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NewHendoLib
(60,071 posts)KS Toronado
(17,866 posts)Per repug playbook.
PlutosHeart
(1,369 posts)"non-paper" issue. 🤣
peppertree
(22,079 posts)If those walls and that greasy little cell phone of hers could talk.
Docreed2003
(16,954 posts)🤣🤣
Trueblue1968
(17,322 posts)I say throw them in jail to all the bad people these days. I have turned into an MadWoman.
COL Mustard
(6,139 posts)Meeting up there? Inquiring minds want to know!
from her as usual
Kingofalldems
(38,618 posts)Ocelot II
(116,598 posts)or their lawyers.
ZonkerHarris
(24,461 posts)senseandsensibility
(17,585 posts)I am so sick of this.
republianmushroom
(14,659 posts)Besides if, it is OK for supreme court justices what not her ?
Arne
(2,625 posts)That is such a great phrase.
unblock
(52,875 posts)PatSeg
(48,425 posts)I wonder if those laws are actually enforced though.
Ford_Prefect
(8,013 posts)also face review by the court supervising their bench over unprofessional behavior of several kinds.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,424 posts)I could be wrong. I looked it up but Im not sure what this all means:
28 U.S. Code § 136 - Chief judges; precedence of district judges
U.S. Code
Notes
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(a)
(1) In any district having more than one district judge, the chief judge of the district shall be the district judge in regular active service who is senior in commission of those judges who
(A) are sixty-four years of age or under;
(B) have served for one year or more as a district judge; and
(C) have not served previously as chief judge.
(2)
(A) In any case in which no district judge meets the qualifications of paragraph (1), the youngest district judge in regular active service who is sixty-five years of age or over and who has served as district judge for one year or more shall act as the chief judge.
(B) In any case under subparagraph (A) in which there is no district judge in regular active service who has served as a district judge for one year or more, the district judge in regular active service who is senior in commission and who has not served previously as chief judge shall act as the chief judge.
(3)
(A) Except as provided in subparagraph (C), the chief judge of the district appointed under paragraph (1) shall serve for a term of seven years and shall serve after expiration of such term until another judge is eligible under paragraph (1) to serve as chief judge of the district.
(B) Except as provided in subparagraph (C), a district judge acting as chief judge under subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (2) shall serve until a judge has been appointed who meets the qualifications under paragraph (1).
(C) No district judge may serve or act as chief judge of the district after attaining the age of seventy years unless no other district judge is qualified to serve as chief judge of the district under paragraph (1) or is qualified to act as chief judge under paragraph (2).
(b) The chief judge shall have precedence and preside at any session which he attends.
Other district judges shall have precedence and preside according to the seniority of their commissions. Judges whose commissions bear the same date shall have precedence according to seniority in age.
(c) A judge whose commission extends over more than one district shall be junior to all district judges except in the district in which he resided at the time he entered upon the duties of his office.
(d) If the chief judge desires to be relieved of his duties as chief judge while retaining his active status as district judge, he may so certify to the Chief Justice of the United States, and thereafter, the chief judge of the district shall be such other district judge who is qualified to serve or act as chief judge under subsection (a).
(e) If a chief judge is temporarily unable to perform his duties as such, they shall be performed by the district judge in active service, present in the district and able and qualified to act, who is next in precedence.
FarPoint
(12,584 posts)She can take trips....I'm guessing there is much more to this claim...like being bought by someone???
vanlassie
(5,732 posts)magicarpet
(14,794 posts)... is not living large extravagant. Cannon has had bottles of ginger ale that cost twice as much.
BoRaGard
(610 posts)oldsoftie
(12,880 posts)AllaN01Bear
(19,917 posts)peppertree
(22,079 posts)And even then, in the worst cases.
brush
(54,526 posts)At one time such corruption would've taken her off high-profile cases and damaged her career.
