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Trump second guessing Vance as VP pick. LO fricking L (Original Post) boston bean Jul 2024 OP
I guess we can file lawsuits to stop him from dumping the male supremacist. nt The Unmitigated Gall Jul 2024 #1
Ha! Perfect! Bucky Jul 2024 #37
Lol Bristlecone Jul 2024 #80
any details with this assertion? Skittles Jul 2024 #2
It was reported on msnbc by Tim Alberta. boston bean Jul 2024 #9
Sounds like baloney Bucky Jul 2024 #39
According to who/what? Story? Tweet? oldsoftie Jul 2024 #3
Reported by Tim Alberta on msnbc. boston bean Jul 2024 #11
Thank you oldsoftie Jul 2024 #21
It's all over the media (except for Fox) Emile Jul 2024 #20
Thanks.. Did they give any reasons, Emile? Cha Jul 2024 #71
Just guessing, but... LudwigPastorius Jul 2024 #84
lol @ his mulligan. Thanks! Cha Jul 2024 #87
It's like an episode from his reality TV show. "You're fired." Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #4
Does Trump now wish he had picked Rubio? Frasier Balzov Jul 2024 #5
LOL, Vance or Rubio Skittles Jul 2024 #12
Oh, that's a GOOD one! MyOwnPeace Jul 2024 #35
Omg tavernier Jul 2024 #63
Which is Lyle, of course. Sky Jewels Jul 2024 #78
Tim Scott is smiling widely! Please pick me!!! BlueWaveNeverEnd Jul 2024 #25
Source? brooklynite Jul 2024 #6
Tim Alberta reported on msnbc. boston bean Jul 2024 #10
he's trying to take over the news cycle mucifer Jul 2024 #7
1000X This!!! Exactly!!!! Since Dems are getting coverage for VP possibilities, all of a sudden the false mimicry diva77 Jul 2024 #13
But, how does this NOT make trump look weak if he changes his VP?? mucifer Jul 2024 #14
Maybe he doesn't care as long as he gets attention diva77 Jul 2024 #15
He is very likely that stupid. nt oldsoftie Jul 2024 #22
It would make him look weak and desperate, anciano Jul 2024 #18
And what will Thiel and Musk think? moonscape Jul 2024 #66
true but how humiliating for Vance. well... everyone knows how un-loyal trump is. BlueWaveNeverEnd Jul 2024 #24
Maybe, just maybe....... MyOwnPeace Jul 2024 #36
Maybe they told him about the latex glove Captain Zero Jul 2024 #70
He was a stupid pick to begin with. What did he bring, except negative bagge? "Hillbilly Elegy"? Trump had those votes OAITW r.2.0 Jul 2024 #76
agreed. Maybe Tim Scott or Rubio would have brought over some diversity to the GOP BlueWaveNeverEnd Jul 2024 #90
If he does angrychair Jul 2024 #91
Sorry Vance. You're fired. 😂 GoodRaisin Jul 2024 #88
My ForgedCrank Jul 2024 #8
Gonna set the new record Diraven Jul 2024 #16
Trump wants to be the Strong Man GenThePerservering Jul 2024 #17
The strongman with tiny hands, hairspray, makeup, and a fresh pantload Blue Owl Jul 2024 #19
Will Vance last a Scaramucci? Prairie Gates Jul 2024 #23
See post 41 Polybius Jul 2024 #42
Super weird that you replied to this joke post Prairie Gates Jul 2024 #46
It was a joke that seemed to be partially serious Polybius Jul 2024 #48
OK buddy Prairie Gates Jul 2024 #50
Ok there Polybius Jul 2024 #51
Huh? Prairie Gates Jul 2024 #53
1,673 posts? Polybius Jul 2024 #55
Huh? Prairie Gates Jul 2024 #56
You crack yourself up Polybius Jul 2024 #62
Cracks me up, too! dpibel Jul 2024 #92
Vance's big mouth has already cost tRump millions of votes so hope he is kept on as VP. nt ImNotGod Jul 2024 #26
