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Looks like Judge Cannon in a bit of a pickle: (Original Post) Kingofalldems May 4 OP
Is being a corrupt dumbass a technical issue? NewHendoLib May 4 #1
Her pen running out of ink is a technical issue. KS Toronado May 4 #25
She submits everything as a PlutosHeart May 4 #43
And of course, knows not to leave a paper trail peppertree May 5 #124
Only because she's technically corrupt...and a dumbass Docreed2003 May 4 #35
Hard Ass " Judge " ... TrueBlue 1968 says .... Throw the CANNON in the slammer for 8 years Trueblue1968 May 4 #83
Were she and Clarence COL Mustard May 4 #95
BS Rebl2 May 4 #2
Might be the impetus to get her removed from the case. Kingofalldems May 4 #3
Not likely, unless somehow it's related to the case or to any of the parties Ocelot II May 4 #14
did anyone who paid for her trips also donate to trump? ZonkerHarris May 4 #36
Really that should be enough senseandsensibility May 4 #58
The "technical issues", was that the puppet master strings got tangled. republianmushroom May 4 #4
Tangled strings, Arne May 4 #9
I believe there are laws in this area that apply to federal judges, but Supreme Court justices are exempt. unblock May 4 #16
Yes, that's what I was going to say PatSeg May 4 #48
Federal Judges outside of SCOTUS are regulated as to ethics, appearance of conflict, and other such faux pas. They can Ford_Prefect May 4 #26
If I'm not mistaken, the ChiefJudge has more authority over her than Roberts has over the rest of the scumbags Hassin Bin Sober May 4 #40
Is this leading to some billionaire paying her way? FarPoint May 4 #5
For a very junior judge. Hmmmm...... vanlassie May 4 #31
$700.00 a bottle champagne,... magicarpet May 4 #6
Is that what the billionaires are serving their RepubliPuppets? BoRaGard May 4 #42
Its funny these people think the price makes it taste better. nt oldsoftie May 5 #113
paid luxuray trips ? snork recurse the alpha hotel AllaN01Bear May 4 #7
Third world jurisprudence in the flesh peppertree May 4 #84
Another crooked repug judge being wined and dined by repug billionaires. brush May 4 #8
Oops! grumpyduck May 4 #10
Groomed for Greatne$$ Kid Berwyn May 4 #11
Is that Ken Burns in the middle? onetexan May 4 #78
Yes. Explains "Baseball" leaving out Hispanic players. Kid Berwyn May 4 #82
Omg, i honestly thought it was a lady tavernier May 5 #118
I am sure the MAGAts will soon declare her innocence ....... Kingofalldems May 4 #12
And they did. Kingofalldems May 4 #69
Hoo Boy! MOMFUDSKI May 4 #13
So ... WHAT IS SHE NOT DECLARING FROM BILLIONAIRES NOW??? bucolic_frolic May 4 #15
It'sasecret! czarjak May 4 #87
Same billionaire that keeps Thomas as a pet? Bernardo de La Paz May 4 #17
From NPR: mahatmakanejeeves May 4 #18
A rich man (Jay Gould) once said mountain grammy May 4 #19
All smoothed over if you just recuse! dchill May 4 #20
Can anyone point to the last time a federal judge had a consequence imposed RockRaven May 4 #21
Just saying, IF she's smart, she will bluestarone May 4 #22
Unless she's angling for the long game. calimary May 4 #51
There's probably a multi-million dollar gift from her benefactors in her future. LastLiberal in PalmSprings May 4 #77
It always amazes me Farmer-Rick May 4 #23
Henry Cuellar sold himself cheap at $600,000 Ponietz May 5 #120
Oops! Is this more fallout from the Clarence Thomas bribery scandal? Martin68 May 4 #24
Maybe not related directly, but looks like more of the same "ethics." Ocelot II May 4 #28
bias/buy ass🤡👍time to recuse fuckhead bringthePaine May 4 #27
Technical issues, like not knowing the law? WestMichRad May 4 #29
Presumably their knowledge in matters of law would extend to requirements for their position. yonder May 4 #30
Now, whose job is it to sanction them for this? Scrivener7 May 4 #32
Paging Jack Smith.... Paging Jack Smith.... Blue Owl May 4 #33
The damn corruption Traildogbob May 4 #34
"Any pretense of impartiality in my courtroom is completely inadvertent." BeyondGeography May 4 #37
Trump could call for her removal and get his delay that way? Freethinker65 May 4 #38
Republicans for sale BoRaGard May 4 #39
Maybe the media will go after her like they did Fani Willis. We demand receipts and info on sexual activities! jalan48 May 4 #41
Holding my breath. triron May 5 #119
Sure we all partied..... OnDoutside May 4 #44
Maybe she should hire Kristi Noem to resolve the issue of the dog who ate the travel receipts. Ping Tung May 4 #45
Are there enforceable ethics rules for courts below the Supremes? diane in sf May 4 #46
