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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPassed an old man wearing a MAGA hat on the sidewalk...
I waited until I was right next to him, then said, clearly and confidently, "Fuck Trump."
And kept walking, without looking back.
A moment's pause, then "Fuck you!" from behind me.
"No, fuck you!" back to him.
The End.
(Yes, it felt good. No, I don't give a fuck.)
marble falls
(60,123 posts)AnrothElf
(923 posts)Heavy emphasis on the WAAAA!
Voltaire2
(14,405 posts)Vogon_Glory
(9,357 posts)Then jack up the volume so hed hear it. But thats me, not you.
AnrothElf
(923 posts)I'd hate for them to misunderstand my sentiment.
PatSeg
(49,532 posts)And also civil. Gets the message across.
niyad
(117,864 posts)this thread.
I see no need to be civil to these thugs.
PatSeg
(49,532 posts)I hadn't heard the song either.
I just don't want to behave like they do.
It doesn't mean they should go unchallenged, but not quite in the way they behave; i.e. crude, vulgar, violent, ignorant, profane, threatening, etc. I can put people down without swearing the way they do, especially on signs, shirts, hats, and bumper stickers. Also, I would never damage someone's property because I disagree with them.
niyad
(117,864 posts)Last edited Wed Jun 5, 2024, 08:22 PM - Edit history (1)
in language they understand.
PatSeg
(49,532 posts)I am just saying, I do not intend to behave like them and I believe that they DO understand when people speak up firmly and forcefully. We can be angry and resolute without behaving like they do. (Please know that I'm NOT saying that you behave like them.)
That said, I do swear, but less and less as I get older. I try not to swear out of anger unless I am yelling at the TV screen. I have more than my share of regrets. I want people to hear what I really mean, not just the profanity. Whenever a person says, "Fuck you" to someone, the answer is almost always "Fuck you" back. Then it goes on and on without anyone making a single meaningful point, just a contest of swear words with possibly a few personal insults thrown in. Like 9 year old kids trying to provoke a fight.
I've seen videos of some of these MAGA freaks and 90% of what they say is some variation of "fuck" often screaming in people's faces. I guess that's the best they can do. I don't think they even know what they're fighting for, they're just itching for a fight.
niyad
(117,864 posts)outswear any of those morons, in several languages, with a polite smile on my face. It is pointless to use big, or even medium-sized words on them, they simply do not understand. One of the early examples I had of this occurred when I was in my 20's, a million years ago. I was talking to a very low-information person, and, in the context of this little encounter, I used the phrase "demonic possession". He sounded out the word, haltingly, and then said, " is that like devils and shit?" I politely said that that was what the word "demonic" referred to. He sneered, "I didn't go to no fancy college to learn them big words." By this time, I had had enough of this pointless conversation, and said, oh-so-sweetly, "Neither did I. I learned it in second grade."
As I said, you have to use words they might understand.
PatSeg
(49,532 posts)"Demonic possession"? That is really sad. Your response was perfect AND certainly in words he could understand.
Way back when I was in my twenties, I used the word "basically" and the guy I was talking to thought I was being stuck up and accused me of being college educated. I was speechless that time, I didn't know how much more simplistic I could speak.
My daughter is really good at comebacks, usually short and to the point. When it comes to uninformed right-wingers, she is more inclined to ask a question which throws them off script. Just a simple, "Really? Where did you hear that?" can be very effective. She was really upset when she found out her beloved uncle had bought into all the right-wing media propaganda and she managed to really turn him around in a relatively short period of time. Hopefully it stuck. They can relapsed so quickly.
The "property damage" reference was saying that I wouldn't resort to their vulgar language, much like I wouldn't damage their property. I was tired and wasn't being very clear.
We live in such surreal times. It is often hard to take it all in. I have been around all kinds of people throughout my life and I've never seen anything like what we've witnessed in recent years. I can remember when political debate could be stimulating and civil, even fun sometimes. No one thought twice about putting a bumper sticker on their car or sign in their yard. I can't imagine what my father, a republican precinct captain, would think of a sign or pin that said Fu*K the opposing candidate.
Shermann
(8,233 posts)niyad
(117,864 posts)earlierbtoday. Flag, two t#### bumper stickers. Flipped them off, and then waved. Idiot gunned the moter. . in the parking lot.
SomedayKindaLove
(832 posts)So I can place them on Trump bumper stickers.
But dont want to go down the rabbit hole of trying to find such an item on the internet and possibly be placed on a hate list.
ProfessorGAC
(68,339 posts)...plenty loud enough to hear. I've yet to get a comeback.
No matter how much Kool-aid they've consumed, there's no defense for the indefensible.
yardwork
(63,323 posts)You're letting them know that you don't agree, and in fact are contemptuous of their choice, but without being antagonistic.
I think we're underusing contempt and shame against the MAGAs.