Not so now with the crooked SCOTUS justices showing how it's done.
grumpyduck
(6,332 posts)Kid Berwyn
(15,609 posts)Social Cohesion & the Bohemian Grove
The Power Elite at Summer Camp
https://whorulesamerica.ucsc.edu/power/bohemian_grove.html
onetexan
(13,143 posts)I thought he was a liberal.
Kid Berwyn
(15,609 posts)Ken needs money to do his thing, as we all do who work to live.
https://www.propublica.org/article/clarence-thomas-secretly-attended-koch-brothers-donor-events-scotus
You know who may need real help is the young person at far right in the photo. It might be Clarence Thomas' ward, Mark Martin.
https://www.propublica.org/article/clarence-thomas-harlan-crow-private-school-tuition-scotus#:~:text=The%20boy%2C%20Mark%20Martin%2C%20was,raising%20him%20as%20a%20son.%E2%80%9D
tavernier
(12,518 posts)until I zoomed in. Didnt notice the stubble. Guess I need my glasses re-scripted.
Kingofalldems
(38,618 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,618 posts)MOMFUDSKI
(6,284 posts)How far can we ride this pony?
bucolic_frolic
(44,056 posts)Perfectly relevant question
czarjak
(11,544 posts)Part of the privilege. I've heard.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,322 posts)mahatmakanejeeves
(58,291 posts)When judges get free trips to luxury resorts, disclosure is spotty
MAY 1, 2024 5:08 AM ET
HEARD ON MORNING EDITION
By Tom Dreisbach, Carrie Johnson
{snip a whole bunch}
Which judges have disclosure problems?
Problems plagued the paperwork for judges appointed by presidents of both major parties going back decades, including Presidents Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Barack Obama and Donald Trump.
And the judges who failed to fully comply with the disclosure requirements include some notable names.
In this screenshot, Aileen Cannon speaks during a Senate Judiciary Committee nomination hearing to be a U.S. district judge for the Southern District of Florida on July 29, 2020. She was appointed to the position later that year.
U.S. Senate via AP
Judge Aileen Cannon of the Southern District of Florida is presiding over former President Donald Trump's criminal trial for allegedly mishandling classified documents. Cannon, herself a Trump appointee, attended two seminars at a luxury resort in Montana, but the privately funded seminar disclosures for both events were not posted online until NPR began making inquiries. Clerk of court Angela Noble told NPR in an email that the absence of the disclosures was due to technical issues and that "Any omissions to the website are completely inadvertent."
Judge Robert Conrad is the director of the Administrative Office of the U.S. Courts.
U.S. Courts
Judge Robert Conrad is the current director of the Administrative Office of the U.S. Courts, which implements the policies of the federal judiciary. Conrad, who was appointed by George W. Bush to the Western District of North Carolina, attended three privately funded seminars from 2021 to 2023. He later included the events on his annual financial disclosure but did not file a publicly available disclosure for any of those events within the required 30-day time limit. "He inadvertently did not make the additional disclosure in the separate system for private seminar attendance," said Peter Kaplan, a spokesperson for the Administrative Office. "Judge Conrad appreciates your bringing this oversight to his attention."
Judge Leslie Gardner of the Middle District of Georgia, who is the sister of prominent Georgia Democrat Stacey Abrams, also failed to file a privately funded seminar disclosure on time. Additionally, NPR found that Gardner omitted the reimbursements she received for lodging, meals and travel on her annual financial disclosure. In a phone call to NPR, clerk of court David Bunt said that Gardner, an Obama appointee, was updating her annual financial disclosure and privately funded seminar disclosure, which were incomplete due to an "oversight."
"I don't have really an excuse for it, and I'm going to correct it"
Judges contacted by NPR largely described the issues with their disclosures as the result of an "inadvertent oversight" or an "accident." In a handful of cases, court clerks blamed technical issues with the online system for uploading paperwork. One judge appeared to be unaware of the requirement to file a disclosure report within 30 days. Several judges thanked NPR for contacting them and prompting them to update their disclosure reports.
