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bucolic_frolic

(43,762 posts)
2. One wonders where Intelligence Agencies are hiding on this one
Wed May 8, 2024, 07:14 PM
May 8

as well as the Deep State. They're usually not ones to surrender turf and national security without a fight. So maybe something is in the works all along?

Igel

(35,435 posts)
3. Are courts about politics or justice?
Wed May 8, 2024, 07:32 PM
May 8

And is justice "what's morally right" or "about enforcing the laws Our Democracy has passed"?

I hear a lot about the public's right to a speedy trial. But the public has no right to a speedy trial. We. Do. Not. Matter.

And saying that the trial has to be before an election, because otherwise the election might go the wrong way is asking the judiciary to subordinate legal justice to a party's political aspirations to power. It attempts to coerce the judiciary, to "wrest" justice. Justice delayed is justice denied; justice rushed is justice buried. I'd add, "Justice yoked is justice enslaved."

Note that "speedy" has been redefined in there somewhere. It's there to keep a prosecutor from dumping a defendant in jail for a decade or two with no trial. It's not there to rush the defendant's trial--it's the defendant's right, to some extent s/he gets a say in the pacing, commensurate with what's appropriate so that the trial isn't delayed by a decade or more to ensure the defendant's freedom of action. It, like most constitutional rights, is a limit on governmental action. "Speedy" doesn't mean "hasty" when it's meant to benefit just the prosecution or looky-loos.

You don't gotta like Trump to like liberty. I think the modern US version of Anglo-Saxon law is questionable at times, but I have an aversion to modern EU versions of Roman law, and don't like yoked law. Then again, I just did Russian and Soviet crap, so what do I know about having the courts serve a party?

diva77

(7,726 posts)
7. And her decision came amidst the Stormy testimony and Johnson trying to shut down all of the Defendant's
Wed May 8, 2024, 08:50 PM
May 8

cases. Coincidence?????

Uncle Joe

(58,736 posts)
10. Now if Cannon had been presiding judge when Benedict Arnold tried to give the plans of West Point
Wed May 8, 2024, 09:47 PM
May 8

over to the British, he might as well just remained here and run for President.

Everybody today would be eating Eggs Washington.

Thanks for the thread AverageOldGuy.

Martin68

(23,198 posts)
11. Talk about a LEAK!
Wed May 8, 2024, 09:53 PM
May 8

This judge is a passport for leaks to foreign intelligence agencies. she should b investigated and indicted for violating the National Secrets Act.

onenote

(43,030 posts)
15. "Must"? Nope. They may have the power, but that doesn't mean they must use it. And unless Smith requests it, and
Wed May 8, 2024, 11:36 PM
May 8

there is no reason to think he will because he knows it would be a waste of time, demands by posters on social media are meaningless.

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