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AnrothElf

(923 posts)
Wed Jun 5, 2024, 05:50 PM Jun 2024

Passed an old man wearing a MAGA hat on the sidewalk...

I waited until I was right next to him, then said, clearly and confidently, "Fuck Trump."

And kept walking, without looking back.

A moment's pause, then "Fuck you!" from behind me.

"No, fuck you!" back to him.

The End.

(Yes, it felt good. No, I don't give a fuck.)

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Passed an old man wearing a MAGA hat on the sidewalk... (Original Post) AnrothElf Jun 2024 OP
We've been quiet too long. We should all be pushing back. marble falls Jun 2024 #1
Agreed. If the moron was stupid enough to wear a sWAAAAztika in public... AnrothElf Jun 2024 #4
Ah the FJB crowd is so sensitive. Voltaire2 Jun 2024 #2
I'd set my I-phone to play "He's Guilty" from Cop Rock, Vogon_Glory Jun 2024 #3
Yeah they haven't the subtlest of minds, so I try to talk down to them so they understand me. AnrothElf Jun 2024 #5
Oh that's clever PatSeg Jun 2024 #6
Only if the person is familiar with the song. I had never heard of it before niyad Jun 2024 #7
That's a good point PatSeg Jun 2024 #10
Nobody here mentioned damaging property. And, one must speak to them niyad Jun 2024 #11
Oh no, I'm not saying that anyone did PatSeg Jun 2024 #28
But you brought up property damage, why? Just for the record, I can niyad Jun 2024 #39
Oh my god, seriously??? PatSeg Jun 2024 #45
The L&O intro makes a good ringtone. Shermann Jun 2024 #15
Walked past a car that was leaving the parking lot at my supermarket niyad Jun 2024 #8
I've wanted to get some small swastika stickers SomedayKindaLove Jun 2024 #16
I've Said "Oh, Brother"... ProfessorGAC Jun 2024 #9
I like your approach. yardwork Jun 2024 #46
well, I do not confront, but I do not back-away. Dan Jun 2024 #12
For me... it depends. I will confront. I have confronted. AnrothElf Jun 2024 #32
Im sorry but that's , i dont want to say stupid, just a little silly? Srkdqltr Jun 2024 #13
Each of us handles these traitors in our own way. niyad Jun 2024 #17
lol fuck trump ! Also Cool story, bro. stonecutter357 Jun 2024 #19
Definitely juvenile. I'm not running for office, and I'm no gadfly. AnrothElf Jun 2024 #33
awwww John Shaft Jun 2024 #42
this is the society magats want. They know trump is a violent thug ecstatic Jun 2024 #50
I was in Costco in St George, Utah yesterday Stainless Jun 2024 #14
My immediate reaction was that a really blistering response would have been, niyad Jun 2024 #18
LOL John Shaft Jun 2024 #43
I would have added.... ProudMNDemocrat Jun 2024 #44
I've been in enough fights in my life to multigraincracker Jun 2024 #20
Fight? There'd be no fight. These clowns are armed. I'd be dead. AnrothElf Jun 2024 #34
I use to do a little amateur boxing many years ago. multigraincracker Jun 2024 #37
Those are mine as well. Yes, I have in my youth thrown the first punch, but these days? Nah... AnrothElf Jun 2024 #38
How was wearing a hat bullying you? TexasDem69 Jun 2024 #40
In my mind you won not only because nevergiveup Jun 2024 #21
I freely admit my motives were, as an earlier poster called them, more "juvenile". AnrothElf Jun 2024 #35
As they used to say a few years ago, COL Mustard Jun 2024 #22
As I was going to St. Ives Wonder Why Jun 2024 #23
One. TomSlick Jun 2024 #24
The title of the thread reminded me of this oldie. Wonder Why Jun 2024 #26
操你祖宗十八代 - fuck your family to the eighteen generation! AZLD4Candidate Jun 2024 #25
Too many of these clowns are armed to make this a good idea in general. cab67 Jun 2024 #27
I'm very much aware. Not saying it's a good idea, but the MAGA hat is a swastika to me. AnrothElf Jun 2024 #36
Gas prices are dropping like a rock here... MiHale Jun 2024 #29
if trump looses , or goes to jail, im going to make it misrable for the humpseers here. AllaN01Bear Jun 2024 #30
What,... no love left in your heart for trDunce ? magicarpet Jun 2024 #31
i am gonna just say kool-aid to the cult members. pansypoo53219 Jun 2024 #41
Imagine if you drive a Tesla Polybius Jun 2024 #47
Fuck Who's Feelings? czarjak Jun 2024 #48
lol. ecstatic Jun 2024 #49
You say he was an old man. This is important I think. Croney Jun 2024 #51
Heheh no running was involved. And I've reflected on the "old man" part, too... AnrothElf Jun 2024 #53
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AnrothElf

(923 posts)
4. Agreed. If the moron was stupid enough to wear a sWAAAAztika in public...
Wed Jun 5, 2024, 05:54 PM
Jun 2024

Heavy emphasis on the WAAAA!