Rocky Mountain pickles Tetrachloride May 4 #47
Montana, ay? Can I send her one of my special hats for her next trip? Attilatheblond May 4 #49
Come on Aileen. Sneederbunk May 4 #50
And whoare the billionaires bankrollong her trips? onetexan May 4 #52
Good. Remove her from the case Joinfortmill May 4 #53
Being groomed for the Supreme Court... surfered May 4 #54
Absolutely. jalan48 May 4 #63
That's what I'm dreading. If her "idol" gets back in the White House, calimary May 4 #74
Actually, her being a 'candidate' should be one of the lesser problems...... MyOwnPeace May 4 #93
Well, this explains everything! LOL Any tiny bit of faith in humanity is nearly gone! K and R nt Quixote1818 May 4 #55
No judges should be allowed to have any gifts Tree Lady May 4 #56
Influenced to do what? TexasDem69 May 4 #60
Let people off or help them like Tree Lady May 4 #61
But there's nothing in the story suggesting she ruled in favor of anyone TexasDem69 May 4 #62
I know its not a law not to Tree Lady May 4 #65
That's fine as a general matter TexasDem69 May 4 #67
Must she look so Creepy! "Who else wants Cannon Impeached? Cha May 4 #57
I Wish Was Good At Photoshop ... I See A Unibrow WiVoter May 4 #89
Judge I. Lean Bannon Kid Berwyn May 5 #114
So I read the article TexasDem69 May 4 #59
If you don't see it, no reason to even respond. Kingofalldems May 4 #64
Care to enlighten me? TexasDem69 May 4 #66
Billionaires aligned with Trump trying to harness ALL power Kingofalldems May 4 #68
Those billionaires contributed to cheato senseandsensibility May 4 #72
"Billionaires" doesn't equal Trump TexasDem69 May 4 #73
One thing for sure bluestarone May 4 #75
I'm with you. triron May 5 #127
"I have seen zero evidence that the Supreme Court is compromised" TBF May 4 #86
This message was self-deleted by its author Ponietz May 5 #121
Does it bother you that NPR also identified reporting failures by appointees of Presidents Clinton and Obama? onenote May 4 #101
Perhaps you should focus on the event, amount paid, AND Who paid for it rather than lumping everyone bobalew May 5 #111
You want to focus on the event -- here you go. onenote May 5 #116
Working on her USSC bona fides, I see... Wounded Bear May 4 #70
Technical difficulties? Like she thought she was already on the SCOTUS and didn't have to report such freebies? Attilatheblond May 4 #71
How about an investigation into how this might impair judgement; and isn't Clarence overdue? WTF America? Evolve Dammit May 4 #76
IF this gets resolved I bet it happens after the election. It might not matter then mucifer May 4 #79
Another Clarence. live love laugh May 4 #80
The original NPR investigation... reACTIONary May 4 #81
Which apparently almost no-one posting in this thread has bothered to read. onenote May 4 #96
So shocking ... TBF May 4 #85
Ignorance of the law and all that rot Pas-de-Calais May 4 #88
That's bigger than an affair with a colleague liberal N proud May 4 #90
Yep. I'll bet if folks keep digging, they'll find more corruption duckworth969 May 4 #91
George Mason University & Koch Brothers duckworth969 May 4 #92
IOKIYAR RULES!!! whoooooo! pansypoo53219 May 4 #94
So, I guess this qualifies her to succeed... AdamGG May 4 #97
K&R. nt Wednesdays May 4 #98
Getting a little ahead of herself, isn't she? She is not on a SCOTUS bench seat yet. Scalded Nun May 4 #99
APPARENTLY ALMOST NO ONE COMMENTING IN THIS THREAD HAS READ THE NPR REPORT. onenote May 4 #100
Others have failed this, too, but she's taken on a higher profile calimary May 4 #102
Remove her from the bench, she is a law breaker. Bluethroughu May 4 #103
Does that apply to the several dozen other judges who failed to make a timely report? onenote May 4 #104
If they didn't disclose vacations and other goods? Bluethroughu May 4 #105
So you'd dump Stacey Abrams sister for something NPR's investigation concluded was not a big deal onenote May 4 #108
Who does she think she is, Clarence Thomas? spanone May 4 #106
Or Sam malaise May 5 #123
Bwahahahahahaaa... spanone May 5 #125
Might be a contest on ---who can get the most. Kingofalldems May 5 #126
This message was self-deleted by its author spanone May 4 #107
Recuse!! Be The Light May 5 #109
When do we meet up with pitchforks?!! 58Sunliner May 5 #110
She techinically tried to hide it. I get it. n/t aggiesal May 5 #112
She"d lock you up for less malaise May 5 #115
No question. Kingofalldems May 5 #122
could that be a fusillade of pickles?.........anybody? jaxexpat May 5 #117

