good. TFG next. marble falls Apr 2024 #2
THIS is what TFG wants. this is his target. (except he wants a smarter one, that will kill) bluestarone Apr 2024 #3
Smarter? I doubt it. I would go with more QUIET or maybe SILENT Model35mech Apr 2024 #7
because he owned a "whole wall of deadly weapons." aeromanKC Apr 2024 #4
Interesting that this supporter cares so much PatSeg Apr 2024 #5
Really! I was like... Hope22 Apr 2024 #8
That would make sense PatSeg Apr 2024 #9
trump's little alter-egos. Some real and some virtually just keyboard junkies. erronis Apr 2024 #22
It's more dangerous for sure Hope22 Apr 2024 #33
Yes, there would have been more effort involved PatSeg Apr 2024 #37
You are missing the point Warpy Apr 2024 #17
Yes. From any empirical angle... dchill Apr 2024 #29
Maybe we need another dog poo cmpaign Warpy Apr 2024 #32
How is a trumpist any different than a sports team fanatic? erronis Apr 2024 #34
That's a good analogy PatSeg Apr 2024 #39
As a bit of a sportswoman I find you seemingly equating drumphf fanatics with sports fanatics rather insulting. Sports.. electric_blue68 Apr 2024 #51
Thats a ridiculous analogy. There's ZERO wrong with rooting for a sports team oldsoftie Apr 2024 #55
That's true for a bunch of them, PatSeg Apr 2024 #38
Yes, that would solve a lot of problems, I agree Warpy Apr 2024 #42
Yes, I was thinking of the ones PatSeg Apr 2024 #43
You really think all the support for Trump is religious? whathehell Apr 2024 #47
It's absolutely astonishing that people are willing to go to jail over something that would NEVER have Ferrets are Cool Apr 2024 #6
Seriously, it is beyond comprehension PatSeg Apr 2024 #10
Ihope the murderous evil pig gets 543 years In the slammer !! Trueblue1968 Apr 2024 #11
No photos of what this clown looks like? No mugshots? Hopefully soon! Oopsie Daisy Apr 2024 #12
A 26 year old.... SergeStorms Apr 2024 #14
Rural areas are red everywhere (except maybe parts of New England). Elessar Zappa Apr 2024 #15
literally everywhere...the most recent turkish elections are a prime example prodigitalson Apr 2024 #49
The same is true in Illinois. murielm99 Apr 2024 #16
Yes. Putting that word in quote marks is appropriate. Oopsie Daisy Apr 2024 #18
Pomeroy, OH and across the Ohio River in Mason, W.V. is as red as any area in America Botany Apr 2024 #23
Having grown up in the Adirondacks - agree. erronis Apr 2024 #36
Rhiannon12866 lives over that way.... SergeStorms Apr 2024 #46
Wait for it... Fritz Walter Apr 2024 #20
"will kill you if you even dare to permanently steal Donald Trumps (sic) assets Ray Bruns Apr 2024 #19
I swear tfg used the same adverb. I don't have the energy to go find it prodigitalson Apr 2024 #50
There are reasons why the Feds Roc2020 Apr 2024 #21
Yet another nwduke Apr 2024 #24
and another one bites the dust. AllaN01Bear Apr 2024 #25
Looks like 'dumb ass' (pardon the language) is going to get some time behind bars for threats against SWBTATTReg Apr 2024 #27
He hasn't been sentenced yet, Disaffected Apr 2024 #30
All that stochastic terrorism spread by criminal-defendant-hitler2 wannabe is going to cost Justice matters. Apr 2024 #31
Way recommended! H2O Man Apr 2024 #35
I think releasing the name would be appropriate. soldierant Apr 2024 #40
He should be worried that Trump may loan him one of his brilliant lawyers. Ping Tung Apr 2024 #41
Why use the clickbait garbage that is raw story NanaCat Apr 2024 #44
Trump counts on these imbeciles to do his dirty work for him. Kablooie Apr 2024 #48
If not Trump directly executing his 'enemies', he will indirectly encourage his followers to do it. keithbvadu2 Apr 2024 #52
Just the kind of hideousness drumphf induces in some people that I was mentioning in the thread about liberal parents... electric_blue68 Apr 2024 #53
That dude needs to be permanently locked in a rubber room. GoodRaisin Apr 2024 #54
Just round bdamomma Apr 2024 #56
No shortage of dumb asses willing to entertain the wealthy. Emile Apr 2024 #57

Autumn

(45,541 posts)
1. Guess I had it wrong. I thought a gag order was to prevent him from inciting violence against
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 02:08 PM
Apr 2024

the judges. But he can ignore the gag order and the police can go after the person he got riled up to make the threats.

