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ecstatic

(34,572 posts)
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 08:31 AM Jul 2024

Should RFK Jr get secret service protection now?

One of the talking heads is saying rfkj should get protection because we don't need to see another Kennedy shot.

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Should RFK Jr get secret service protection now? (Original Post) ecstatic Jul 2024 OP
Who'd even bother with him? Ocelot II Jul 2024 #1
Let's not risk it and find out. jimfields33 Jul 2024 #2
It's annoying because he's running as a spoiler ecstatic Jul 2024 #4
rfk might be the one that so many dissappointed trumpers would be willing to vote for. Think. Again. Jul 2024 #9
Why? people get shot everyday. Think. Again. Jul 2024 #5
He has had a numbers of death threats womanofthehills Jul 2024 #21
Nah. Kids in school deserve secret service protection. Or something to keep them safe Autumn Jul 2024 #3
Now THAT makes sense! Think. Again. Jul 2024 #6
Is he on all 50 States ballots? Emile Jul 2024 #7
He's got 10% to 11% in many polls womanofthehills Jul 2024 #22
Absolutely, but he should have had it already. Groundhawg Jul 2024 #8
worms don't care about guns. Think. Again. Jul 2024 #10
Just as good as JFK's. usonian Jul 2024 #11
Does Cornell West and Jill Stein get it too? Mountainguy Jul 2024 #12
No. Some anti-dem billionaire just gave him $5 million. viva la Jul 2024 #13
Biden already announced he ordered protection for him too along with overall enhanced protection wishstar Jul 2024 #14
Yes. Our President Joe Biden decided it was needed. I assume he knows more about it than I do. Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2024 #26
His polling doesn't warrant Secret Service LiberalFighter Jul 2024 #15
why? Is there some serious threat from republican shooters? bigtree Jul 2024 #16
I think he probably should democrattotheend Jul 2024 #17
No Rebl2 Jul 2024 #18
He should drop out of the race and take his worm to Hyannis for the summer. Vinca Jul 2024 #19
Nah. BannonsLiver Jul 2024 #20
SS Protection Criteria TheProle Jul 2024 #23
thanks for sharing ecstatic Jul 2024 #25
Not really special treatment. bottomofthehill Jul 2024 #28
No XanaDUer2 Jul 2024 #24
Yes Metaphorical Jul 2024 #27
First, TFG is NOT POTUS and second it seems that Bob is upset that he caught trying to help TFG beat the real President LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #29
 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
2. Let's not risk it and find out.
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 08:35 AM
Jul 2024

He definitely should get secret security detail. Doesn’t have to be president Biden or trump amount but some protection wouldn’t hurt.

ecstatic

(34,572 posts)
4. It's annoying because he's running as a spoiler
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 08:41 AM
Jul 2024

and he needs to drop out! But at the same time, if something happens to him, everyone will be pointing a finger at President Biden. 🙄

womanofthehills

(9,389 posts)
21. He has had a numbers of death threats
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 10:31 AM
Jul 2024

& a man broke into his house. He & his VP candidate need it. All we need is another murder for all hell to break lose.

womanofthehills

(9,389 posts)
22. He's got 10% to 11% in many polls
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 10:37 AM
Jul 2024

Says he has enough signatures for 27 states as of a few days ago.

Mountainguy

(1,074 posts)
12. Does Cornell West and Jill Stein get it too?
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 09:17 AM
Jul 2024

What about Alice Cooper?

No, there are laws on who gets protection and if he qualifies under those then he should and of not then he shouldn't.

