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madaboutharry

(40,284 posts)
5. There are no settlements in Gaza.
Mon May 6, 2024, 02:33 PM
May 6

You need to keep up.

The settlements are in the West Bank, where there is currently not a war.

 

Happyone

(17 posts)
17. Incorrect
Mon May 6, 2024, 03:39 PM
May 6

As of May 2024, Israel has dismantled all 21 settlements in the Gaza Strip, as part of its disengagement from the area in 2005. The United Nations, international human rights organizations, and many legal scholars believe the Gaza Strip is still under military occupation by Israel, while Israel and other scholars dispute this.

Wikipedia:

thucythucy

(8,251 posts)
6. The Israeli settlers in Gaza were all removed in 2005,
Mon May 6, 2024, 02:37 PM
May 6

some forceably by the Israeli military:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_disengagement_from_Gaza

If you have evidence of Israeli settlements in Gaza that remain, please feel free to post the evidence.

 

ripcord

(5,553 posts)
15. They removed the settlers and gave Gaza to the Palestinians
Mon May 6, 2024, 03:10 PM
May 6

And they were thanked by decades of terror attacks.

Chautauquas

(4,455 posts)
7. Sounds good to me
Mon May 6, 2024, 02:39 PM
May 6

What do you think the odds are of that happening? Zero?

I'd be glad to see even the first two conditions met. Enough with all the bloodshed.

getagrip_already

(15,325 posts)
12. Hamas agreed to 1.5 of those.....
Mon May 6, 2024, 02:56 PM
May 6

They agreed to release the hostages and a cessation of fighting.

I doubt they will turn over weopons or surrender fighters.

But Netanyahu isn't agreeing even to these three terms.

He also wants gaza and Rapha emptied and resettled.

So there is a problem here, and his name is bibi.

LeftInTX

(26,270 posts)
20. Only 33 were going to be returned. Hamas said dead would be included as part of the 33.
Tue May 7, 2024, 02:39 AM
May 7

Israel is insisting that only live hostages be part of the deal.

Torchlight

(3,656 posts)
16. If it doesn't cost Hamas leadership money, it's possible.
Mon May 6, 2024, 03:28 PM
May 6

Hamas' three top leaders alone are worth a staggering total of $11 billion and enjoy a life of luxury in the sanctuary of the emirate of Qatar. I'd guess holding onto their "champagne wishes and caviar dreams" lifestyle is their primary, if not sole concern.

If peace results in a financial loss for them, I kinda think they'll just go on and on as is, and do the Energizer Bunny real proud.

applegrove

(119,537 posts)
18. And stop hiding behind civilians. Stop building a martyr culture.
Tue May 7, 2024, 02:22 AM
May 7

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Disband and allow other trusted entity to negotiate a 2 state solution with some other leader than Netanyahu and plan so your people can be free. If you come across some Israeli abandoned vegetable green houses in GAZA grow vegetables in them instead of destroying them, just to mix it up a bit.

Silent3

(15,619 posts)
19. Other than having a feel-good moment for yourself proposing that, what's the point?
Tue May 7, 2024, 02:26 AM
May 7

Since you know such terms would never be accepted, why even bring it up? As a way of justifying anything and everything Israel does if those impossible terms are not met?

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