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Tue Apr 16, 2024, 08:39 PM Apr 16

Democrats Told CNN's Manu Raju They Will 'Save' Mike Johnson

Mike Johnson’s new plan has not been formally released yet, even as the speaker is trying to push it. And then what do those conservatives do? What do Marjorie Taylor Greene and Thomas Massie do? Do they actually call for that vote? They can do that. And they could force a vote within two legislative days. And then what will Democrats do? Will they actually save Johnson? There are some members of the House Democratic Caucus who have told me that they, in fact, will save Mike Johnson, especially if you move down the way they want him to move on Ukraine aid in particular.

So a key moment here for the speaker and the Republican majority, which is devolving into bitter infighting and chaos now threatening the second speaker after the first speaker, Kevin McCarthy, was ousted last fall in unprecedented fashion. Never before in American history has a speaker been kicked out by his own colleagues. Could the second speaker have to be kicked out? And now that is is an open question. Is Mike Johnson’s speakership now imperiled?

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Democrats Told CNN's Manu Raju They Will 'Save' Mike Johnson (Original Post) Enquiring_Mind Apr 16 OP
"especially" if he moves on Ukraine? senseandsensibility Apr 16 #1
Right - pay up dude lame54 Apr 16 #6
Marge ready to down Johnson Johonny Apr 16 #2
Yes, but the country needs governance... haele Apr 16 #4
If Mike wants to work with the Democrats, he might find it more productive bargaining in good faith Walleye Apr 16 #3
Interesting that the Dems in Congress want Cha Apr 16 #5


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4. Yes, but the country needs governance...
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 09:20 PM
Apr 16

Johnson is learning the lesson McCarthy forgot - don't lie on the petty stuff. Look at it this way...
If "Moses" wants to be able to stay on the Mountain to be able to bring his 15 - err, 10, 10 commandments down to the GOP masses, "Moses" has to listen and be honest with the talking burning bush that is the Democratic Party.
Otherwise, he's not going to be able to avoid the stone throwing from all sides of his party.
Honestly, Johnson is toast. Too right wing for the Chamber of Commerce types, his "particular" habits exposed to the nation for ridicule, and not crazy performative enough to appease the MAGA shit slingers.

As a country, we need to fund Ukraine and Taiwan. We need to get our national budget and internal funding straightened out. Maybe even get a Border bill out. Even Johnson is smart enough to realize there's a lot of issues other than the economy to figure out, and TFG opening his yap admitting in public that if he tells the GOP not to do their jobs, he's going to get re-elected.
If he goes along with Trump, he has a high risk of losing his plans for a Christian Nation to an ever dwindling base turned off by hypocrites, infighting and lack of an attempt at any sort of governance just to get a venal moron elected. He should know every time the Government shut down, the party that shut it down loses powered, no matter how bad the economy seems to the average person.

If he works honestly with the Democrats on normal secular business, his "moral" reputation still stands. He can claim he was still doing the People's Business while avoiding all those Satanic bills about gender or procreation Congress would be promoting if the Democrats were still in charge.
He might still remain viable in his district.

He has also seen the Democrats, even ones in purple districts, are united against Trumpism. Only a cult member will follow TFG's orders and not expect it to backfire on him. Since Massie has seconded Marge Traitor-Green, he should know by now his attempt to kiss TFG's golden ass at Mar-A-Lago failed.



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3. If Mike wants to work with the Democrats, he might find it more productive bargaining in good faith
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 09:16 PM
Apr 16

Johnson is so used to dealing with his dishonest caucus, he might get spoiled by negotiating with Democrats, who do keep their word


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5. Interesting that the Dems in Congress want
Tue Apr 16, 2024, 09:27 PM
Apr 16

to save Johnson but not Kev.

I hope MJ does want to make positive strides on Ukraine.

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