He has plenty of money to hire private security if he wants it.

viva la

(3,886 posts)
13. No. Some anti-dem billionaire just gave him $5 million.
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 09:40 AM
Jul 2024

He can pay for his own security.

wishstar

(5,511 posts)
14. Biden already announced he ordered protection for him too along with overall enhanced protection
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 09:47 AM
Jul 2024

Pretty sure I heard him say that in one of his addresses this past weekend

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,628 posts)
26. Yes. Our President Joe Biden decided it was needed. I assume he knows more about it than I do.
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 04:35 PM
Jul 2024

democrattotheend

(12,011 posts)
17. I think he probably should
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 09:57 AM
Jul 2024

As someone else said, if something happens to him and he didn't have SS protection Biden will take the blame for it. Also, as silly as it sounds, his name/family alone makes him slightly more vulnerable because sometimes people do copycat shootings.

TheProle

(3,115 posts)
23. SS Protection Criteria
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 10:40 AM
Jul 2024
https://www.secretservice.gov/protection/leaders/campaign-2024

When determining whether a candidate for the Office of President or Vice President of the United States qualifies as a major candidate, the Secretary has broad discretion and may consider a variety of factors. These factors include, but are not limited to:

Whether the candidate has publicly announced his or her candidacy and has filed the appropriate documentation with the Federal Election Commission (FEC) and is in compliance with the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971, as amended, and related laws;
Whether the candidate is actively campaigning on a national basis for the office for which his or her candidacy has been announced, as demonstrated by operating a national campaign apparatus, regularly appearing at public events in multiple states, producing and publishing campaign advertisements, and other similar indicia of a campaign;
A threat assessment conducted by the Secret Service of general or specific threats directed towards the candidate (for these purposes, “threats” should be defined as explicit threats of bodily harm to the candidate or indications of inappropriate behavior towards the candidate suggesting potential bodily harm);
Whether, during and within an active and competitive major party primary, the most recent average of established national polls, as reflected by the Real Clear Politics National Average or similar mechanism, the candidate is polling at 15% or more for 30 consecutive days;
Whether the candidate is the formal or de facto nominee of a major party for President or Vice President;
Whether the candidate is an independent or third-party candidate for President polling at 20% or more of the Real Clear Politics National Average for 30 consecutive days;
Whether the candidate is the Vice Presidential running mate of the above independent or third-party candidate.

ecstatic

(34,572 posts)
25. thanks for sharing
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 04:31 PM
Jul 2024

So basically he will get special treatment.

RFK Jr. to receive Secret Service protection after Trump assassination attempt
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/15/trump-shooting-rfk-to-secret-service-protection.html

bottomofthehill

(8,943 posts)
28. Not really special treatment.
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 05:56 PM
Jul 2024

One of the criteria, a threat assessment conducted by the secret service of general or specific threat. Clearly, there are threats. Some numb nut would like to be the person to kill the next Kennedy. Although I don’t agree with him on about half his nonsense, his running for President has raised his profile and thus his exposure to harm.

Metaphorical

(2,357 posts)
27. Yes
Mon Jul 15, 2024, 05:07 PM
Jul 2024

1. His pedigree. Yes, it's unlikely, but the Kennedys seem to attract tragic endings.
2. One assassination attempt already. I'm honestly worried about copycats at this stage. Same goes for the rest of the candidates.
3. Goodwill. I don't see Kennedy attracting all that many votes from Biden, but with the announcement of Vance as Trump's VP, Trump has also basically made it clear he has no intention of moving to the left, and this is going to alienate a fair amount of soft Trump support him on the off-chance that he'll "reform".
4. Excuse to reassign Trump's SS detail. This one's a bit convoluted, but I can't help but think that it was awfully convenient that a 20 year old young man with no military training was able to elude crack SS guards, climb one of the only unguarded buildings with a line of site in the area (take a look at the fairground map), set up and shoot several shots - and that he was mysteriously killed before he could be captured. By beefing up security, Biden can also clear out those who might be more loyal to Trump than they should be.

LetMyPeopleVote

(156,305 posts)
29. First, TFG is NOT POTUS and second it seems that Bob is upset that he caught trying to help TFG beat the real President
Tue Jul 16, 2024, 12:49 PM
Jul 2024

Bob is being funded by TFG supporters and is in this race only to help TFG



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