Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,811 posts)
Mon May 13, 2024, 02:07 PM May 13

America's most affordable travel option is disappearing

In today’s episode of eating the poor: Have you noticed your city’s bus terminal lately? No? That’s because it may no longer be there. Greyhound and other major private bus services are quietly vacating their terminals. Already the bus terminals in cities like Cincinnati, Louisville, Philadelphia, Houston, Portland, Charlottesville, and Tampa have shut down. Even ones that act as major hubs like Chicago and Dallas have disappeared. Hedge funds have been buying up the centrally located transit hubs for redevelopment purposes. It just happened again this past April in Cleveland.

Intra- and intercity bus service often go unnoticed by the general public but are critical for a significant portion of our population: most bus riders earn less than $40,000 annually and are disproportionately people of color, disabled, or unemployed. Bus lines provide a real, tangible benefit to millions of people and it's by far the most cost-effective way to travel, as flights are expensive and American trains provide limited service. However, bus service is consistently underfunded. This has led to fewer people being able to use the services, which have made terminals vulnerable to closures.

As a result, bus terminals have been closing at a rapid pace. Each closure unravels service for other city bus services and routes, and thus has caused a perpetuating death spiral for the whole industry. As disastrous as the terminal closures have been for the people who depend on bus service, their demise has been a gold mine for the investment firms that are acquiring them, usually in prime locations downtown, for pennies on the dollar.

It’s bad enough that hedge funds are buying up hundreds of thousands of starter homes across the nation just so they can gouge people on rent, but do they have to take away our mass transit options, too?

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/5/11/2226847/-America-s-most-affordable-travel-option-is-disappearing

15 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies

underpants

(183,267 posts)
1. Yep the one in Richmond is probably leaving downtown
Mon May 13, 2024, 02:11 PM
May 13

It’s zoned for condos too because if a tree falls in Richmond someone starts putting up condos.

So bus riders may have to Uber to the bus station I guess or get a ride.

mopinko

(70,535 posts)
4. we're maybe loosing ours in bloody chicago.
Mon May 13, 2024, 02:22 PM
May 13
A longtime Greyhound station in the southwest corner of Chicago’s Loop business district is for sale in a deal that could bring in a two-tower multifamily development with more than 1,100 units while leaving an uncertain future for bus riders in the city.

Connecticut-based Twenty Lake Holdings has hired JLL brokers to seek a sale of the 2-acre site at 608 W. Harrison St. as a redevelopment play.

Twenty Lake is believed to be seeking $30 million or more in a sale, most likely to a developer of apartments looking to ride the wave of billions of dollars in real estate investments in a once-sleepy pocket of the Loop along the high-traffic interchange of interstates 90, 94 and 290.

The site could be developed into a pair of apartment high-rises as tall as 450 feet with a combined 1,145 units, according to a preliminary massing study conducted by Solomon Cordwell Buenz and cited in JLL materials presented to prospective buyers.


https://www.costar.com/article/1912836388/greyhound-station-in-chicago-could-be-replaced-by-more-than-1100-apartments

we absolutely do not need any more downtown apts. there is an aggressive plan in the works to convert a bunch of office bldgs already and the mayor wants more.

and good lord willing and the creek dont rise, 1 of them will b tsf’s eyesore of a tower.
every time i look at it i remember that it was planned to b the new tallest bldg, then 9/11 happened.
most unremarkable bldg in the whole downtown.

MadameButterfly

(1,153 posts)
7. I can't believe there's no public funding for busses, and every time I hear the words hedge fund
Mon May 13, 2024, 02:35 PM
May 13

I know something that matters to the rest of us is being taken away.

I used to be annoyed with Bernie and ACO for calling themselves socialists because I thought it limited their potential and surely we needed capitalism for competition and innovation. But more and more i see the point. An economy dominated by rich people who are only in it for themselves will eventually destroy it for everyone else.

Maybe you don't have to call it socialism, but capitalism isn't working either. Maybe we need a new word. Culturalism, perhaps.
Under Culturalism, entities required for the public good are protected somehow from hedge funds and the like.

BlueTsunami2018

(3,529 posts)
6. The bus station is gone in Philly but you can still use the busses.
Mon May 13, 2024, 02:33 PM
May 13

They just have different pick up and drop off spots. I recently went up to Manhattan for a concert, $23 round trip.

Marcus IM

(2,325 posts)
8. Suddenly people don't like capitalism?
Mon May 13, 2024, 02:38 PM
May 13

Those hedge funds pay for retirements and nursing homes.

What's not to like?

So, a bunch of people get screwed over. What else is new?


It's a feature not a bug.



OMGWTF

(4,022 posts)
10. I had to take a Greyhound from Portland, Oregon to Centralia, Washington where the drop-off was at a gas station.
Mon May 13, 2024, 03:30 PM
May 13

The Greyhound station in Portland was the most depressing place I have ever been. There are hordes of homeless people camped out in front of the station and once you get inside, it's dark and very bleak looking. Then the bus was three hours late leaving because two drivers in a row didn't show up for work, so they had to drive someone to Portland from Seattle so he could drive the bus back to Seattle. The person in the ticket booth in Portland was unhelpful and any announcements on the PA system were a garbled mess so no one knew what was going on. The entire experience sucked.

JoseBalow

(2,817 posts)
11. And hitchhiking has been criminalized in most places
Mon May 13, 2024, 04:07 PM
May 13

The best cheapest options left anymore are bumming rides via the Craigslist rideshare community, and most people offering rides there are looking to get paid too much, under the guise of deferring their fuel expenses.

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,694 posts)
12. Hedge Funds
Mon May 13, 2024, 04:13 PM
May 13

need to fuck off and die already.

These are the true parasites of American Society, they don't own anything, they buy and sell and flip things for PROFIT!!!!

lastlib

(23,488 posts)
13. Shakespeare had the right idea, just the wrong group:
Mon May 13, 2024, 04:39 PM
May 13

"First thing we do, let's kill all the *billionaires*." There, I fixed it for him.

THEN we can go after the lawyers..... - - - -

Warpy

(111,587 posts)
14. It was the ONLY option for a lot of rural people
Mon May 13, 2024, 04:59 PM
May 13

and prices have been skyrocketing in recent years, going up with the price of fuel but never going back down again when energy prices did, funny how that works.

I think that's what's killing them off: greed. That's certainly not an isolated story, is it? We needed a windfall profits tax a long time ago, keep the rich from thinking windfall profits due to fluctuating energy prices were somehow normal.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,289 posts)
15. I used to take the bus when I was in college
Mon May 13, 2024, 05:03 PM
May 13

in the mid to late 70s. Got my wallet lifted once at the bus station. I didn't have credit cards and for some reason I had put my cash and drivers license in the front pocket of my jeans.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»America's most affordable...