peppertree

(22,079 posts)
124. And of course, knows not to leave a paper trail
Sun May 5, 2024, 11:56 AM
May 5

If those walls and that greasy little cell phone of hers could talk.

Trueblue1968

(17,322 posts)
83. Hard Ass " Judge " ... TrueBlue 1968 says .... Throw the CANNON in the slammer for 8 years
Sat May 4, 2024, 05:37 PM
May 4

I say throw them in jail to all the bad people these days. I have turned into an MadWoman.

republianmushroom

(14,659 posts)
4. The "technical issues", was that the puppet master strings got tangled.
Sat May 4, 2024, 12:31 PM
May 4

Besides if, it is OK for supreme court justices what not her ?

unblock

(52,875 posts)
16. I believe there are laws in this area that apply to federal judges, but Supreme Court justices are exempt.
Sat May 4, 2024, 12:56 PM
May 4

Ford_Prefect

(8,013 posts)
26. Federal Judges outside of SCOTUS are regulated as to ethics, appearance of conflict, and other such faux pas. They can
Sat May 4, 2024, 01:33 PM
May 4

also face review by the court supervising their bench over unprofessional behavior of several kinds.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,424 posts)
40. If I'm not mistaken, the ChiefJudge has more authority over her than Roberts has over the rest of the scumbags
Sat May 4, 2024, 02:05 PM
May 4

I could be wrong. I looked it up but I’m not sure what this all means:

28 U.S. Code § 136 - Chief judges; precedence of district judges
U.S. Code
Notes
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(a)
(1) In any district having more than one district judge, the chief judge of the district shall be the district judge in regular active service who is senior in commission of those judges who—
(A) are sixty-four years of age or under;
(B) have served for one year or more as a district judge; and
(C) have not served previously as chief judge.
(2)
(A) In any case in which no district judge meets the qualifications of paragraph (1), the youngest district judge in regular active service who is sixty-five years of age or over and who has served as district judge for one year or more shall act as the chief judge.
(B) In any case under subparagraph (A) in which there is no district judge in regular active service who has served as a district judge for one year or more, the district judge in regular active service who is senior in commission and who has not served previously as chief judge shall act as the chief judge.
(3)
(A) Except as provided in subparagraph (C), the chief judge of the district appointed under paragraph (1) shall serve for a term of seven years and shall serve after expiration of such term until another judge is eligible under paragraph (1) to serve as chief judge of the district.
(B) Except as provided in subparagraph (C), a district judge acting as chief judge under subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (2) shall serve until a judge has been appointed who meets the qualifications under paragraph (1).
(C) No district judge may serve or act as chief judge of the district after attaining the age of seventy years unless no other district judge is qualified to serve as chief judge of the district under paragraph (1) or is qualified to act as chief judge under paragraph (2).
(b) The chief judge shall have precedence and preside at any session which he attends.
Other district judges shall have precedence and preside according to the seniority of their commissions. Judges whose commissions bear the same date shall have precedence according to seniority in age.

(c) A judge whose commission extends over more than one district shall be junior to all district judges except in the district in which he resided at the time he entered upon the duties of his office.
(d) If the chief judge desires to be relieved of his duties as chief judge while retaining his active status as district judge, he may so certify to the Chief Justice of the United States, and thereafter, the chief judge of the district shall be such other district judge who is qualified to serve or act as chief judge under subsection (a).
(e) If a chief judge is temporarily unable to perform his duties as such, they shall be performed by the district judge in active service, present in the district and able and qualified to act, who is next in precedence.

