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Nevilledog

(51,881 posts)
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 01:13 PM Jun 10

Justice Alito Caught on Tape Discussing How Battle for America 'Can't Be Compromised'

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/samuel-alito-supreme-court-justice-recording-tape-battle-1235036470/

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Justice Samuel Alito spoke candidly about the ideological battle between the left and the right — discussing the difficulty of living “peacefully” with ideological opponents in the face of “fundamental” differences that “can’t be compromised.” He endorsed what his interlocutor described as a necessary fight to “return our country to a place of godliness.” And Alito offered a blunt assessment of how America’s polarization will ultimately be resolved: “One side or the other is going to win.”

Alito made these remarks in conversation at the Supreme Court Historical Society’s annual dinner on June 3, a function that is known to right-wing activists as an opportunity to buttonhole Supreme Court justices. His comments were recorded by Lauren Windsor, a liberal documentary filmmaker. Windsor attended the dinner as a dues-paying member of the society under her real name, along with a colleague. She asked questions of the justice as though she were a religious conservative.

The justice’s unguarded comments highlight the degree to which Alito makes little effort to present himself as a neutral umpire calling judicial balls and strikes, but rather as a partisan member of a hard-right judicial faction that’s empowered to make life-altering decisions for every American.

The recording, which was provided exclusively to Rolling Stone, captures Windsor approaching Alito at the event and reminding him that they spoke at the same function the year before, when she asked him a question about political polarization. In the intervening year, she tells the justice, her views on the matter had changed. “I don’t know that we can negotiate with the left in the way that needs to happen for the polarization to end,” Windsor says. “I think that it’s a matter of, like, winning.”

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Justice Alito Caught on Tape Discussing How Battle for America 'Can't Be Compromised' (Original Post) Nevilledog Jun 10 OP
Grounds for recusal on every issue - No? gab13by13 Jun 10 #1
You would think so PatSeg Jun 10 #20
"like monarchs." Dave Bowman Jun 10 #27
Hmm, sounds familiar PatSeg Jun 10 #28
Liberals are his enemy and he must beat them. He must win. Irish_Dem Jun 10 #2
This is one sick MOMFUDSKI Jun 10 #3
Nothing he says will ever affect his position. 50 Shades Of Blue Jun 10 #4
Alito must be defeated at all costs. Sky Jewels Jun 10 #5
But how? Jilly_in_VA Jun 10 #12
I can't answer that question the way I'd like to. Sky Jewels Jun 11 #47
A leading indicator he places party politics above justice and rule of law Torchlight Jun 10 #6
He doesn't place party over country: he intends a theocracy& is among those who have bent the party to their will Hekate Jun 10 #8
UNLIKE his Jesus or his God. ancianita Jun 10 #33
THIS malaise Jun 10 #39
It's Amazing To Me RobinA Jun 10 #14
No, it's much worse - he's on this end of the Gaw-duh Pipeline, and is divinely ordained . . . hatrack Jun 10 #34
Pride is a deadly sin. That's in old Catholic doctrine. haele Jun 10 #40
This dangerously powerful man was born in the wrong century, by several centuries Hekate Jun 10 #7
Fuck theocracy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SamKnause Jun 10 #9
Everyone paying attention knows he is a partisan political operative, not a jurist. RockRaven Jun 10 #10
There was a time that comments like these would lead to retirement Buckeyeblue Jun 10 #11
If he cannot be impartial as he said on tape, he must be removed from SCOTUS. deminks Jun 10 #13
Correct. Trust_Reality Jun 10 #25
Absolutely. Religion has no place in any court of this country, least of all the Supreme Court. ancianita Jun 10 #35
But how? Polybius Jun 10 #44
It's all-or-nothing take-no-prisoners attitude of Rs which divides USA. They won't cooperate building USA. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 10 #15
If we get the House and Senate orangecrush Jun 10 #16
This interview alone should be sufficient grounds to impeach Alito if he won't resign. Martin68 Jun 10 #17
Expand the court. westen Jun 10 #18
Yes. ancianita Jun 10 #36
Yes. ancianita Jun 10 #38
Add 5 seats Stuckinthebush Jun 10 #42
Fuck his religious bullshit Catholicism. jalan48 Jun 10 #19
Clarence the Goldeny Retriever sings from the same hymnal. Kid Berwyn Jun 10 #21
Typo needs fixing: struggle4progress Jun 10 #26
Partisan hack. Old Crank Jun 10 #22
We need to get aggressive radical religiosity out of government, especially the Supreme Court. Trust_Reality Jun 10 #23
Absofuckinglutely Nevilledog Jun 10 #43
I wish some reporter would just come out and ask these RWNJs Tansy_Gold Jun 10 #24
Dude needs to be impeached and removed SpankMe Jun 10 #29
Nothing New HandmaidsTaleUntold Jun 10 #30
It's a pity he doesn't consider the constitution his guideline Warpy Jun 10 #31
Shit!!! samplegirl Jun 10 #32
Democrats winning the Presidential elections. surfered Jun 10 #37
Time to take a closer look... ultralite001 Jun 10 #41
This guy needs to resign - TBF Jun 10 #45
Sane people do not want Alito as a ruler. Get the word out. Hermit-The-Prog Jun 11 #46

