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deminks

(11,065 posts)
Thu May 23, 2024, 04:41 PM May 23

Mister TFG has committed yet another federal crime




Trump reveals he's been in direct or indirect contact with Putin and has convinced him to continue to hold an American hostage in Russia and interfere with our sovereign elections in order to try to elect the traitor Trump.

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So, a reporter languishes in a Russian prison, as well as other Americans, while Mister 🍊 conducts his own foreign illegal policy. The MEdia is more interested in the lack of integrity of Nicky somebody than a mob boss playing with the life of their colleague for his own benefit. When you're a celebrity, they let you do anything...
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Mister TFG has committed yet another federal crime (Original Post) deminks May 23 OP
If that was going to be a campaign issue, Trump just threw it away. He could have played that better. Maybe promise to brewens May 23 #1
whats his logic here? Who is he trying to sell on this? His base? They dont care about reporters. ZonkerHarris May 24 #54
Isn't that like a reverse Iran hostage plot? I'm confused. ColinC May 23 #2
It's exactly that Diraven May 23 #4
Yeah, and wryter2000 May 23 #6
Remind me...were the hostages loaded up on a plane during the inaugural speech???? CincyDem May 23 #27
Yes-- it was very obvious that Reagan had coordinated with Iran viva la May 23 #38
Actually DENVERPOPS May 24 #49
Remember the split screen views of the speech and the hostages. NBachers May 24 #48
Yeah. I thought the was inauguration but then wasn't sure. Thanks. CincyDem May 24 #50
K&R for exposure Blue Owl May 23 #3
How stupid is Trump? wryter2000 May 23 #5
and yet "we dont negotiate with terrorists" hem AllaN01Bear May 23 #15
Right out of the Ronald Reagan playbook. spanone May 23 #7
Sure, Reagan Might Have Pulled This Stunt... GB_RN May 23 #9
👍🏼 spanone May 23 #11
Combine Reagan's dementia, Nixon's paranoia, GeeDumbya's intellect with Caligula's morals and you have TSF. OMGWTF May 23 #22
Rofl Joinfortmill May 23 #26
There's A Very Reason Good Why... GB_RN May 23 #39
That's a good one! calimary May 24 #55
Oh, we will be paying a lot Retrograde May 23 #8
Trump can pay Putin in secrets. vanlassie May 23 #23
I'm pretty sure that's already happening. Think. Again. May 23 #34
Absolutley unbelievable ramapo May 23 #10
It is the Republican way peppertree May 23 #18
Paying nothing..... Red Mountain May 23 #12
The balkans and half of poland. Volaris May 23 #19
Playing the Devil's advocate. TomSlick May 23 #13
Agreed. It no more means he was in contact with Putin, Ms. Toad May 23 #24
Pretty sure putin doesn't like talking to Smelvis any more k55f5r May 24 #53
Trump is a master strategist people - let me hear from you. Yeah, right. NoMoreRepugs May 23 #14
grr AllaN01Bear May 23 #16
Not only that, but... 3825-87867 May 23 #17
AND... Think. Again. May 23 #35
Komrade Vonshitzenpants DoBW May 23 #20
It is bad enough we in the USA are having to deal PlutosHeart May 23 #21
ENOUGH! Someone, throw this beast into jail. Joinfortmill May 23 #25
Was this on the national news tonight? tavernier May 23 #28
Kind of sounds like the GOP during Jimmy Carters term and the Iranian hostages and "America Held Hostage" on ABC LiberalArkie May 23 #29
Yes it is the same thing. Irish_Dem May 23 #36
Fucking traitor. Emile May 23 #30
Somebody else wrote this. No way he got the reporter's name correct. niyad May 23 #31
Colluding with a foreign government to hold an American citizen hostage until after he's elected is despicable. patphil May 23 #32
Reagan did it and nothing happened to him. Irish_Dem May 23 #37
Got away with it because Corporate McPravda looked away. Kid Berwyn May 24 #42
ahmajinadad (sp?) wrote in an atlantic article, circa early 1990s rampartc May 24 #56
Absolutely this! Bayard May 24 #58
Trump is a fuck-up. Turbineguy May 23 #33
I hate that MF'er. I hope that journalist's family contacts the FBI about what he is doing. Maraya1969 May 23 #40
Liar Joinfortmill May 24 #41
If only Garland would get on that... Mr.WeRP May 24 #43
I'm close to reconsidering my stance on death penalty for traitors and spies because of him... Dave Bowman May 24 #44
Reagan pulled the same stunt... GiqueCee May 24 #45
Sorry that I wrote the same thing. Mblaze May 24 #47
No need to apologize... GiqueCee May 24 #52
This reminds me of Mblaze May 24 #46
I used to hear stories of people who celebrated JFK's assassination, and... ECL213 May 24 #51
Republicans over the years, seeking the presidency have a practice of meddling in international affairs without license. NHvet May 24 #57

brewens

(13,886 posts)
1. If that was going to be a campaign issue, Trump just threw it away. He could have played that better. Maybe promise to
Thu May 23, 2024, 04:55 PM
May 23

get him back like that and get Putin to say he'd consider it. Anything but that.

