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SouthernDem4ever

(6,618 posts)
Wed May 22, 2024, 02:55 PM May 22

"Amid campus protests, organizers with past ties to Hamas support also emerge"

from usatoday:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2024/05/22/gaza-student-protests-american-muslims-for-palestine/73775372007/

On Day 7 of the pro-Palestinian protests on the Columbia University campus, Osama Abuirshaid stopped by the student encampment.
The executive director of American Muslims for Palestine walked through the tent city, then made a fiery speech to the gathered crowd.

“This is not only a genocide that is being committed in Gaza,” Abuirshaid said. “This is also a war on us here in America.”

Forty-eight hours later, Abuirshaid appeared at another campus — George Washington University in Washington, D.C., where he delivered another speech. Osama Abuirshaid at a protest event at George Washington University in Washington, D.C., April 26, 2024.

Campus protests, which swept the country this spring, emerged as an outcry over the civilian death toll of the military campaign Israel launched in response to Hamas’ Oct. 7 attack. Most student protesters have sought to distance themselves from Hamas, which the United States designated as a terrorist entity in 1997.

But top members of Abuirshaid’s organization have complex connections to the campus protest movement. And Abuirshaid and others from American Muslims for Palestine were once employees or officials at another group tied to direct financial support for Hamas, USA TODAY found.

From 2002 to 2004, Abuirshaid ran the internal newspaper for a pro-Palestinian media organization called Islamic Association for Palestine. The group’s sister fundraising organization, the Holy Land Foundation was designated a terror group in 2001, investigated by the FBI and indicted by the Department of Justice. Ultimately, the foundation’s leaders went to prison for supporting terrorists, and a federal judge later found both groups responsible for funding Hamas.

An array of pending civil lawsuits alleges that Abuirshaid’s current group also has close Hamas ties, though these claims remain unproven as the suits work their way through the judicial system.

American Muslims for Palestine denies any Hamas ties, or even a close link to the previous groups.

“There have been many allegations and insinuations against American Muslims for Palestine and whether it has connections to Hamas, supports Hamas, or in any way, shape or form aids Hamas. The answer to all of those is simple and clear: No,” said Christine Jump, an attorney who represents AMP. “No, it does not.”

While campus protesters across the country have expressed solidarity with the Palestinian people, individual protests have also showcased moments of more overt support for Hamas or for violence: At Stanford University, officials alerted the FBI after a man at a campus protest was seen wearing a headband resembling those worn by Hamas fighters. At Columbia, students chanted “Hamas, we love you. We support your rockets too.”

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"Amid campus protests, organizers with past ties to Hamas support also emerge" (Original Post) SouthernDem4ever May 22 OP
Wow. Facts are slow to be released. jimfields33 May 22 #1
So a recruiting effort is now "ties"? underpants May 22 #2
Today I heard damning information about a chemical with "links". Igel May 22 #7
Going to have to point out that USAToday stopdiggin May 22 #3
You said the same thing I did but more elegantly underpants May 22 #6
Doesn't this exceed the content limit? LiberalFighter May 22 #4
I'm beginning to think... Think. Again. May 22 #5

underpants

(183,988 posts)
2. So a recruiting effort is now "ties"?
Wed May 22, 2024, 03:01 PM
May 22

Of course he’s going to these. It’s bound to be as ripe as anywhere he (and these groups) could imagine.

Igel

(35,711 posts)
7. Today I heard damning information about a chemical with "links".
Wed May 22, 2024, 09:39 PM
May 22

No difference. But one's not to be mentioned and the other got a large amount of money from the feds because they think it's evil and (social) media says, "Oh, yeah!"

With chemistry, connections are fairly random.

With people, birds of a feather and all that.

stopdiggin

(11,829 posts)
3. Going to have to point out that USAToday
Wed May 22, 2024, 03:14 PM
May 22

didn't real pin much of anything down here. A suggestion of connections, yes. But one has to grant, tenuous at best. Do they (or the government) really have anything solid against A-M for P? And perhaps more critically - what does this say (in real terms) about funding and direction for campus protests? If anything? (is it claimed that A-Muslims is a driving force for the protests? not in this article - or in anyone sourced for it. similarly, zero mention of funding .. )

Multiple experts interviewed by USA TODAY stressed that they don’t believe Abuirshaid’s organization, or any Hamas-connected groups or individuals, are driving the overall protest movement.

Student protest groups, moved by images from Gaza, “see a sense of justice” in their actions, said Ghaith al-Omari, senior fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, who previously held positions within the Palestinian Authority. “Even those who say things which are unpalatable are often coming from ignorance rather than malice."

But al-Omari said seeing occasional images of campus protesters flying Hamas and other militant groups’ flags is “certainly disturbing in terms of supporting what is truly unsupportable.”

underpants

(183,988 posts)
6. You said the same thing I did but more elegantly
Wed May 22, 2024, 04:44 PM
May 22

This one thing is happening and this one guy was there. That doesn’t mean cause/effect or even any kind of connection.

“Oh you’re interested in ____, well I’m part of an organization that does that.” Of course he’s going to these. It’s the best recruiting opportunity he’s ever had.

Think. Again.

(11,918 posts)
5. I'm beginning to think...
Wed May 22, 2024, 04:22 PM
May 22

...there are more outside agitators jumping into these protests than there are actual student protesters.

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