FarPoint

(12,584 posts)
5. Is this leading to some billionaire paying her way?
Sat May 4, 2024, 12:33 PM
May 4

She can take trips....I'm guessing there is much more to this claim...like being bought by someone???

magicarpet

(14,794 posts)
6. $700.00 a bottle champagne,...
Sat May 4, 2024, 12:34 PM
May 4

... is not living large extravagant. Cannon has had bottles of ginger ale that cost twice as much.

brush

(54,526 posts)
8. Another crooked repug judge being wined and dined by repug billionaires.
Sat May 4, 2024, 12:36 PM
May 4

At one time such corruption would've taken her off high-profile cases and damaged her career.

Not so now with the crooked SCOTUS justices showing how it's done.

tavernier

(12,518 posts)
118. Omg, i honestly thought it was a lady
Sun May 5, 2024, 10:30 AM
May 5

until I zoomed in. Didn’t notice the stubble. Guess I need my glasses re-scripted.

mahatmakanejeeves

(58,291 posts)
18. From NPR:
Sat May 4, 2024, 01:07 PM
May 4
INVESTIGATIONS
When judges get free trips to luxury resorts, disclosure is spotty

MAY 1, 2024 • 5:08 AM ET
HEARD ON MORNING EDITION
By Tom Dreisbach, Carrie Johnson

{snip a whole bunch}

Which judges have disclosure problems?

Problems plagued the paperwork for judges appointed by presidents of both major parties going back decades, including Presidents Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Barack Obama and Donald Trump.

And the judges who failed to fully comply with the disclosure requirements include some notable names.


In this screenshot, Aileen Cannon speaks during a Senate Judiciary Committee nomination hearing to be a U.S. district judge for the Southern District of Florida on July 29, 2020. She was appointed to the position later that year.
U.S. Senate via AP

Judge Aileen Cannon of the Southern District of Florida is presiding over former President Donald Trump's criminal trial for allegedly mishandling classified documents. Cannon, herself a Trump appointee, attended two seminars at a luxury resort in Montana, but the privately funded seminar disclosures for both events were not posted online until NPR began making inquiries. Clerk of court Angela Noble told NPR in an email that the absence of the disclosures was due to technical issues and that "Any omissions to the website are completely inadvertent."


Judge Robert Conrad is the director of the Administrative Office of the U.S. Courts.
U.S. Courts

Judge Robert Conrad is the current director of the Administrative Office of the U.S. Courts, which implements the policies of the federal judiciary. Conrad, who was appointed by George W. Bush to the Western District of North Carolina, attended three privately funded seminars from 2021 to 2023. He later included the events on his annual financial disclosure but did not file a publicly available disclosure for any of those events within the required 30-day time limit. "He inadvertently did not make the additional disclosure in the separate system for private seminar attendance," said Peter Kaplan, a spokesperson for the Administrative Office. "Judge Conrad appreciates your bringing this oversight to his attention."

Judge Leslie Gardner of the Middle District of Georgia, who is the sister of prominent Georgia Democrat Stacey Abrams, also failed to file a privately funded seminar disclosure on time. Additionally, NPR found that Gardner omitted the reimbursements she received for lodging, meals and travel on her annual financial disclosure. In a phone call to NPR, clerk of court David Bunt said that Gardner, an Obama appointee, was updating her annual financial disclosure and privately funded seminar disclosure, which were incomplete due to an "oversight."

"I don't have really an excuse for it, and I'm going to correct it"

Judges contacted by NPR largely described the issues with their disclosures as the result of an "inadvertent oversight" or an "accident." In a handful of cases, court clerks blamed technical issues with the online system for uploading paperwork. One judge appeared to be unaware of the requirement to file a disclosure report within 30 days. Several judges thanked NPR for contacting them and prompting them to update their disclosure reports.

{snip}

mountain grammy

(26,782 posts)
19. A rich man (Jay Gould) once said
Sat May 4, 2024, 01:13 PM
May 4

he could hire half the working class to kill the other half..

So much cheaper and easier to buy judges.