ZonkerHarris

(24,460 posts)
54. whats his logic here? Who is he trying to sell on this? His base? They dont care about reporters.
Fri May 24, 2024, 02:30 PM
May 24

Democrats hate him so we will trade the whole country for some reporter?
thats what he selling here
He's dumb as shit

Diraven

(602 posts)
4. It's exactly that
Thu May 23, 2024, 05:16 PM
May 23

Except Reagan wasn't stupid enough to announce that he was cool with Iran taking hostages to help him win.

viva la

(3,452 posts)
38. Yes-- it was very obvious that Reagan had coordinated with Iran
Thu May 23, 2024, 08:16 PM
May 23

Remember Nixon meddled in 1968 with the peace talks too.

GOP traitors.

DENVERPOPS

(9,113 posts)
49. Actually
Fri May 24, 2024, 12:19 PM
May 24

Everyone says: Reagan did this, and Reagan did that. Same with WBush did this, WBush did that........

In Reality, it was HWBush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/ETC that did this and that during the Reagan occupation of the White House....and

In Reality, it was Cheney/Rumsfeld/ETC that did this and that during the WBush occupation of the White House.......

Reagan and WBush were just "front" men for all the Nefarious shit that was going on behind the curtains and in the shadows....

Everyone always asks, who is running this show from the shadows.....I think the person that is the common theme through all of their past 40-50 years is HWBush......Director of the CIA, VP under Reagan, President for a term to clean up after shit during the Reagan Years including pardoning a hundred of Reagan's admin who were indicted for crimes, then HW's same minions were totally running things during the W administration. After that, HW was running things over *Carlisle Group* (sp?) where he was Chairman of the Board for years and years. Carlisle is fascinating little Private corporation, therefore little is known about them. It is a collection of 602? Millionaires and Billionaires. During the run up to the Iraq War, during the Iraq war, and after the Iraq war. Carlisle was the middleman between the seven major Manufacturers of the Military Industrial Complex, and the Pentagon. All Weapons sales, etc were routed thru the Carlyle group, marked up for their profits, then sold to the Pentagon........Some have estimated the Actual, Real, True, honest costs of the Iraq war is in the TRILLIONS, not the 3 Billion Rumsfeld estimated it would cost, to try to sell the U.S. Citizens on the war.....

Have no idea who the Republicans are that are running things from the sidelines from 2016>>>>Trump doesn't have anywhere near the IQ, nor the clarity to direct 2015-2024. (Most obvious by now, is of course Putin has his hand in things. Actually both hands and both feet. But there are others covertly lurking in the shadows of the Republican Party. There are probably Zillionaire oligarchs, CEO's, private societies, right wing conservative groups that all have little get togethers to orchestrate, organize and take actions they decide on.......
It is amazing what goes on out of public view........for instance, every late summer/early fall, in the tiny town of Saratoga Wyoming, with it's small one runway airport, goes from hardly any planes, to about 20-30 high end Corporate Jets lining the tarmac. This has gone on since the '60's. Each corporate jet brings the CEO of a BIGGIE in the Airline Industry. They go to a very exclusive, very fancy, and extremely private dude ranch located in the forest/mtns around Saratoga. They call themselves the "THE Conquistadors Club". They meet for about a week sharing information and most likely colluding to decide all kinds of things in the Airline industry behind closed doors.......There are probably countless other groups meeting to decide all kinds of things, away from they meddling eyes of the public and government.....

GB_RN

(2,541 posts)
9. Sure, Reagan Might Have Pulled This Stunt...
Thu May 23, 2024, 05:31 PM
May 23

But only if you make him vile, vulgar, uneducated and uncouth, and then add in twisted, vindictive, compulsive lying, a lower IQ to start with and then toss in more dementia than in a nursing home memory care unit.

😂

OMGWTF

(4,065 posts)
22. Combine Reagan's dementia, Nixon's paranoia, GeeDumbya's intellect with Caligula's morals and you have TSF.
Thu May 23, 2024, 06:45 PM
May 23

Retrograde

(10,235 posts)
8. Oh, we will be paying a lot
Thu May 23, 2024, 05:27 PM
May 23

Donnie may not be paying anything out of his pocket (not that he ever does), and the US will not be ponying up any cash, but there are other forms of payment - and you can bet that Putin knows just what he wants from the US

TomSlick

(11,230 posts)
13. Playing the Devil's advocate.
Thu May 23, 2024, 06:02 PM
May 23

TFG does say he has assurances from Putin, only that "Putin ... will do that for me."