{snip}
mountain grammy
(26,782 posts)he could hire half the working class to kill the other half..
So much cheaper and easier to buy judges.
dchill
(38,739 posts)Not really, but lying is okay, right?
RockRaven
(15,292 posts)upon them from the outside for such a failure/violation?
bluestarone
(17,375 posts)RECUSE herself from this mess.
calimary
(81,993 posts)Staying in place and gambling that the donald gets back into the White House? Because if she's been a "friendly," who knows? The next step (or steps) up the ladder might find her positioned for the Supreme Court whenever that next opening happens.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,630 posts)Having TFG in the WH would be repaid a 1,000x their investment.
She can find some questionable reason to dismiss Trump's case "with prejudice" (i.e., the case can't be brought again -- double jeopardy). Once the result is finalized, she can retire from the bench, collect her reward (which will be structured to be untaxable), and live the rest of her life in luxury. To hell with what the majority thinks about her -- she'll be in the Rich People's Club, where members are never held to account for their misdeeds.
Plus, she'll be paid to give speeches to the MAGA faithful about how TFG was being tried unjustly by a corrupt DOJ.
Just when I think I can't get more cynical, something like this happens.
Farmer-Rick
(10,395 posts)How nondescript evil looks like. They don't have horns or pitchforks. They have normal looking faces. Only when they interact with others do you recognize them for the monsters they are.
And ...they sell themselves for cheap.
You would have to give me a whole lot more than a luxury vacation or 2, or a luxury RV, if you wanted me to sell out my integrity, democracy and my country. These judges come cheap.
Ponietz
(3,173 posts)The local school finance administrators addicted to gambling take more than that.
Martin68
(23,415 posts)Ocelot II
(116,598 posts)bringthePaine
(1,788 posts)WestMichRad
(1,379 posts)Oopsie!
yonder
(9,719 posts)Presumably
Scrivener7
(51,219 posts)Blue Owl
(51,197 posts)Traildogbob
(9,081 posts)From GQP to take over the country is like a brain tumor, with a mile of fibrous tentacles deep into every single cell. I see no way to remove it now without massive damage. But we gotta find a way.
Maybe eliminate the carcinogen that feeds it, Fox and Murdock.
BeyondGeography
(39,437 posts)Fixed.
Freethinker65
(10,181 posts)BoRaGard
(610 posts)Disgusting.
jalan48
(13,984 posts)triron
(22,106 posts)OnDoutside
(20,004 posts)🙄
Ping Tung
(944 posts)that caused the "technical issues".
diane in sf
(3,933 posts)Tetrachloride
(8,023 posts)Attilatheblond
(2,519 posts)Hats with bacon hat bands do well in bear country.
Sneederbunk
(14,414 posts)onetexan
(13,143 posts)Get her outta there!! Assign another judge!
Joinfortmill
(14,800 posts)surfered
(847 posts)jalan48
(13,984 posts)calimary
(81,993 posts)thatll be all shed need. Especially since he knows shes young enough to last for DECADES.
THATS why we need to END lifetime appointments for Supreme Court justices. As soon as possible!
MyOwnPeace
(16,988 posts)HIM getting back in is PROBLEM NUMBER ONE!!!!!!!!
Quixote1818
(29,221 posts)Tree Lady
(11,616 posts)given to them except friends and family and make sure those gifts weren't given by others.
How could you not be influenced by this???
TexasDem69
(2,075 posts)Tree Lady
(11,616 posts)Cannon in cases.
TexasDem69
(2,075 posts)Who funded the trip. Judges accept gifts they just have to disclose them. Sounds like she might not have for these 2 trips but even that is unclear
Tree Lady
(11,616 posts)just my personal opinion its not a good idea, who is to say these people who bought you a gift or trip wouldn't come back years later requesting help for a friend?
TexasDem69
(2,075 posts)Im just not seeing anything that remotely ties these two seminars to anything Trump has done
Cha
(299,269 posts)WiVoter
(953 posts)Whenever I see her creepy face.