Vogon_Glory

(9,357 posts)
3. I'd set my I-phone to play "He's Guilty" from Cop Rock,
Wed Jun 5, 2024, 05:54 PM
Jun 2024

Then jack up the volume so he’d hear it. But that’s me, not you.

 

AnrothElf

(923 posts)
5. Yeah they haven't the subtlest of minds, so I try to talk down to them so they understand me.
Wed Jun 5, 2024, 05:55 PM
Jun 2024

I'd hate for them to misunderstand my sentiment.

niyad

(117,864 posts)
7. Only if the person is familiar with the song. I had never heard of it before
Wed Jun 5, 2024, 05:59 PM
Jun 2024

this thread.

I see no need to be civil to these thugs.

PatSeg

(49,532 posts)
10. That's a good point
Wed Jun 5, 2024, 06:43 PM
Jun 2024

I hadn't heard the song either.

I just don't want to behave like they do.

It doesn't mean they should go unchallenged, but not quite in the way they behave; i.e. crude, vulgar, violent, ignorant, profane, threatening, etc. I can put people down without swearing the way they do, especially on signs, shirts, hats, and bumper stickers. Also, I would never damage someone's property because I disagree with them.

niyad

(117,864 posts)
11. Nobody here mentioned damaging property. And, one must speak to them
Wed Jun 5, 2024, 07:09 PM
Jun 2024

Last edited Wed Jun 5, 2024, 08:22 PM - Edit history (1)

in language they understand.

PatSeg

(49,532 posts)
28. Oh no, I'm not saying that anyone did
Wed Jun 5, 2024, 08:43 PM
Jun 2024

I am just saying, I do not intend to behave like them and I believe that they DO understand when people speak up firmly and forcefully. We can be angry and resolute without behaving like they do. (Please know that I'm NOT saying that you behave like them.)

That said, I do swear, but less and less as I get older. I try not to swear out of anger unless I am yelling at the TV screen. I have more than my share of regrets. I want people to hear what I really mean, not just the profanity. Whenever a person says, "Fuck you" to someone, the answer is almost always "Fuck you" back. Then it goes on and on without anyone making a single meaningful point, just a contest of swear words with possibly a few personal insults thrown in. Like 9 year old kids trying to provoke a fight.

I've seen videos of some of these MAGA freaks and 90% of what they say is some variation of "fuck" often screaming in people's faces. I guess that's the best they can do. I don't think they even know what they're fighting for, they're just itching for a fight.







niyad

(117,864 posts)
39. But you brought up property damage, why? Just for the record, I can
Wed Jun 5, 2024, 10:13 PM
Jun 2024

outswear any of those morons, in several languages, with a polite smile on my face. It is pointless to use big, or even medium-sized words on them, they simply do not understand. One of the early examples I had of this occurred when I was in my 20's, a million years ago. I was talking to a very low-information person, and, in the context of this little encounter, I used the phrase "demonic possession". He sounded out the word, haltingly, and then said, " is that like devils and shit?" I politely said that that was what the word "demonic" referred to. He sneered, "I didn't go to no fancy college to learn them big words." By this time, I had had enough of this pointless conversation, and said, oh-so-sweetly, "Neither did I. I learned it in second grade."

As I said, you have to use words they might understand.

PatSeg

(49,532 posts)
45. Oh my god, seriously???
Thu Jun 6, 2024, 09:59 AM
Jun 2024

"Demonic possession"? That is really sad. Your response was perfect AND certainly in words he could understand.

Way back when I was in my twenties, I used the word "basically" and the guy I was talking to thought I was being stuck up and accused me of being college educated. I was speechless that time, I didn't know how much more simplistic I could speak.

My daughter is really good at comebacks, usually short and to the point. When it comes to uninformed right-wingers, she is more inclined to ask a question which throws them off script. Just a simple, "Really? Where did you hear that?" can be very effective. She was really upset when she found out her beloved uncle had bought into all the right-wing media propaganda and she managed to really turn him around in a relatively short period of time. Hopefully it stuck. They can relapsed so quickly.