Ms. Toad

(34,423 posts)
24. Agreed. It no more means he was in contact with Putin,
Thu May 23, 2024, 07:04 PM
May 23

than his insistence that Mexico would pay for the wall meant he had assurances from the Mexican president to that effect. It's just the way he talks.

k55f5r

(236 posts)
53. Pretty sure putin doesn't like talking to Smelvis any more
Fri May 24, 2024, 02:27 PM
May 24

than you or I would. A quick text to Melanoma or to Sean Hannity that they pass on would seem to be the best way to give him his marching orders.

PlutosHeart

(1,368 posts)
21. It is bad enough we in the USA are having to deal
Thu May 23, 2024, 06:32 PM
May 23

with a parallel universe of craziness and reality along with a parallel government running alongside our real government.

Make this stop.

LiberalArkie

(15,766 posts)
29. Kind of sounds like the GOP during Jimmy Carters term and the Iranian hostages and "America Held Hostage" on ABC
Thu May 23, 2024, 07:11 PM
May 23

patphil

(6,352 posts)
32. Colluding with a foreign government to hold an American citizen hostage until after he's elected is despicable.
Thu May 23, 2024, 07:22 PM
May 23

He should be arrested immediately.
We may not be paying anything but HE should be paying big time.

Kid Berwyn

(15,606 posts)
42. Got away with it because Corporate McPravda looked away.
Fri May 24, 2024, 09:02 AM
May 24

Ben Barnes, former Lt. Gubner of Texas, went public… 44 years later.



Reagan’s Treason: October Surprise and the $23 Million Payoff

by Greg Palast
20, 2023

Excerpt…

In Austin, Texas, I received unshakeable evidence that Barnes was the fixer who got Congressman Bush’s son out of the Vietnam draft. (This, while Bush Sr. was voting to send other men’s sons to Vietnam.)

What did Barnes get for his burial of Reagan’s deal with Iran and Bush Jr.’s draft dodging?

In 1999, I was investigating a company, GTech, which ran both the British and Texas lotteries. Texas had disqualified GTech from operating the state lottery based on strong evidence of corruption. But oddly, the new Governor of Texas, George W. Bush, fired the lottery director who banned GTEch. Then Bush’s new lottery commissioner gave GTech back its multi-billion-dollar contract, no bidding.

Notably, Bush’s firing of the state’s lottery director came two days after a meeting with GTech’s lobbyist—Ben Barnes.

Barnes’ fees from GTech? $23 million.

Continues…

https://www.gregpalast.com/reagans-treason-october-surprise/

Follow the money, somebody said.

rampartc

(5,565 posts)
56. ahmajinadad (sp?) wrote in an atlantic article, circa early 1990s
Fri May 24, 2024, 03:38 PM
May 24

he and carter had reached a deal, but in iran the president has a supreme leader, and the ayatollah quashed it pursuant to the deal with reagan.

here is an early report of the event

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1988-10-25-mn-285-story.html

Bayard

(22,583 posts)
58. Absolutely this!
Fri May 24, 2024, 04:32 PM
May 24

And any number of other things--acting as a foreign agent, setting policy/relations with another country without the authority, etc. I wish we could get the reporter's family's reaction to this little announcement, in prime time.

.

Dave Bowman

(2,074 posts)
44. I'm close to reconsidering my stance on death penalty for traitors and spies because of him...
Fri May 24, 2024, 09:30 AM
May 24

The damage he's doing and the high number of victims is terrible.

GiqueCee

(785 posts)
45. Reagan pulled the same stunt...
Fri May 24, 2024, 09:35 AM
May 24

... with the Iran hostages, and nobody called him on it. The corrupt media let him skate. "The Great Communicator" my ass. He was a weasel.

Mblaze

(277 posts)
47. Sorry that I wrote the same thing.
Fri May 24, 2024, 11:58 AM
May 24

I should have read the responses first but I was too eager to express my disgust. 😀

GiqueCee

(785 posts)
52. No need to apologize...
Fri May 24, 2024, 12:36 PM
May 24

... it just means we're on the same wavelength. In the heat of the moment, we just gotta let it out. I'm sure there are many who made the same connection.

Mblaze

(277 posts)
46. This reminds me of
Fri May 24, 2024, 11:55 AM
May 24

Reagan's October Surprise. Filthy tricks and colluding with our enemies is the legacy of the Republican Party.

ECL213

(240 posts)
51. I used to hear stories of people who celebrated JFK's assassination, and...
Fri May 24, 2024, 12:36 PM
May 24

I couldn't understand how anybody could have hated their President so much.

I quit drinking three years ago, and all I can say is when this motherfucker drops dead, I will pop the cork on a bottle of champagne and dance on his motherfucking grave.

NHvet

(243 posts)
57. Republicans over the years, seeking the presidency have a practice of meddling in international affairs without license.
Fri May 24, 2024, 03:53 PM
May 24

Nixon and the Vietnam Peace talks
Reagan and Iran hostages.

Seems to be a feature and not a bug of the GOP that they will, lie, cheat, and steal to remain in power.

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