NYT via TPM: Trump Widens Lead After Biden's Debate Debacle, (LV 49-43, RV 49-41)

[Bucky]

Trump Widens Lead After Biden’s Debate Debacle, Times/Siena Poll Finds

Donald Trump is ahead of President Biden by six percentage points among likely voters in a new national survey. Overall, 74 percent of voters view Mr. Biden as too old for the job, an uptick since the debate.

Mr. Trump now leads Mr. Biden 49 percent to 43 percent among likely voters nationally, a three-point swing toward the Republican from just a week earlier, before the debate. It is the largest lead Mr. Trump has recorded in a Times/Siena poll since 2015. Mr. Trump leads by even more among registered voters, 49 percent to 41 percent.

Doubts about Mr. Biden’s age and acuity are widespread and growing. A majority of every demographic, geographic and ideological group in the poll — including Black voters and those who said they will still be voting for him — believe Mr. Biden, 81, is too old to be effective.

Overall, 74 percent of voters view him as too old for the job, up five percentage points since the debate. Concerns about Mr. Biden’s age have spiked eight percentage points among Democrats in the week since the debate, to 59 percent. The share of independent voters who said they felt that way rose to 79 percent, nearly matching the Republican view of the president.

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Of course it'll get worse after their convention and better after ours. That's how it generally runs, although I kinda remember Trump not getting that much of a bump in the very unusual year of 2020.

[rso]

1. TSO

Actually, the same exact NYT poll showed the exact same numbers in April. Not a good thing for sure, but the debate did not affect the numbers.

[Bucky]

2. What's TSO?

[Mossfern]

3. Trendy Soap Opera?

[Bucky]

5. Total System Override

[Xavier Breath]

11. They seem to have a habit of posting their name (rso) at the top of each post.

Maybe it's a typo.

[Bucky]

4. The NYTes tracker has them 3 points apart

Election 2024 Polls: Biden vs. Trump https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/us/elections/polls-president.html?smid=nytcore-android-share

If you look at the graph, there's been a widening of the gap since June 27. We have to counter this narrative fast.

[beaglelover]

6. These polls today are really bad for Biden. Very depressing but not surprising after last week.

[Bucky]

7. Not "very" depressing, I don't think

But it's actually kind of encouraging. Had it been a Romney or a Dole or a McCain, we'd be 15 points down. Much of the country remembers what Trump did and know what he promises to do worse next time around.

I repeat, it's time to go on the attack

[Calista241]

8. In 2020, Biden had millions more total votes than Trump, but in the states that matter, he won by less than 100k votes.

If a very small number of people in Georgia, Arizona, Nevada, and Michigan choose not to show up, we're going to suffer a whole lot of President Trump.

[Bucky]

9. Georgia, Nevada, Maine, & New Hampshire worry me

Michigan and Arizona less so.
Wisconsin shouldn't worry me, but it does.

[LisaL]

10. Hey, NYT, keep writing those stupid ass stories about Biden.

Since if you displease Trump in any way, he will call on military tribunals for your behinds.