From 'The New Republic'. Vance was picked when Trump team thought election was going to be a blow out.. Trump vs Biden BlueWaveNeverEnd Jul 2024 #27
Thinking Trump is prolly going totally off the rails in private. Moses Mike Johnson threatens to sue DEMs for fraud? Attilatheblond Jul 2024 #86
I wonder if he's seen this pic? Abolishinist Jul 2024 #28
Trump is jealous of all the attention Dems are getting MaryMagdaline Jul 2024 #29
TFG wants more money from Vance or Thiel Raven123 Jul 2024 #30
The dumbass doesn't get that Vance is not the problem. madinmaryland Jul 2024 #31
To be fair they both are. lol Cha Jul 2024 #73
Very true. madinmaryland Jul 2024 #94
LOL!!!! Vance is the one the Heritage Foundation wants. valleyrogue Jul 2024 #32
Exactly. I have said Vance is running for president. Raven123 Jul 2024 #33
I thought people were saying Putin picked Vance? captain queeg Jul 2024 #34
Trump thinks this whole thing is an episode of the apprentice. Klarkashton Jul 2024 #38
Wonder if the melon felon Alliepoo Jul 2024 #40
He can not drop Vance unless Vance himself agrees Polybius Jul 2024 #41
You think Vance would insist on staying on the ticket if Trump wanted him off? Prairie Gates Jul 2024 #44
Why not? Polybius Jul 2024 #47
Considering what happened to Trump's last vice president democrattotheend Jul 2024 #59
In some ways, I feel that Vance may be even further to the Right than Trump Polybius Jul 2024 #60
Such a poor choice servermsh Jul 2024 #43
Throw him off the ticket Renew Deal Jul 2024 #45
Maybe if Vance could borrow a wig and an outfit from Rudy? lpbk2713 Jul 2024 #49
There's more than one way oldtime dfl_er Jul 2024 #52
You'd think they couldn't be that fucking stupid to let that get out if that's the case. There would have to be some brewens Jul 2024 #54
But he's so masculine with makeup a real mans man like drump Tribetime Jul 2024 #57
I think he's looking to replace the wrong guy. dchill Jul 2024 #58
Aren't they locked in from the RNC convention? MerryBlooms Jul 2024 #61
I think he'll have to take it up with Putin. The guy who picked him. dchill Jul 2024 #64
Delicious lizardkingjr Jul 2024 #65
I think I called it first ecstatic Jul 2024 #67
LOL... What's not for TSF to like.... Putin Lover.. Cha Jul 2024 #68
Thiel and Musk bought Vance GenThePerservering Jul 2024 #69
Buyer's remorse? Mme. Defarge Jul 2024 #72
Maybe Pence's head fly is available. MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2024 #74
Ok that made me laugh! Thx Nt AloeVera Jul 2024 #82
YW MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2024 #98
Watching MSNBC: they're not saying Trump regrets Vance Bucky Jul 2024 #75
Absolutely not the case. boston bean Jul 2024 #96
that's ok onethatcares Jul 2024 #97
I just sent this to my peeps. Applies to your post. Read till the end. applegrove Jul 2024 #77
This will be fun to watch LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #79
Will they build a gallows for JD? keithbvadu2 Jul 2024 #81
Love the humour on this thread! AloeVera Jul 2024 #83
Is Nikki sitting by her phone? spanone Jul 2024 #85
I just read an article by Tim Alberta in the Atlantic Cha Jul 2024 #89
My guess is he'll ask Nikki Haley. mucholderthandirt Jul 2024 #93
how many scaramucci's for vance? jcgoldie Jul 2024 #95
Trump is not second guessing, Trump allies are second guessing Chakaconcarne Jul 2024 #99