SergeStorms

(19,222 posts)
13. And another stupid MAGAt....
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 02:58 PM
Apr 2024

bites the dust. Apparently this freaking doorknob thinks making threats against anyone trying to hold his messiah accountable is quite alright.

Egad, these people are D-U-M-B!

calimary

(82,753 posts)
26. I suspect it's that they think they're as immune as they think he is.
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 04:23 PM
Apr 2024

I suspect they think some invisible "mantle of invincibility" covers and surrounds them because it comes from trump, or somehow extends from trump's own "mantle of invisibility," and therefore they're entitled to the same invincibility.

Only a few of them are waking up and smelling the coffee, as it were. Too bad it's so few, but our law enforcement folks are playing it WAAAAAAAAAY too timidly, so I guess that's how things develop. S-L-O-W-L-Y, one or two bad guys at a time, justice is done, in miniature. But there are CROWDS of these assholes that still walk free, along with the #1 "golden asshole" they worship. NOTHING'S done to him because of all the misery and crime he's inspired, implied a desire for, and fomented. America NEEDS - DESPERATELY NEEDS - to see proof that crime doesn't pay. No matter who you are or how big/famous/rich/powerful you are (or are perceived to be).

Mr. Mustard 2023

(178 posts)
58. I know I do....
Wed Apr 3, 2024, 09:50 AM
Apr 2024

...need to see if crime doesn't pay in America.

I'm fed up and pulling back from this society. It's brutal, cruel and favors the rich.

ArkansasDemocrat1

(1,836 posts)
59. Spending time in a retreat can be beneficial and improve your overall mood
Wed Apr 3, 2024, 12:10 PM
Apr 2024

But then you will stop being mean, Mr. Mustard. Will you at least still shave in the dark to save paper?

bluestarone

(17,679 posts)
3. THIS is what TFG wants. this is his target. (except he wants a smarter one, that will kill)
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 02:17 PM
Apr 2024

Like his x-attorney stated, TFG looks for idiots to do his dirty work, using code words.

 

Model35mech

(2,047 posts)
7. Smarter? I doubt it. I would go with more QUIET or maybe SILENT
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 02:42 PM
Apr 2024

This is America Version 2024. It's the politics of aggressive confrontation, what you can't win in elections or the courts, you try to win with intimidation by sociopaths.

Gone are the relatively halcyon past days of the politics of possibility, and far far gone are the days of the extremes finding compromises in the middle. Gone are the days of realizing democracy is supposed to be self-correcting. You make a mistake with a presidential election and that error only gets 4 years of freedom before he/she is stopped.

The Constitution was written to make radical legal change ratjer harder than easier in the hope that a harder process would prove more thoughtful and moderate, suitable to adjustment by later elections of different representatives open to corrective legislative action.

Now it's "Give me EVERYTHING I want, or face impeachment!!!!!!"

aeromanKC

(3,385 posts)
4. because he owned a "whole wall of deadly weapons."
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 02:25 PM
Apr 2024

I would say "owned" is now the appropriate word in that sentence. As in past tense now. 🤣

PatSeg

(49,305 posts)
5. Interesting that this supporter cares so much
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 02:36 PM
Apr 2024

about poor Trump's assets and properties. Does he think Trump gives a damn about his supporters' property? It is insane.

erronis

(15,994 posts)
22. trump's little alter-egos. Some real and some virtually just keyboard junkies.
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 03:53 PM
Apr 2024

Just like my little message here, it's so easy to fire off whatever is at the back of my brain or bottom of my heart.

Back in the old days, we'd have to write this on a piece of paper, fold it, insert into an envelope, affix a stamp, take it to the post office and mail it.

Instant anonymous spewing without cost is cheapening society.

PatSeg

(49,305 posts)
37. Yes, there would have been more effort involved
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 06:15 PM
Apr 2024

Some people wouldn't have bothered and certainly wouldn't want to waste a postage stamp just to vent nonsense.

Warpy

(112,248 posts)
17. You are missing the point
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 03:32 PM
Apr 2024

This sort of thing is entirely religious. To fundagelicals, TFG is at least sent by gawd. Some consider him the second coming. Soome consider him the Antichrist. All consider him key to their getting raptured on up to heaven so they'll have a good view of the rest of us getting tortured on earth before we're all cast into hell. Lovely people.

Anyone who attacks their fat slob in any way is the enemy of their god, who is the god of assisted living and can't do anything for himself, that's what the faithful are for. Hence, the death threats.

erronis

(15,994 posts)
34. How is a trumpist any different than a sports team fanatic?
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 05:07 PM
Apr 2024

They all buy! into the messaging and tune out anything that makes them think (cognitive dissonance.)