Dan
(3,908 posts)AnrothElf
(923 posts)It's tiring, though, I'll give you that. It puts a target on your back.
Srkdqltr
(7,208 posts)Actually a lot (I don't want to say stupid) juvenile.
I know ill be kicked, written up, sent to jug.
niyad
(117,864 posts)stonecutter357
(12,753 posts)AnrothElf
(923 posts)To me, it's like seeing a swastika. What am I going to do stop and sealion some old asshole about his hat? Try to convince a cultist he's wrong? Nah. For one thing: that doesn't work. For another... Fuck Trump. The asshole needs to know it.
Is it juvenile? Without question.
Do I give a fuck?
Nope.
ecstatic
(33,940 posts)yet they wear the stupid hats and fly their stupid flags to try to trigger us. If that's what they want, that's what they should get. It shouldn't just be one way bullying of us by them.
Stainless
(719 posts)Saw a pathetic moron wearing a hat that said "Fuck Joe Biden". He was definitely looking for trouble. I avoided him.
niyad
(117,864 posts)"Sooooo, you are saying you have the hots for Joe?" (As you can see, I am more than slightly warped!)
ProudMNDemocrat
(18,406 posts)"Fuck Joe Biden? He's my type too! Kind, loving, fit as a fiddle, and has a sense of humor."
I too am a bit warped.
In fact, I saw Joe 12 years ago when he came to Rochester to give a speech on behalf of the re-election campaign. I was not close enough to talk with him, but he spoke with that same passion and conviction he still has today. When he put on his Aviators, the crowd went nuts! And his smile!
multigraincracker
(33,585 posts)know better than pick one.
My weapon is humor. They cant stand to be laughed at and Im long gone before they can figure out what to say.
I also understand anger management.
But thats just me.
AnrothElf
(923 posts)But we can't let them bully us. I hate me some bullies. For bullies... I'll fight. I'll give them what they want. They might not like it though.
I don't think "Fuck Trump" are fighting words, however.
multigraincracker
(33,585 posts)Won some and lost some. Got knocked out, saw stars. Now suffer dain bramage in my old age.
Words are symbols and nothing worth fighting over.
But thats just me.
Now Im saving what I have left to protect my love ones. If someone throws an unprovoked punch Id strike back. Im not going argue, just act if I have to.
Every one has their own rules, but those are mine.
AnrothElf
(923 posts)Not worth it to die over what should've been a good old fashioned ass-whoopin' for one, the other, or both of us.
I taught my boys to "always flinch". Be ready to react, but not to act first.
Doesn't do much against a gun and a madman. I thought "Fuck Trump" was pretty mild though.
TexasDem69
(2,317 posts)What other political slogans make you verbally attack someone?
nevergiveup
(4,815 posts)you said it first....... but you also won because you were on the side of fairness, our troops, our democracy, pride, civil rights, voting rights, sanity, the environment and common decency. Thank you for your service!
AnrothElf
(923 posts)I'm Gen X and have been screaming into the void my entire socially-aware life.
This is not new behavior for me. Not even the first time I've said those words to a Trumpaloompa
COL Mustard
(6,598 posts)Fuck your feelings.
They sure as hell don't like having it turned against them. Fuck 'em all.
Wonder Why
(4,270 posts)I met a man with seven wives,
Each wife had seven sacks,
Each sack had seven cats,
Each cat had seven kits:
Kits, cats, sacks, and wives,
How many were there going to St Ives?
But I miss your meaning.
Wonder Why
(4,270 posts)AZLD4Candidate
(6,107 posts)cab67
(3,156 posts)I don't oppose telling Trump supporters to fuck off in principle, and I'm not going to say you were wrong to do this. But there are just too many guns out there, and a lot of the Orange One's supporters are less than stable.
AnrothElf
(923 posts)I'm not recommending the practice. I don't think I could've stopped myself in that moment... consequences be damned.
There needs to be consequences to wearing that hat in public.
MiHale
(10,460 posts)Northern Michigan.
Still have some I did that stickers
been putting them on the pumps
again. The tourists are coming.
They get peeled off after a while but so what ?
AllaN01Bear
(22,300 posts)magicarpet
(15,771 posts)I can assure you - you are not alone.
pansypoo53219
(21,472 posts)Polybius
(16,837 posts)I'm getting hit on both sides right now. The right thinks I'm a hippy Green Socialist, and the left thinks I'm a Musk fanboy.
czarjak
(12,153 posts)They thought it was a one way street.
ecstatic
(33,940 posts)Croney
(4,798 posts)I'm an old woman, and if I size up a fellow and decide I can outrun him, I might offer him a FUCK TRUMP as I go by. If not, I'll just mumble it and judge him.
AnrothElf
(923 posts)I'm 99% sure I would've done the same thing no matter who was wearing the MAGA swastika.
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