Kid Berwyn
(15,609 posts)TexasDem69
(2,075 posts)And it sounds like she might have actually disclosed them. But even if she didnt, why are people calling for her to recuse from the Trump case? Theres nothing saying Trump paid for these two trips. The article plainly states that a foundation associated with George Mason University paid for the trips. What does that have to do with Trump?
Kingofalldems
(38,618 posts)TexasDem69
(2,075 posts)How is Trump implicated in this? Do you have ANY evidence he funded this trip? Multiple judges attended, do they all have to recuse? Id welcome any argument you have that isnt just conspiracy-theory nonsense, because not a single post in this thread has tied these seminars to Trump
Kingofalldems
(38,618 posts)in the US. Supreme Court already compromised and now there is smoke in the entire Federal Court System. I choose not to be ruled entirely by people like Leonard Leo. How about you?
senseandsensibility
(17,585 posts)right?
TexasDem69
(2,075 posts)That should be crystal clear and undisputed, and yet people here are using this story to call for Cannons recusal. Its nonsense, its silly, its unsupported, and it makes Democrats look bad.
I have seen zero evidence that the Supreme Court is compromised. Has it issued some recent ruling that suggests any justice is being paid off? The closest thing to a legitimate argument Ive seen is that Thomas should recuse from any January 6 cases, but thats it. And his wife hasnt been charged with a single crime and isnt involved in a case before the court so even that is a stretch.
And judges across the political spectrum attend these seminars and fail to disclose, including Stacey Abrams sister.
Leonard Leo isnt the bogeyman you claim he is, just like George Soros isnt the bogeyman the right claims he is. I prefer to stay grounded and am not a big believer in conspiracy theories.
bluestarone
(17,375 posts)YOU lean a LOT in the direction of Cannon and TFG!! Most people on this site are WAY different that YOU! Almost to the point that YOU are on the wrong site.
triron
(22,106 posts)TBF
(32,305 posts)you don't need a tinfoil hat to understand Clarence Thomas's corruption.
A google search brings up all the allegations - here is just one to start with (from NPR, which is hardly a conspiracy rag) -
https://www.npr.org/2023/04/24/1171343472/justice-thomas-gifts-scandal-highlights-double-standard-for-ethics-in-government
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onenote
(43,246 posts)Including Stacey Abrams' sister?
NPR identified some 40 instances where, like Cannon, a judge failed to make a required 30-day report after attending a privately funded seminar. It also found a dozen or so instances where judges failed to include costs that they were reimbursed for such seminars on their annual financial report -- Cannon was not involved in any of those instances.
My suggestion is that before setting a fire that can blow back -- for example putting Clinton and Obama appointees in jeopardy -- you gather all of the information, such as reading the NPR report.
bobalew
(325 posts)Of the discussed judges all together as an amorphous group, in order to determine motive, etc. As long as you defend Judge Cannon, who has shown a definite bias towards Trump, some us may view you just bit unfavorably
onenote
(43,246 posts)The NPR report indicated that Cannon didn't timely file a 30 day reports but did file the annual disclosure that provided information on the financial benefit she received and the source. Judge Gardner did not. See, you're just inviting that comparison, one that will blow back and harm good judges appointed by Democratic presidents. You don't seem to care about that. You're happy to burn down the barn to get rid of one rat.
As for not being viewed favorably by someone who doesn't think through things--well, I'll live.
Wounded Bear
(59,051 posts)Attilatheblond
(2,519 posts)Evolve Dammit
(17,093 posts)mucifer
(23,734 posts)live love laugh
(13,387 posts)reACTIONary
(5,820 posts)onenote
(43,246 posts)It's embarrassing.
TBF
(32,305 posts)Pas-de-Calais
(9,930 posts)liberal N proud
(60,420 posts)Just saying!
duckworth969
(814 posts)duckworth969
(814 posts)Easy to connect the dots.