LudwigPastorius

(12,048 posts)
84. Just guessing, but...
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 12:28 AM
Jul 2024

Trump thinks he just lost the few women and black voters he had. (he may have)

His mulligan would probably be Ben Carson or Elise Stefanik.

Cha

(309,239 posts)
87. lol @ his mulligan. Thanks!
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 12:36 AM
Jul 2024

lol @ Ben Carson?

Yeah he thought Vance's big nasty mouth and a Putin lover would do the trick. Wrong.

mucifer

(25,093 posts)
7. he's trying to take over the news cycle
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 09:07 PM
Jul 2024

he needs attention on himself CONSTANTLY and the press usually does his bidding . Will see what happens.

diva77

(7,880 posts)
13. 1000X This!!! Exactly!!!! Since Dems are getting coverage for VP possibilities, all of a sudden the false mimicry
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 09:16 PM
Jul 2024

chump uses kicks in and starts to overshadow whatever press Dems were getting.

I can see the headlines now above the fold:

OMG Will Chump dump his VP???



and then on page 3, in small font:

Possible Dem VP picks

OAITW r.2.0

(29,799 posts)
76. He was a stupid pick to begin with. What did he bring, except negative bagge? "Hillbilly Elegy"? Trump had those votes
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 11:44 PM
Jul 2024

Watching how Trump reacts is going to be enjoyable.

angrychair

(10,461 posts)
91. If he does
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 01:38 AM
Jul 2024

Do we get to call them the "DEI.pick"? (Never would do that but it is funny to think about rubbing their own words in their face)

Diraven

(1,336 posts)
16. Gonna set the new record
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 09:22 PM
Jul 2024

For the fastest exit of a Trump admin official. Anthony Scaramucci has the old record of 10 days. 🤣

GenThePerservering

(2,728 posts)
17. Trump wants to be the Strong Man
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 09:26 PM
Jul 2024

Who will throw anybody he wants into the trash and pick some other servile bootlicker. He doesn't give a shit about Vance.

Prairie Gates

(4,700 posts)
23. Will Vance last a Scaramucci?
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 09:36 PM
Jul 2024


So far, he's lasted almost half a Mooch.

This is the kind of stupid shit we have to look forward to if that asshat is reelected.

Polybius

(19,626 posts)
48. It was a joke that seemed to be partially serious
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 10:29 PM
Jul 2024

I thought you legitimately believed that he may not last as long as the Mooch.

Polybius

(19,626 posts)
51. Ok there
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 10:32 PM
Jul 2024

There's no need to be nasty for absolutely no reason at all. The things that upset people here are truly mindboggling.

BlueWaveNeverEnd

(10,847 posts)
27. From 'The New Republic'. Vance was picked when Trump team thought election was going to be a blow out.. Trump vs Biden
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 09:41 PM
Jul 2024
Why Trump Suddenly Thinks Picking J.D. Vance Was a Mistake
Joe Biden’s decision to drop out and endorse Kamala Harris to succeed him on the Democratic ticket has Donald Trump’s team scrambling.



Trump campaign officials acknowledged that Trump selected the inexperienced Vance, charged with all his techno-authoritarian ideas, to boost support among their own base, not extend a hand to swing voters, according to The Atlantic. Vance was a symbol of the Trump team’s assuredness that they would win in 2024. Come Sunday, that assuredness appears to be shrinking.

“Most striking thing I heard from Trump allies yesterday was the second-guessing of JD Vance—a selection, they acknowledged, that was [born] of cockiness, meant to run up margins with the base in a blowout rather than persuade swing voters in a nail-biter,” Atlantic staff writer Tim Alberta, who had written the piece about the panicking Trump campaign, posted on X (formerly Twitter).

Trump decried Biden’s decision to drop out in a post on Truth Social, writing that his team would have to “start all over again” and asking to be reimbursed for the cost. At the same time, Vance has set straight to work, calling for Biden to resign from the presidency.

https://newrepublic.com/post/184106/trump-picking-jd-vance-mistake-biden-kamala-harris

Attilatheblond

(5,573 posts)
86. Thinking Trump is prolly going totally off the rails in private. Moses Mike Johnson threatens to sue DEMs for fraud?
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 12:31 AM
Jul 2024

Oh man, Mikie must be getting a lot of hysterical screaming calls from Trump to DO SOMETHING to stop this DEM switch-a-roo that throws monkey wrenches in all his sure thing plans.

That and Trump posting they should be reimbursed for all the money they already spend on anti-biden merch. ROFL
He still doesn't grasp that life in politics is not the same as bullying and screwing over contractors.

The man just ain't right in the head. But we all knew that a long LONG time ago.

Re Vance on the GOP ticket: I sorta figure Theil and others were planning for Trump to be elected, then leave office, one way or another, so their bought boy becomes POTUS. Vance, being young, would be a useful puppet for years, maybe decades if those pigs get their way destroying the government as we know it.

Raven123

(6,517 posts)
33. Exactly. I have said Vance is running for president.
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 09:50 PM
Jul 2024

Who knows? TFG better be careful, less he is the one booted off the ticket. Vance has money. Doesn’t need TFG.

Alliepoo

(2,675 posts)
40. Wonder if the melon felon
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 10:10 PM
Jul 2024

Is gonna dump ol’ jd and get himself a female candidate to try to appeal more to women? Bet nikki h would hop right on that. Or maybe even ivanka.

Polybius

(19,626 posts)
41. He can not drop Vance unless Vance himself agrees
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 10:19 PM
Jul 2024

The Convention nominated them, and they secured the nomination.

Polybius

(19,626 posts)
47. Why not?
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 10:27 PM
Jul 2024

I would. Trump is old and likely unhealthy. If he wins, there's an excellent chance that Vance becomes President.

democrattotheend

(12,011 posts)
59. Considering what happened to Trump's last vice president
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 10:36 PM
Jul 2024

If I were JD Vance, I would be a little nervous to stay on a ticket with Trump if he decided he didn't want me there.