RockRaven

(15,292 posts)
21. Can anyone point to the last time a federal judge had a consequence imposed
Sat May 4, 2024, 01:17 PM
May 4

upon them from the outside for such a failure/violation?

calimary

(81,993 posts)
51. Unless she's angling for the long game.
Sat May 4, 2024, 02:49 PM
May 4

Staying in place and gambling that the donald gets back into the White House? Because if she's been a "friendly," who knows? The next step (or steps) up the ladder might find her positioned for the Supreme Court whenever that next opening happens.

77. There's probably a multi-million dollar gift from her benefactors in her future.
Sat May 4, 2024, 05:05 PM
May 4

Having TFG in the WH would be repaid a 1,000x their investment.

She can find some questionable reason to dismiss Trump's case "with prejudice" (i.e., the case can't be brought again -- double jeopardy). Once the result is finalized, she can retire from the bench, collect her reward (which will be structured to be untaxable), and live the rest of her life in luxury. To hell with what the majority thinks about her -- she'll be in the Rich People's Club, where members are never held to account for their misdeeds.

Plus, she'll be paid to give speeches to the MAGA faithful about how TFG was being tried unjustly by a corrupt DOJ.

Just when I think I can't get more cynical, something like this happens.

Farmer-Rick

(10,395 posts)
23. It always amazes me
Sat May 4, 2024, 01:24 PM
May 4

How nondescript evil looks like. They don't have horns or pitchforks. They have normal looking faces. Only when they interact with others do you recognize them for the monsters they are.

And ...they sell themselves for cheap.

You would have to give me a whole lot more than a luxury vacation or 2, or a luxury RV, if you wanted me to sell out my integrity, democracy and my country. These judges come cheap.

Ponietz

(3,173 posts)
120. Henry Cuellar sold himself cheap at $600,000
Sun May 5, 2024, 10:36 AM
May 5

The local school finance administrators addicted to gambling take more than that.

Traildogbob

(9,081 posts)
34. The damn corruption
Sat May 4, 2024, 01:40 PM
May 4

From GQP to take over the country is like a brain tumor, with a mile of fibrous tentacles deep into every single cell. I see no way to remove it now without massive damage. But we gotta find a way.
Maybe eliminate the carcinogen that feeds it, Fox and Murdock.

jalan48

(13,984 posts)
41. Maybe the media will go after her like they did Fani Willis. We demand receipts and info on sexual activities!
Sat May 4, 2024, 02:06 PM
May 4

Ping Tung

(944 posts)
45. Maybe she should hire Kristi Noem to resolve the issue of the dog who ate the travel receipts.
Sat May 4, 2024, 02:29 PM
May 4

that caused the "technical issues".

Attilatheblond

(2,519 posts)
49. Montana, ay? Can I send her one of my special hats for her next trip?
Sat May 4, 2024, 02:43 PM
May 4

Hats with bacon hat bands do well in bear country.

calimary

(81,993 posts)
74. That's what I'm dreading. If her "idol" gets back in the White House,
Sat May 4, 2024, 04:13 PM
May 4

that’ll be all she’d need. Especially since he knows she’s young enough to last for DECADES.

THAT’S why we need to END lifetime appointments for Supreme Court justices. As soon as possible!

MyOwnPeace

(16,988 posts)
93. Actually, her being a 'candidate' should be one of the lesser problems......
Sat May 4, 2024, 08:14 PM
May 4

HIM getting back in is PROBLEM NUMBER ONE!!!!!!!!

Tree Lady

(11,616 posts)
56. No judges should be allowed to have any gifts
Sat May 4, 2024, 03:01 PM
May 4

given to them except friends and family and make sure those gifts weren't given by others.

How could you not be influenced by this???

TexasDem69

(2,075 posts)
62. But there's nothing in the story suggesting she ruled in favor of anyone
Sat May 4, 2024, 03:08 PM
May 4

Who funded the trip. Judges accept gifts they just have to disclose them. Sounds like she might not have for these 2 trips but even that is unclear

Tree Lady

(11,616 posts)
65. I know its not a law not to
Sat May 4, 2024, 03:12 PM
May 4

just my personal opinion its not a good idea, who is to say these people who bought you a gift or trip wouldn't come back years later requesting help for a friend?

