No way a first time offender

[kairos12]

convicted of a financial crime goes to jail.

Just ask Martha.

Wait.

[FBaggins]

1. Obstruction and false claims to law enforcement are financial crimes?

Also... there are financial crimes and then there are financial crimes. Insider trading is very different from accounting issues.

Now... trying to influence an election is a big deal as well - but he wasn't convicted of that.

[stopdiggin]

8. +1. the analogy misses - by about a mile (of course the internet is full of this stuff - but, thanks)

[Attilatheblond]

14. How soon we forget that he, Jr, Eric, Trump Org were found guilty fo financial crimes & fined over 340 MILLION dollars

The latest conviction did include tax issues, which, nears as I can figure, are also financial crimes. And he was convicted of campaign crimes. The money Enquirer paid 'Karen' was considered an illegal campaign contribution, if I understand correctly. Maybe I am wrong, but there are some financial crimes in those two cases he has already been convicted in.

[FBaggins]

17. Exxcept that none of that is true

You are not "convicted" of a "crime" when you lose a civil judgment. Criminal convictions have to be unanimous and with a "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard. Civil trials are much easier to press.

Nor was he convicted of the illegal campaign contributions that are assumed in the jury's guilty verdict here. The prosecutor lacked the jurisdiction to bring that charge and the judge lacked the jurisdiction to hear such a case... The people who DID have that jurisdiction chose not to prosecute at all... so he can't be said to have been convicted of it.

[getagrip_already]

2. Somone analyzed thousands of nys convictions under this statute

And found that 10% of first time offenders were jailed. Typically these were cases where there were multiple felonies and other mitigating factors.

Tsf ranks in the top 5 cases for number of felonies and there are certainly a pile of mitigating factors on the prison side of the scales.

Just sayin.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

3. LOL

[Happy Hoosier]

4. Or Allen Weisselberg NT

[FBaggins]

5. Nope

Again... that was perjury and tax avoidance fraud.

[Happy Hoosier]

7. Tax avoidance isn't a financial crime? Sure seems like it to me! NT

[FBaggins]

9. Perjury certainly isn't...and as I said

“There are financial crimes and then there are financial crimes”

Defrauding the government of millions in tax revenue vs mislabeling expenses. I don’t think anyone is saying “financial crimes don’t result in jail time” they’re talking about the specific financial crime that he was actually convicted of

[Karadeniz]

6. How about all the people hes stiffed? An architect mentioned that the only

payment he received was for the half Trump had to pay up front. There's a video out there of a man describing how years of trying to get Trump to pay left a friend bankrupt and he killed himself. Can the court get access to the thousands of cases where Trump had the results sealed?

[onenote]

12. Was he convicted of crimes in any of those cases? If not, they're irrelevant in criminal sentencing.

[elocs]

10. Frankly, it's naive to believe that Trump will be treated or sentenced more harshly than anyone else. n/t

[TSExile]

11. Don't forget that Martha Stewart is a woman.

Sure, she's white and wealthy, but still a woman.

[kairos12]

13. Exactly. Successful too.

[Attilatheblond]

15. Seem to recall during her trial that it was mentioned she donated to some DEM candidates

So, female, wealthy, supported a DEM?

She got prison.

[TSExile]

16. Right???

Pretty much says it all!!