PatSeg

(48,463 posts)
20. You would think so
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 02:30 PM
Jun 10

Unfortunately, standard rules don't seem to apply to members of this Supreme Court. It is as if they are above everything like monarchs.

At a different time in history, Justice Alito would resign. We're living in an "anything goes" era apparently. I primarily blame Trump who proved to the world that people in power can do anything and not be held accountable.

Irish_Dem

(50,513 posts)
2. Liberals are his enemy and he must beat them. He must win.
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 01:20 PM
Jun 10

This man is seriously disturbed.
As are Kavanaugh and Thomas.

Sky Jewels

(7,326 posts)
5. Alito must be defeated at all costs.
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 01:24 PM
Jun 10

He is one of the more evil and damaging figures in U.S. history -- a white supremacist Christofascist traitor to democracy, equality, progress and all other positive values.

Jilly_in_VA

(10,177 posts)
12. But how?
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 01:57 PM
Jun 10

His is not an elective position, and there are those calling for Kagan and Sotomayor to resign so that Biden can replace them now, which is silly.

Torchlight

(3,684 posts)
6. A leading indicator he places party politics above justice and rule of law
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 01:26 PM
Jun 10

And that I believe, is more than cause for anyone to second-guess any ruling he makes moving forward.

I'm smelling shades of the Midnight Judges Act when Jefferson asked, 'ought the seditious and official attack on the principles of our constitution to go unpunished?' with bizarre consequences.

Hekate

(91,727 posts)
8. He doesn't place party over country: he intends a theocracy& is among those who have bent the party to their will
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 01:38 PM
Jun 10

He has placed Church over State.

RobinA

(9,960 posts)
14. It's Amazing To Me
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 02:06 PM
Jun 10

that he doesn't even pretend in public to take his job as it was intended. He's an embarrassment to judges. ALL judges, not just those of his esteemed position. One side is going to win? Truly moronic. Some school should revoke his JD.

hatrack

(59,695 posts)
34. No, it's much worse - he's on this end of the Gaw-duh Pipeline, and is divinely ordained . . .
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 03:51 PM
Jun 10

He knows better than all of us, and if we don't agree, it doesn't mean we have different points of view.

Oh, no, no - it means we're demonic.

haele

(12,775 posts)
40. Pride is a deadly sin. That's in old Catholic doctrine.
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 04:11 PM
Jun 10

Alito is just as much a cafeteria Christian as most evangelicals, who are constantly picking, choosing or adding on to 'the Bible' to justify their own feelings and actions while casting stones/judgement at others for following dictates from the very same Bible they purport to defend.

Too proud by half. He's made God in his own image. And it's a rather small, petty God. Just saying, it seems very Blasphemous. Almost worth a lightning bolt from above.

Haele

SamKnause

(13,200 posts)
9. Fuck theocracy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 01:41 PM
Jun 10

Keep your fucking nose out of everyone's business.