TexasDem69

(2,075 posts)
67. That's fine as a general matter
Sat May 4, 2024, 03:14 PM
May 4

I’m just not seeing anything that remotely ties these two seminars to anything Trump has done

TexasDem69

(2,075 posts)
59. So I read the article
Sat May 4, 2024, 03:04 PM
May 4

And it sounds like she might have actually disclosed them. But even if she didn’t, why are people calling for her to recuse from the Trump case? There’s nothing saying Trump paid for these two trips. The article plainly states that a foundation associated with George Mason University paid for the trips. What does that have to do with Trump?

TexasDem69

(2,075 posts)
66. Care to enlighten me?
Sat May 4, 2024, 03:13 PM
May 4

How is Trump implicated in this? Do you have ANY evidence he funded this trip? Multiple judges attended, do they all have to recuse? I’d welcome any argument you have that isn’t just conspiracy-theory nonsense, because not a single post in this thread has tied these seminars to Trump

Kingofalldems

(38,618 posts)
68. Billionaires aligned with Trump trying to harness ALL power
Sat May 4, 2024, 03:19 PM
May 4

in the US. Supreme Court already compromised and now there is smoke in the entire Federal Court System. I choose not to be ruled entirely by people like Leonard Leo. How about you?

TexasDem69

(2,075 posts)
73. "Billionaires" doesn't equal Trump
Sat May 4, 2024, 03:29 PM
May 4

That should be crystal clear and undisputed, and yet people here are using this story to call for Cannon’s recusal. Its nonsense, it’s silly, it’s unsupported, and it makes Democrats look bad.

I have seen zero evidence that the Supreme Court is compromised. Has it issued some recent ruling that suggests any justice is being paid off? The closest thing to a legitimate argument I’ve seen is that Thomas should recuse from any January 6 cases, but that’s it. And his wife hasn’t been charged with a single crime and isn’t involved in a case before the court so even that is a stretch.

And judges across the political spectrum attend these seminars and fail to disclose, including Stacey Abrams’ sister.

Leonard Leo isn’t the bogeyman you claim he is, just like George Soros isn’t the bogeyman the right claims he is. I prefer to stay grounded and am not a big believer in conspiracy theories.

bluestarone

(17,375 posts)
75. One thing for sure
Sat May 4, 2024, 04:36 PM
May 4

YOU lean a LOT in the direction of Cannon and TFG!! Most people on this site are WAY different that YOU! Almost to the point that YOU are on the wrong site.

TBF

(32,305 posts)
86. "I have seen zero evidence that the Supreme Court is compromised"
Sat May 4, 2024, 06:20 PM
May 4

you don't need a tinfoil hat to understand Clarence Thomas's corruption.

A google search brings up all the allegations - here is just one to start with (from NPR, which is hardly a conspiracy rag) -
https://www.npr.org/2023/04/24/1171343472/justice-thomas-gifts-scandal-highlights-double-standard-for-ethics-in-government

Response to TexasDem69 (Reply #73)

onenote

(43,246 posts)
101. Does it bother you that NPR also identified reporting failures by appointees of Presidents Clinton and Obama?
Sat May 4, 2024, 10:56 PM
May 4

Including Stacey Abrams' sister?

NPR identified some 40 instances where, like Cannon, a judge failed to make a required 30-day report after attending a privately funded seminar. It also found a dozen or so instances where judges failed to include costs that they were reimbursed for such seminars on their annual financial report -- Cannon was not involved in any of those instances.

My suggestion is that before setting a fire that can blow back -- for example putting Clinton and Obama appointees in jeopardy -- you gather all of the information, such as reading the NPR report.

bobalew

(325 posts)
111. Perhaps you should focus on the event, amount paid, AND Who paid for it rather than lumping everyone
Sun May 5, 2024, 01:00 AM
May 5

Of the discussed judges all together as an amorphous group, in order to determine motive, etc. As long as you defend Judge Cannon, who has shown a definite bias towards Trump, some us may view you just bit unfavorably…

onenote

(43,246 posts)
116. You want to focus on the event -- here you go.
Sun May 5, 2024, 09:03 AM
May 5

The NPR report indicated that Cannon didn't timely file a 30 day reports but did file the annual disclosure that provided information on the financial benefit she received and the source. Judge Gardner did not. See, you're just inviting that comparison, one that will blow back and harm good judges appointed by Democratic presidents. You don't seem to care about that. You're happy to burn down the barn to get rid of one rat.

