After 7 years... Snopes calls Trump "fine people" claim FALSE.

[WarGamer]

Kind of strange timing... just days before the debate. Did tech moguls pressure Snopes? Trump himself?

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-very-fine-people/

On Aug. 15, 2017, then-President Donald Trump called neo-Nazis and white supremacists who attended the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, "very fine people."

FALSE

Context
In a news conference after the rally protesting the planned removal of a Confederate statue, Trump did say there were "very fine people on both sides," referring to the protesters and the counterprotesters. He said in the same statement he wasn't talking about neo-Nazis and white nationalists, who he said should be "condemned totally."

[jimfields33]

1. Wow. Kinda late. And really worthless anyway.

No one who supported trump believed it and those that did knew what type of person he is and what his phrase really meant which was what was reported. Trump definitely is a white supremacy type.

[Ocelot II]

2. Snopes is correct; I remember when the statement was made.

But "very fine people on both sides" was bad enough, and the implication was clear.

[ColinC]

3. Kinda a matter of interpretation. Said there were very fine people on both sides. One of those sides was inarguably

White supremacists. I would argue he absolutely did call them very fine people. Just not explicitly.

[live love laugh]

4. Snopes is a RW owned tool now. The question is purposely posed wrong

It makes it easy to make a full denial — but “very fine people on both sides” in the context of the situation then amounts to calling them fine people.

[WarGamer]

9. sure?

MBFC rates it highly factual and on the left side of Least Biased

[live love laugh]

12. That was 10 years ago. Currently notsomuch.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

5. I have not trusted Snopes for a while

[bluesbassman]

6. Trump is lousy at many things, but he does have one gift; he knows how to get his toe a micron away from the line.

It's why his lies and bullshit has become normalized over the years.

[EYESORE 9001]

7. I'm not one for watching a lot of political videos

but I recall that repulsive phrase wafting from his putrid piehole in excruciating detail.

[RockRaven]

8. The way he babbles everything requires paraphrasing and interpretation.

And he always talks out of both sides of his mouth in a self-contradictory fashion. For instance, saying one thing about the protesters and counterprotesters, then saying something different about white supremacists and neonazis when the protesters were white supremacists and neonazis.

Arguing about what he meant is a pretty big waste of time, and a distraction.

[unblock]

10. as noted in the snopes article, his comments got a hearty thank you from david duke, so draw your own conclusions.

i'm thinking a mob boss who says "i'm not talking about killing anyone, but it sure would be nice if that guy were to suddenly drop dead."

or claiming that poppy didn't break his "no new taxes" pledge when he signed a tax increase because, well, that wasn't an *new* tax, it was an increase in an old tax.

i mean, c'mon. sometimes it's clear what someone is trying to communicate, even if a narrow reading of the words doesn't align exactly.

yeah he allowed that there were bad people also (on *both* sides, he said, and went into more detail describing the people on the left he objected to), and he had trouble identifying exactly who the bad on the right were ("... some rough, bad people. neo-nazis, white supremacists, whatever you wanna call them", and didn't go into any detail as to what made them bad.)

[unblock]

11. another point is that the comment was 7 years ago. he's become even more overtly a white supremacist/nazi since then.

his nominal hedging was obviously just muddying the waters at the time, the clear intent was to throw support to the alt-right.

if he made the speech today he wouldn't hedge. bringing up that he hedged 7 years ago takes away from who he is today.

an even more extreme white supremacists/neo-nazi himself.

[Captain Stern]

13. I used to love Snopes.

I thought they provided a valuable resource. They took the time to do the research, and then gave objective restults.

But, then they debunked something that I really wanted to be true, so now I don't like them any more.

[Peacetrain]

14. Snopes is right and wrong at the same time..

Trump did say there were good people on both sides.. people who wanted the statues taken down and those who wanted them to stay up. true that

also true was that the Nazis and white supremist's marched in support of keeping up the statues of a failed insurrection to destroy our country in the same town at the same time the pro and anti statue demonstrations were going on ..

[Kingofalldems]

15. He did the old--say what you mean first.......

then modify the statement later. Internet trolls do that all the time.