The "property damage" reference was saying that I wouldn't resort to their vulgar language, much like I wouldn't damage their property. I was tired and wasn't being very clear.

We live in such surreal times. It is often hard to take it all in. I have been around all kinds of people throughout my life and I've never seen anything like what we've witnessed in recent years. I can remember when political debate could be stimulating and civil, even fun sometimes. No one thought twice about putting a bumper sticker on their car or sign in their yard. I can't imagine what my father, a republican precinct captain, would think of a sign or pin that said Fu*K the opposing candidate.

niyad

(117,864 posts)
8. Walked past a car that was leaving the parking lot at my supermarket
Wed Jun 5, 2024, 06:03 PM
Jun 2024

earlierbtoday. Flag, two t#### bumper stickers. Flipped them off, and then waved. Idiot gunned the moter. . in the parking lot.

SomedayKindaLove

(832 posts)
16. I've wanted to get some small swastika stickers
Wed Jun 5, 2024, 07:32 PM
Jun 2024

So I can place them on Trump bumper stickers.

But don’t want to go down the rabbit hole of trying to find such an item on the internet and possibly be placed on a hate list.

ProfessorGAC

(68,339 posts)
9. I've Said "Oh, Brother"...
Wed Jun 5, 2024, 06:17 PM
Jun 2024

...plenty loud enough to hear. I've yet to get a comeback.
No matter how much Kool-aid they've consumed, there's no defense for the indefensible.

yardwork

(63,323 posts)
46. I like your approach.
Thu Jun 6, 2024, 11:18 AM
Jun 2024

You're letting them know that you don't agree, and in fact are contemptuous of their choice, but without being antagonistic.

I think we're underusing contempt and shame against the MAGAs.

 

AnrothElf

(923 posts)
32. For me... it depends. I will confront. I have confronted.
Wed Jun 5, 2024, 09:00 PM
Jun 2024

It's tiring, though, I'll give you that. It puts a target on your back.

Srkdqltr

(7,208 posts)
13. Im sorry but that's , i dont want to say stupid, just a little silly?
Wed Jun 5, 2024, 07:27 PM
Jun 2024

Actually a lot (I don't want to say stupid) juvenile.

I know ill be kicked, written up, sent to jug.

 

AnrothElf

(923 posts)
33. Definitely juvenile. I'm not running for office, and I'm no gadfly.
Wed Jun 5, 2024, 09:04 PM
Jun 2024

To me, it's like seeing a swastika. What am I going to do stop and sealion some old asshole about his hat? Try to convince a cultist he's wrong? Nah. For one thing: that doesn't work. For another... Fuck Trump. The asshole needs to know it.

Is it juvenile? Without question.

Do I give a fuck?

Nope.

ecstatic

(33,940 posts)
50. this is the society magats want. They know trump is a violent thug
Thu Jun 6, 2024, 05:18 PM
Jun 2024

yet they wear the stupid hats and fly their stupid flags to try to trigger us. If that's what they want, that's what they should get. It shouldn't just be one way bullying of us by them.

Stainless

(719 posts)
14. I was in Costco in St George, Utah yesterday
Wed Jun 5, 2024, 07:30 PM
Jun 2024

Saw a pathetic moron wearing a hat that said "Fuck Joe Biden". He was definitely looking for trouble. I avoided him.

niyad

(117,864 posts)
18. My immediate reaction was that a really blistering response would have been,
Wed Jun 5, 2024, 07:41 PM
Jun 2024

"Sooooo, you are saying you have the hots for Joe?" (As you can see, I am more than slightly warped!)

ProudMNDemocrat

(18,406 posts)
44. I would have added....
Thu Jun 6, 2024, 07:09 AM
Jun 2024

"Fuck Joe Biden? He's my type too! Kind, loving, fit as a fiddle, and has a sense of humor."

I too am a bit warped.

In fact, I saw Joe 12 years ago when he came to Rochester to give a speech on behalf of the re-election campaign. I was not close enough to talk with him, but he spoke with that same passion and conviction he still has today. When he put on his Aviators, the crowd went nuts! And his smile!

multigraincracker

(33,585 posts)
20. I've been in enough fights in my life to
Wed Jun 5, 2024, 07:52 PM
Jun 2024

know better than pick one.