As for not being viewed favorably by someone who doesn't think through things--well, I'll live.

duckworth969

(814 posts)
92. George Mason University & Koch Brothers
Sat May 4, 2024, 07:40 PM
May 4

Easy to connect the dots.

George Mason U. seminars are privately funded by corporations and wealthy donors such as an including the Kochs.

From NPR interview: “…we did contact George Mason to ask about all this. They did not answer our specific questions, but they did say, you know, very pointedly that these events are paid for with private money, not state funding. Their website lists donors that include big corporations like Amazon and Pfizer, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, and also the conservative billionaire Charles Koch.”

AdamGG

(1,318 posts)
97. So, I guess this qualifies her to succeed...
Sat May 4, 2024, 09:10 PM
May 4

Clarence Thomas on the Supreme Court.

Fuck these entitled corrupt assholes who are eroding our democracy. I would like to see some good investigative journalists look into the process of how Aileen Cannon was the federal judge in Florida who was assigned to this case. I doubt that it was random luck.

onenote

(43,246 posts)
100. APPARENTLY ALMOST NO ONE COMMENTING IN THIS THREAD HAS READ THE NPR REPORT.
Sat May 4, 2024, 10:51 PM
May 4

The actual report tells a much different story than what many of the posters here assume to be the case, and their posts are rather embarrassing as a result. https://www.npr.org/2024/05/01/1247512187/federal-judges-disclosures-luxury-trips

For those that want to know what the report found -- and I suspect many of the posters steadfastly don't want to know the facts -- here are the pertinent parts of the report:

The applicable rules require judges to file a report within 30 days of attending a privately funded seminar and also to included information about any reimbursements they received for costs of such events on their annual financial disclosure form

In nearly 40 instances, judges attended events at luxury resorts but failed to properly file a report within 30 days. Judge Cannon was one of those judges failing to timely file the 30-day report.

In 13 cases, NPR found that judges failed to declare the benefits they received on their annual financial disclosure forms. Cannon was not identified by NPR as having failed to timely file her annual disclosure or as having failed to include the costs of the seminars she attended.

And, in another dozen cases, judges' financial disclosures for 2021 or 2022 were simply unavailable to the public. By all accounts, judges are filing those annual disclosure reports on time. The Administrative Office of the U.S. Courts bears responsibility for posting those reports online and has acknowledged delays in getting the system up to date.

According to NPR, there is no indication that the judges intentionally withheld information in order to deceive the public. And the office that administers the annual financial disclosure website told NPR that it struggles to work through a backlog of reports as well as requests for redactions to protect judges' safety, but is making progress.

Significantly, problems plagued the paperwork for judges appointed by presidents of both major parties going back decades, including Presidents Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Barack Obama and Donald Trump.

In short, singling out Cannon is a tricky business since she was one of over 3 dozen judges who failed to file a required report on time -- a list that also includes judges appointed by Democratic presidents, including Clinton and Obama. As a result, calls for her to recuse herself find no basis in the NPR report -- which would be obvious to those making those calls if they had bothered to read the report.

calimary

(81,993 posts)
102. Others have failed this, too, but she's taken on a higher profile
Sat May 4, 2024, 10:58 PM
May 4

as a pin cushion. Can’t say it’s not deserved, though.

onenote

(43,246 posts)
104. Does that apply to the several dozen other judges who failed to make a timely report?
Sat May 4, 2024, 11:00 PM
May 4

Do you really want Clinton and Obama judges who did the same thing removed from the bench?

Bluethroughu

(5,259 posts)
105. If they didn't disclose vacations and other goods?
Sat May 4, 2024, 11:03 PM
May 4

Yes, remove them too.

We need a judiciary that holds up the law, not finds ways to circumvent it to whom they choose.

onenote

(43,246 posts)
108. So you'd dump Stacey Abrams sister for something NPR's investigation concluded was not a big deal
Sat May 4, 2024, 11:18 PM
May 4

To quote the NPR report: "There is no indication that the judges intentionally withheld information in order to deceive the public."

And does it matter to you that while both Cannon and Judge Leslie Gardner -- Abrams sister -- failed to timely submit the 30-day report after attending a privately funded seminar, NPR found that Cannon timely and fully submitted the annual financial disclosure report regarding the seminars she attended while Judge Gardner did not.

It's easy to overreact to stories and then discover it's better to collect all the facts before jumping to conclusions.

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