Aileen Cannon says that jury may struggle to understand charges

[RandySF]

Last edited Wed May 22, 2024, 08:02 PM - Edit history (1)

When postponing the trial, Cannon pointed to the mountain of unresolved pretrial issues for not putting a new date on the calendar. Wednesday kicks off a stretch of hearings scheduled through late July that will get the case through some – but not all – of the pretrial issues.

During the afternoon portion of Wednesday’s arguments, the defense lawyers raised concerns about how prosecutors structured the indictment, claiming that the wording for different charges within the same indictment sometimes sounded the same.

Prosecutor Jay Bratt said the charges reference different parts of the obstruction statute used to charge Trump and two of his employees. Bratt also pointed out that jurors would be given clear instructions about the charges during a trial.

Cannon said that while “it’s going to be hard for someone to detect what’s different in these counts,” she noted “that will be a project” down the road. Cannon has not yet set a trial date in the case after indefinitely postponing it in an order earlier this month.

The Florida judge spent hours Wednesday entertaining theories from defense attorneys about what they say were problems in the investigation and prosecution of the former president, Nauta and the third co-defendant, Carlos De Oliveira. The defense theories ranged from allegations that prosecutors tried to extort Nauta’s attorney to claims prosecutors used inappropriate and “attention-grabbing” descriptions of Mar-a-Lago in the indictment. Cannon ultimately suggested that the “potpourri of criticisms” from the three defense teams may be best suited for a jury to decide at an eventual trial.



https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/22/politics/trump-documents-case-judge-cannon-hearing/index.html

[unblock]

1. Projection lol

[Takket]

2. this is an absolute fucking farce. This trial will never happen unless Smith asks to the 11th circuit to change judges

[jimfields33]

31. None of the three trials have scheduled dates.

[Turbineguy]

3. She's looking for a jury of Florida Men.

Or inbred mutants.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

7. Now you're just being repeatedly redundant.

But I think that even Florida Man, after simple explanation, can understand "stealing classified documents - bad".

[TexLaProgressive]

4. Does she even understand how to do her job?

And it's not protecting a defendant. I really think this indefinite postponement of setting a trial date should be appealed and she should be removed.

[Irish_Dem]

10. No she doesn't.

[DickKessler]

5. I struggle to understand why obvious hacks like her are allowed to be judges

but here we are.

[elleng]

6. 'Cannon ultimately suggested that the "potpourri of criticisms" from the three defense teams

may be best suited for a jury to decide at an eventual trial.'

In other words, 'I have no idea what to do.'

Compare with retired judge here: The (tricky) legal instructions for the jury in NY v Trump - Talking Feds

https://www.democraticunderground.com/132223879

[Irish_Dem]

11. Yes. The judge is supposed to fine tune the charging statement.

And make it understandable to the jury.

This judge is hopeless.

[senseandsensibility]

13. You think? Then start the trial!

[Hermit-The-Prog]

19. Also, the "mountain of unresolved pretrial issues" are because she didn't resolve them!

The loose cannon simply kicked those cans down the road until there is now a pile big enough to block the road.

[elleng]

20. Zacly.

Doesn't know how/want to do her job.

[bluestarone]

8. Bet it's gonna be hard for the prosecutors to pick a jurist.

I'm thinking THIS judge is gonna interfere lots.

[lastlib]

14. (They're pretty much stuck with the "jurist" (Cannon)......

but they will pick a jury--one way or another---IF the "jurist" doesn't (wrongly) throw out the case.)

jurist. noun. ju·​rist ˈju̇r-ist. : an individual having a thorough knowledge of law. especially : judge.

[Cha]

9. Cannon is a magat. and the Corrupted "judge" in charge of TSF's Shit Stolen Doc

Trial..

So much Wrong.. and the assholes are questioning Judge Marchon when TSF is Guilty.

[UTUSN]

12. She be projecting much?

[JoseBalow]

15. Stupid jurors!

"peers"

[Aviation Pro]

16. No, stupid....

...Motherfucker stole documents that didn't belong to him and kept them after repeated attempts to resolve the situation and recover them. A jury will understand that clearly.

Fuck you, Motherfucker's lawyer.

[Skittles]

17. if I don't understand the charges I would hope the judge would explain

unless s/he is a repuke HACK

[vapor2]

18. When will she be removed already?

[RandySF]

21. No time soon.

[Hassler]

22. Loose Cannon thinks jurors are as dumb as she is.

[jmowreader]

23. No, ma'am, it will not be

Trump had a shitload of our nation's secrets stuffed in the restroom of his hotel in Palm Beach, where ANYONE could get to them.

[lindysalsagal]

24. Her trial will have to ne appealed. Moron.

[Celerity]

27. Once the jury is impanelled, she can end the trial at any time, it is not appeallable, and also Trump cannot be charged

ever again for that crime(s) as jeopardy is attached.

The US legal system is profoundly flawed at so so so many levels.

[budkin]

25. Calling Jack Smith!

Where are you??

[Buns_of_Fire]

26. They won't be nearly as confused as *she* seems to be.

I swear, of all the cases against TSF, this one seemed to me to be the most open-and-shut.

Are you allowed to take classified documents with you when you leave? No. Did he? Yes.

Are you allowed to keep said documents when the government nicely asks for them back? No Did he? Yes.

Are you allowed to try to hide these documents when Uncle Sam shows up at the door and insists on their return? No. Did he? Yes.

Open and shut. Guilty. Time to saltboard the treasonous slug.

[marble falls]

28. Is that because she's too incomepetent to explain things to a jury.

[RandySF]

29. And corrupt.

[Captain Zero]

30. She's being coached by Alito

Coached in her incompetence by someone. It's all too convenient.

[RobinA]

32. Here In PA

that's the judges' job. She needs to recuse herself if she doesn't understand the charges. Also here in PA, no one just hands the jury the proposed jury instructions from either side, so again, that's her job.