My weapon is humor. They can’t stand to be laughed at and I’m long gone before they can figure out what to say.
I also understand anger management.

But that’s just me.

 

AnrothElf

(923 posts)
34. Fight? There'd be no fight. These clowns are armed. I'd be dead.
Wed Jun 5, 2024, 09:07 PM
Jun 2024

But we can't let them bully us. I hate me some bullies. For bullies... I'll fight. I'll give them what they want. They might not like it though.

I don't think "Fuck Trump" are fighting words, however.

multigraincracker

(33,585 posts)
37. I use to do a little amateur boxing many years ago.
Wed Jun 5, 2024, 09:25 PM
Jun 2024

Won some and lost some. Got knocked out, saw stars. Now suffer dain bramage in my old age.
Words are symbols and nothing worth fighting over.
But that’s just me.
Now I’m saving what I have left to protect my love ones. If someone throws an unprovoked punch I’d strike back. I’m not going argue, just act if I have to.
Every one has their own rules, but those are mine.

 

AnrothElf

(923 posts)
38. Those are mine as well. Yes, I have in my youth thrown the first punch, but these days? Nah...
Wed Jun 5, 2024, 09:31 PM
Jun 2024

Not worth it to die over what should've been a good old fashioned ass-whoopin' for one, the other, or both of us.

I taught my boys to "always flinch". Be ready to react, but not to act first.

Doesn't do much against a gun and a madman. I thought "Fuck Trump" was pretty mild though.

nevergiveup

(4,815 posts)
21. In my mind you won not only because
Wed Jun 5, 2024, 07:53 PM
Jun 2024

you said it first....... but you also won because you were on the side of fairness, our troops, our democracy, pride, civil rights, voting rights, sanity, the environment and common decency. Thank you for your service!

 

AnrothElf

(923 posts)
35. I freely admit my motives were, as an earlier poster called them, more "juvenile".
Wed Jun 5, 2024, 09:10 PM
Jun 2024

I'm Gen X and have been screaming into the void my entire socially-aware life.

This is not new behavior for me. Not even the first time I've said those words to a Trumpaloompa

COL Mustard

(6,598 posts)
22. As they used to say a few years ago,
Wed Jun 5, 2024, 08:09 PM
Jun 2024

Fuck your feelings.

They sure as hell don't like having it turned against them. Fuck 'em all.

Wonder Why

(4,270 posts)
23. As I was going to St. Ives
Wed Jun 5, 2024, 08:09 PM
Jun 2024

I met a man with seven wives,
Each wife had seven sacks,
Each sack had seven cats,
Each cat had seven kits:
Kits, cats, sacks, and wives,
How many were there going to St Ives?

cab67

(3,156 posts)
27. Too many of these clowns are armed to make this a good idea in general.
Wed Jun 5, 2024, 08:32 PM
Jun 2024

I don't oppose telling Trump supporters to fuck off in principle, and I'm not going to say you were wrong to do this. But there are just too many guns out there, and a lot of the Orange One's supporters are less than stable.

 

AnrothElf

(923 posts)
36. I'm very much aware. Not saying it's a good idea, but the MAGA hat is a swastika to me.
Wed Jun 5, 2024, 09:17 PM
Jun 2024

I'm not recommending the practice. I don't think I could've stopped myself in that moment... consequences be damned.

There needs to be consequences to wearing that hat in public.

MiHale

(10,460 posts)
29. Gas prices are dropping like a rock here...
Wed Jun 5, 2024, 08:48 PM
Jun 2024

Northern Michigan.
Still have some “I did that” stickers…been putting them on the pumps…again. The tourists are coming.

They get peeled off after a while but so what ?

Polybius

(16,837 posts)
47. Imagine if you drive a Tesla
Thu Jun 6, 2024, 01:01 PM
Jun 2024

I'm getting hit on both sides right now. The right thinks I'm a hippy Green Socialist, and the left thinks I'm a Musk fanboy.

Croney

(4,798 posts)
51. You say he was an old man. This is important I think.
Thu Jun 6, 2024, 05:35 PM
Jun 2024

I'm an old woman, and if I size up a fellow and decide I can outrun him, I might offer him a FUCK TRUMP as I go by. If not, I'll just mumble it and judge him.

 

AnrothElf

(923 posts)
53. Heheh no running was involved. And I've reflected on the "old man" part, too...
Thu Jun 6, 2024, 09:42 PM
Jun 2024

I'm 99% sure I would've done the same thing no matter who was wearing the MAGA swastika.

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