Same with religions. Same with people that develop a crush/hatred/aversion/etc. on someone or some other group.

Get people to buy into the message and you own them. They'll buy $200 tickets to a senseless game or tithe 10% to a stupid cult. And they can't be convinced otherwise.

electric_blue68

(15,962 posts)
51. As a bit of a sportswoman I find you seemingly equating drumphf fanatics with sports fanatics rather insulting. Sports..
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 11:29 PM
Apr 2024

fans are generally harmless, though there's no accounting for the yobs who trample each other to get into a soccer game! Geeeebz!
😲🙄😑😔

"Senseless game?" Pffttttt.

oldsoftie

(13,152 posts)
55. Thats a ridiculous analogy. There's ZERO wrong with rooting for a sports team
Wed Apr 3, 2024, 06:40 AM
Apr 2024

A game is only "senseless" if you dont care about sports. By your logic, buying a ticket to a concert or ANY event would also be "senseless". As a matter of fact, a lot of the MAGA crowd now refuse to buy tickets to a LOT of sporting events because they're "woke".
But OTOH, EVERYTHING is wrong with rooting for trump. Or the Dallas Cowboys.......

PatSeg

(49,305 posts)
38. That's true for a bunch of them,
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 06:19 PM
Apr 2024

though not all the Trump nuts are religious nuts. Some are just violent, disgruntled nuts looking for a good fight. Trump attracts all kinds.

Meanwhile, most of us would be thrilled to see ALL of them raptured up to wherever! Anywhere but here.

Warpy

(112,248 posts)
42. Yes, that would solve a lot of problems, I agree
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 07:06 PM
Apr 2024

I'd say most of the diehard fan club are hard core religious nutters. Others like the energy of his pep rallies for hate. Rich men want more tax cuts, they'll support any country but their own. Maybe if they're getting hosed by his vanity website stock, they'll change their tune, but I wouldn't count on it. Too many of them are in hock up to their eyeballs and only playing billionaire Another tax cut might keep them afloat for a few more years.

PatSeg

(49,305 posts)
43. Yes, I was thinking of the ones
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 07:23 PM
Apr 2024

who "like the energy of his pep rallies for hate." Their signs and clothing usually are full of obscenities, they love their big gaudy trucks, and they are more than likely to have a lot of military style guns stockpiled at home. You won't find them in church on Sunday with Trump's Born Again, waitin' for the Rapture followers.

Throw in those rich guys who don't give a damn about politics except when it benefits them. Trump certainly does have a talent for attracting very diverse people, though all of them are gullible except for the rich ones.

whathehell

(29,351 posts)
47. You really think all the support for Trump is religious?
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 09:24 PM
Apr 2024

If so, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,251 posts)
6. It's absolutely astonishing that people are willing to go to jail over something that would NEVER have
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 02:41 PM
Apr 2024

affected them in ANY way. You just can't explain the stupid.

SergeStorms

(19,222 posts)
14. A 26 year old....
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 03:12 PM
Apr 2024

"man", clearly displaying arrested development, probably another of Trump's "proud boys".
South of Buffalo, there lies some of the most right-wing territory in the country.
People see "New York" and think, "blue state". Not even close. The rural (dumb shit) areas of New York are as red as any other deep red areas in Texas or Oklahoma. Without New York's cities (NYC, Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse, Albany etc.) New York would be beet red.
It's alarming how red this state is in the rural (dumb shit) areas.

Elessar Zappa

(14,859 posts)
15. Rural areas are red everywhere (except maybe parts of New England).
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 03:17 PM
Apr 2024

But land doesn’t vote and the vast majority of our cities are blue and their suburbs purple.

Botany

(71,213 posts)
23. Pomeroy, OH and across the Ohio River in Mason, W.V. is as red as any area in America
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 04:04 PM
Apr 2024

So many places have been “dumbed down” by generations of racist anti education mouth breathers
who get poor quality public education, hate talk media, are worried that the government is gonna
come and get their guns, and/or that Bill Gates wants to follow some auto body repair by tracking
his movements via a micro chip that was put into the C-19 vaccines. These shits will vote against
their own best interests time after time because it feels good to them. We shouldn’t spend 1 dime
or 1 second in trying to get their votes because their brains are cooked and not unless they have a
life changing event death alone will stop their dendrites firing to produce their toxic thoughts.

Btw I forgot the crap they hear from their pastors. I was in North Central Virginia (Woodstock) in
the summer of ‘21 and the linkage between Trump and Christian Evangelicals was scary. Putin’s
installing Trump was meant to divide America and in that he has been successful.

erronis

(15,994 posts)
36. Having grown up in the Adirondacks - agree.
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 05:30 PM
Apr 2024

A couple of villages with a liberal flavor but the vast area is rural and red.