If you fucking love theocracies so much move to a country that already has one.

You don't deserve to live in this country.

Fuck you.

Fuck theocracy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RockRaven

(15,313 posts)
10. Everyone paying attention knows he is a partisan political operative, not a jurist.
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 01:42 PM
Jun 10

But we've known that for a long time, and nothing can or will be done about it.

Buckeyeblue

(5,520 posts)
11. There was a time that comments like these would lead to retirement
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 01:53 PM
Jun 10

But there is no decorum among conservatives. They flaunt their corruption. They flaunt their bigotry. And the flaunt their contempt for democracy.

Trust_Reality

(1,743 posts)
25. Correct.
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 02:57 PM
Jun 10

Religiosity on the Supreme Court puts religious dogma above the law and the constitution. It is grossly inappropriate.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,331 posts)
15. It's all-or-nothing take-no-prisoners attitude of Rs which divides USA. They won't cooperate building USA. . . nt
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 02:08 PM
Jun 10

ancianita

(36,545 posts)
36. Yes.
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 03:56 PM
Jun 10

Biden only says that in an election year. He'll not stop Congress from passing judiciary reform laws, and with pressure from his party, he will have talks with Schumer and Jeffries, and will go forward with nominees.

ancianita

(36,545 posts)
38. Yes.
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 04:05 PM
Jun 10

Biden says that in an election year. But if/when Dems win both Houses, and begin impeachment of Alito, Pres. Biden wouldn't think of stopping Congress from passing judiciary reform laws that would expand the Supreme Court, with or without successful removal of Alito. Were we successful in winning both Houses and expanding the SC, he would, with Schumer and Jeffries, likely go forward with nominees.

But we have to win the Senate. We have to.

Stuckinthebush

(10,866 posts)
42. Add 5 seats
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 04:39 PM
Jun 10

One each to Cancel out Alito and Thomas. One to cancel Gorsuch since he should never be there in the first place. One for the Obama stolen pick. One for good measure.

Kid Berwyn

(15,643 posts)
21. Clarence the Goldeny Retriever sings from the same hymnal.
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 02:33 PM
Jun 10

"A judge should be evaluated by whether he faithfully upholds his oath to God, not to the people, to the state or to the Constitution." -- Clarence Thomas

Trust_Reality

(1,743 posts)
23. We need to get aggressive radical religiosity out of government, especially the Supreme Court.
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 02:54 PM
Jun 10

Religiosity on the Supreme Court puts religious dogma above the law and the constitution. It is grossly inappropriate.

Tansy_Gold

(17,935 posts)
24. I wish some reporter would just come out and ask these RWNJs
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 02:57 PM
Jun 10

"Can we require Christian teaching in all the schools? Will the population allow us to close mosques, synagogues, and other abominations? After we outlaw abortion and contraception in all cases, even to save the mother's life, can we take away women's right to vote? How soon do you think we can re-enslave non-whites? Do you think we'll have to build extermination camps to get our godly country back? Can we really finish what Hitler started?"

Get them on the record. Maybe it will wake some people up enough to get off their butts and vote.

SpankMe

(3,010 posts)
29. Dude needs to be impeached and removed
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 03:16 PM
Jun 10

I know it isn't even remotely possible, but a boy can dream. All we need is 67 senators...easy-peasy.

He's too partisan. He's qualified to be a board member at American Enterprise or the American Nazi party. He's wholly unqualified to be an associate justice of the SCOTUS.

30. Nothing New
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 03:18 PM
Jun 10

He’s been a disgrace and disobeyed law since his first day. He should’ve never been allowed anywhere near the judiciary. Of all people this cruel pos will be karma corrected.

Warpy

(111,837 posts)
31. It's a pity he doesn't consider the constitution his guideline
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 03:38 PM
Jun 10

He's on some sort of Christian Jihad and he really needs to be ousted. He is unfit to sit on that bench.

ultralite001

(926 posts)
41. Time to take a closer look...
Mon Jun 10, 2024, 04:13 PM
Jun 10

at the membership of the Supreme Court Historical Society....

Methinks more than food + fellowship is afoot...

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