Polybius

(19,626 posts)
60. In some ways, I feel that Vance may be even further to the Right than Trump
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 10:38 PM
Jul 2024

Terrifying to think of him as being next in line for President.

servermsh

(1,406 posts)
43. Such a poor choice
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 10:24 PM
Jul 2024

I was thrilled when Trump made this dumb mistake. I was fearful Trump would pick some wild young celebrity to get crazy press coverage.

 

brewens

(15,359 posts)
54. You'd think they couldn't be that fucking stupid to let that get out if that's the case. There would have to be some
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 10:34 PM
Jul 2024

better way to play it if they really wanted to switch now. I'd go with the private plane crash, but that's just me.

MerryBlooms

(11,917 posts)
61. Aren't they locked in from the RNC convention?
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 10:38 PM
Jul 2024

How are they going to dump half their ticket, after their convention?
This mus be BS!

ecstatic

(34,703 posts)
67. I think I called it first
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 10:54 PM
Jul 2024

They have no chemistry whatsoever.

Vance's rally was super cringey--worse jokes than tiny d. And he is 100% linked to abortion bans, ivf bans, and project 2025.

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
75. Watching MSNBC: they're not saying Trump regrets Vance
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 11:36 PM
Jul 2024

They're reporting (so far) that some Republicans in general are having "buyer's remorse" over Vance's nomination.

Maybe that'll change later in the broadcast and someone will say Trump is thinking that way. But Trump himself changing his mind, or even questioning his own judgement, on any decision seems pretty off-brand to me.

onethatcares

(16,752 posts)
97. that's ok
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 11:33 AM
Jul 2024

it's about time the Democrats flood the zone and put rumors out there that just might be true. Someone on the other side talked of doing that but he's having 3 hots and a cot recently and no access to a microphone

applegrove

(125,427 posts)
77. I just sent this to my peeps. Applies to your post. Read till the end.
Mon Jul 22, 2024, 11:47 PM
Jul 2024
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219220177

"SNIP.........

Sorry, they have to carry him to term': Mockery after expert jokes Vance may get yanked

Daniel Hampton
July 22, 2024 10:59PM ET

The internet on Monday mocked former President Donald Trump's running mate amid news that Kamala Harris is now on the Democratic side of the ballot, with a Republican strategist posting on social media that Vance is "about to get the call to do the right thing."

snip

On Monday night, Mike Madrid, co-founder of The Lincoln Project, stirred the pot by suggesting Vance — much like Biden — will also get the "call to do the right thing."

"nope, sorry, they have to carry him to term," replied @goldengateblond to Madrid, including a dig at Vance's abortion stance.

"Abusive couples have to stay together!" chided @CAMadScientist, a dig at Vance's remarks that women ought to remain married even if they’re being abused.

snip

Full story

Ouch, lol.

.........SNIP"

Cha

(309,239 posts)
89. I just read an article by Tim Alberta in the Atlantic
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 01:23 AM
Jul 2024

about TSF.

He sounds like he knows what he's talking about.

mucholderthandirt

(1,418 posts)
93. My guess is he'll ask Nikki Haley.
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 07:30 AM
Jul 2024

No one else would pick up any of the votes Trump may think he had and lost. I don't think at this point it would make any difference, she's basically Trump in six inch heels with a slightly better speaking style.

Any woman who was fooled into voting for Trump after that, well, they deserve what they get.

Chakaconcarne

(2,748 posts)
99. Trump is not second guessing, Trump allies are second guessing
Tue Jul 23, 2024, 04:25 PM
Jul 2024

"As the incumbent stands down, the party’s recent moves are being reassessed and recontextualized. Tim Alberta wrote for The Atlantic:

[Top officials on the Republican campaign team] know that from the moment they partnered with Trump, everything they intended for this campaign—the messaging, the advertising, the microtargeting, the ground game, the mail pieces, the digital engagement, the social-media maneuvers—was designed to defeat Joe Biden. Even the selection of Ohio’s Senator J. D. Vance as Trump’s running mate, campaign officials acknowledged, was something of a luxury meant to run up margins with the base in a blowout rather than persuade swing voters in a nail-biter.

That luxury is now gone. Alberta added via social media, “[The] most striking thing I heard from Trump allies yesterday was the second-guessing of JD Vance—a selection, they acknowledged, that was borne of cockiness, meant to run up margins with the base in a blowout.”

Oops."

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-allies-reconsider-jd-vance-right-running-mate-rcna163172

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