SergeStorms

(19,222 posts)
46. Rhiannon12866 lives over that way....
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 08:33 PM
Apr 2024

In the Lake George area.

A friend of mine went to Paul Smith's College in the Saranac/Lake Placid area, so I've been up that way quite a few times as well.

I'm located about 30 west of Rochester on the south shore of Lake Ontario.

There are pockets of blue located throughout the state, usually accompanyi ng college towns, but otherwise.....red, red, red. You know, you've seen it yourself.

Fritz Walter

(4,327 posts)
20. Wait for it...
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 03:41 PM
Apr 2024

It's just a matter of time until this lunatic's idol declares him to be a martyr -- to be forgiven on Day 1. Especially if "diaper Donny" tells his sheeple that donations would help this poor, martyred MAGAt, (but would actually flow into his own pocket).

I'll bet you half a peach that this will happen soon!

Ray Bruns

(4,287 posts)
19. "will kill you if you even dare to permanently steal Donald Trumps (sic) assets
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 03:39 PM
Apr 2024

As opposed to temporarily stealing them?

prodigitalson

(2,625 posts)
50. I swear tfg used the same adverb. I don't have the energy to go find it
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 10:00 PM
Apr 2024

but somewhere is his recent vomit he has referred to 'permanantly' losing trumpt tower.

Roc2020

(1,647 posts)
21. There are reasons why the Feds
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 03:46 PM
Apr 2024

put so many of the 1/6 terrorists in prison Before going after Trump. To let the cult followers know you will either be killed or put in prison for a long time if you terrorize in the name of Trump. If they didn't get the message the Feds will readily make an example. Like this latest brainiac.

SWBTATTReg

(22,828 posts)
27. Looks like 'dumb ass' (pardon the language) is going to get some time behind bars for threats against
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 04:25 PM
Apr 2024

officials. As if he didn't know that his emails are forever, and that the distribution of his email is literally everywhere.

How stupid can one be?

He got seven years? I guess that this is long enough, but these sorts of people need to realize that threatening people online is the same as calling someone on the phone, or via a letter, and threatening them. He also needs to get time for being literally too stupid. But, IMHO, these sorts of people end up killing themselves w/ some dumb antic anyways, so no need to worry, they'll do themselves in.

Justice matters.

(7,150 posts)
31. All that stochastic terrorism spread by criminal-defendant-hitler2 wannabe is going to cost
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 04:39 PM
Apr 2024

a lot more to working-class taxpayers as budgets for prisons are increasing exponentially because of him LYING every word vomit he spews.

Anyone in the justice system cares about that? No (apparently).

soldierant

(7,439 posts)
40. I think releasing the name would be appropriate.
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 06:54 PM
Apr 2024

He faces a maximum of 7 years hard - he's likely to get even less ans when he is released, i want to know about it.

Ping Tung

(1,006 posts)
41. He should be worried that Trump may loan him one of his brilliant lawyers.
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 06:58 PM
Apr 2024

You know, the ones he never pays and fires after he blames them for his troubles.

Or, Trump might give him a $5 discount on his Bible and $7 off Golden Sneakers.

 

NanaCat

(2,332 posts)
44. Why use the clickbait garbage that is raw story
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 07:48 PM
Apr 2024

When they stole the story from legitimate sources, like this one:

https://www.wivb.com/news/crime/lancaster-man-accused-of-sending-death-threats-to-new-york-ag-judge-in-trump-civil-case/

I don't get why anyone with a brain would ever cite those worthless regurgitators.

Kablooie

(18,695 posts)
48. Trump counts on these imbeciles to do his dirty work for him.
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 09:28 PM
Apr 2024

They are his private army, ready to sacrifice their lives, stupidly, for him.

keithbvadu2

(38,166 posts)
52. If not Trump directly executing his 'enemies', he will indirectly encourage his followers to do it.
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 11:35 PM
Apr 2024

If not Trump directly executing his 'enemies', he will indirectly encourage his followers to do it.

electric_blue68

(15,962 posts)
53. Just the kind of hideousness drumphf induces in some people that I was mentioning in the thread about liberal parents...
Tue Apr 2, 2024, 11:39 PM
Apr 2024

complaining about drumphf "too much".

The "man" IS a mix of various negative isms, greedy, ignorant, violence loving, and violence stoking, and bufoonery!

He's still dangerous - which is why UNFORTUNATELY he can't be ignored! But paying too much attention isn't healthy either!

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