George Mason U. seminars are privately funded by corporations and wealthy donors such as an including the Kochs.
From NPR interview:
we did contact George Mason to ask about all this. They did not answer our specific questions, but they did say, you know, very pointedly that these events are paid for with private money, not state funding. Their website lists donors that include big corporations like Amazon and Pfizer, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, and also the conservative billionaire Charles Koch.
pansypoo53219
(21,098 posts)AdamGG
(1,318 posts)Clarence Thomas on the Supreme Court.
Fuck these entitled corrupt assholes who are eroding our democracy. I would like to see some good investigative journalists look into the process of how Aileen Cannon was the federal judge in Florida who was assigned to this case. I doubt that it was random luck.
Wednesdays
(17,747 posts)Scalded Nun
(1,264 posts)onenote
(43,246 posts)The actual report tells a much different story than what many of the posters here assume to be the case, and their posts are rather embarrassing as a result. https://www.npr.org/2024/05/01/1247512187/federal-judges-disclosures-luxury-trips
For those that want to know what the report found -- and I suspect many of the posters steadfastly don't want to know the facts -- here are the pertinent parts of the report:
The applicable rules require judges to file a report within 30 days of attending a privately funded seminar and also to included information about any reimbursements they received for costs of such events on their annual financial disclosure form
In nearly 40 instances, judges attended events at luxury resorts but failed to properly file a report within 30 days. Judge Cannon was one of those judges failing to timely file the 30-day report.
In 13 cases, NPR found that judges failed to declare the benefits they received on their annual financial disclosure forms. Cannon was not identified by NPR as having failed to timely file her annual disclosure or as having failed to include the costs of the seminars she attended.
And, in another dozen cases, judges' financial disclosures for 2021 or 2022 were simply unavailable to the public. By all accounts, judges are filing those annual disclosure reports on time. The Administrative Office of the U.S. Courts bears responsibility for posting those reports online and has acknowledged delays in getting the system up to date.
According to NPR, there is no indication that the judges intentionally withheld information in order to deceive the public. And the office that administers the annual financial disclosure website told NPR that it struggles to work through a backlog of reports as well as requests for redactions to protect judges' safety, but is making progress.
Significantly, problems plagued the paperwork for judges appointed by presidents of both major parties going back decades, including Presidents Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Barack Obama and Donald Trump.
In short, singling out Cannon is a tricky business since she was one of over 3 dozen judges who failed to file a required report on time -- a list that also includes judges appointed by Democratic presidents, including Clinton and Obama. As a result, calls for her to recuse herself find no basis in the NPR report -- which would be obvious to those making those calls if they had bothered to read the report.
calimary
(81,993 posts)as a pin cushion. Cant say its not deserved, though.
Bluethroughu
(5,259 posts)onenote
(43,246 posts)Do you really want Clinton and Obama judges who did the same thing removed from the bench?
Bluethroughu
(5,259 posts)Yes, remove them too.
We need a judiciary that holds up the law, not finds ways to circumvent it to whom they choose.
onenote
(43,246 posts)To quote the NPR report: "There is no indication that the judges intentionally withheld information in order to deceive the public."
And does it matter to you that while both Cannon and Judge Leslie Gardner -- Abrams sister -- failed to timely submit the 30-day report after attending a privately funded seminar, NPR found that Cannon timely and fully submitted the annual financial disclosure report regarding the seminars she attended while Judge Gardner did not.
It's easy to overreact to stories and then discover it's better to collect all the facts before jumping to conclusions.
spanone
(136,229 posts)I am
spanone
(136,229 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,618 posts)Response to Kingofalldems (Original post)
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Be The Light
(39 posts)58Sunliner
(4,515 posts)These corrupted asshats are enraging.
aggiesal
(9,047 posts)malaise
(270,695 posts)How many judges are owned by billionaires?
The entire system is corrupt
Kingofalldems
(38,618 posts)See the video in the OP.