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RandySF

(61,467 posts)
Fri May 10, 2024, 08:06 PM May 10

DOJ seeks 40 years for the man who broke into Nancy Pelosi's home







Kyle Cheney
@kyledcheney
BREAKING: DOJ seeks *40 years* for the man who broke into Nancy Pelosi's home, sought to kidnap her and assaulted her husband. They want the court to label his crime an act of terrorism.
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MagickMuffin

(16,099 posts)
2. Well, it was indeed an act of terrorism
Fri May 10, 2024, 08:24 PM
May 10


Unfortunately, it wasn’t an act. This was real terrorism. Poor Paul woke up from sleep to be attacked in the head with a hammer by a deranged terrorist.

How about labeling it as domestic terrorism?




MagickMuffin

(16,099 posts)
7. Throw the book at him, lock him up, lose the keys
Fri May 10, 2024, 09:24 PM
May 10


Unfortunately, it wasn’t an act. This was real terrorism. Poor Paul woke up from sleep to be attacked in the head with a hammer by a deranged terrorist.

How about labeling it as domestic terrorism?




slightlv

(3,129 posts)
8. I agree it should be labeled as Domestic Terrorism.
Fri May 10, 2024, 09:46 PM
May 10

Those two words terrify politicians of all stripes, it seems. But we're never going to be able to do anything about it until we start calling it what it is!

And I'd vote for closer to 50 years for this guy. Not only was he not even involved with government, but he's a senior citizen. I'd think you could place this under a hate crime, as well, against the elderly.

soldierant

(7,154 posts)
12. The word "act" means a whole lot more that play-acting.
Fri May 10, 2024, 10:00 PM
May 10

In this case it is used in a legal sence meaning a thing someone did. And it was indeed an act od terrorism.

ShazzieB

(16,983 posts)
18. Calling what he did an "act" of terrorism doesn't mean he was just pretending.
Fri May 10, 2024, 10:48 PM
May 10

It means that what he did was terrorism.

chouchou

(762 posts)
10. Wonder if the person is "All there"
Fri May 10, 2024, 09:51 PM
May 10

Has he had a psych evaluation?
I only say this, is because there are people who are extremely mentally unstable and have never been diagnosed.
There's mean, cruel monsters and there's people who have brains that are horrible....and not their fault.

NJCher

(36,098 posts)
14. that's part of the system
Fri May 10, 2024, 10:27 PM
May 10

In some of the states where I've worked with people who were convicted, there is a complete workup of evaluations, profiles, etc., of the person and it all goes into a huge book with other information on the case.

However, I recall reading an article about this guy and it was one of those cases where he got sucked into the propaganda web they've so extensively created in this country.

wnylib

(22,238 posts)
20. I don't know about his mental health state,
Fri May 10, 2024, 11:02 PM
May 10

but he was determined, strong-willed, and defiant. He struck the blow after police arrived. Right in front of police, when told to let go of his weapon, he struck Paul Pelosi. It's like saying, "No. I came to injure and I will."

Angry that Nancy was not there. Angry that police were there. So, do as much harm as possible, quickly, before police could stop him.

I'd give the SOB life without parole. He's too dangerous to ever be free.


SarahD

(1,607 posts)
11. Terrorism?
Fri May 10, 2024, 09:55 PM
May 10

I don't see that, but it was kidnapping, assault, maybe attempted murder. That should add up to more than a week.

SarahD

(1,607 posts)
22. Maybe, but I think he's cuckoo.
Sat May 11, 2024, 02:36 AM
May 11

I remember he said and did things that would make it difficult to establish his exact motivation.

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