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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIMO there is no point to "debating" the orange clown who Gish Gallops along.
With no live fact check it would be like VP Harris standing in the surf screaming for the tide to halt.
In AZ Governor Hobbs refused to debate MAGA lie-a-second Scary Lake.
Hobbs got elected.
AllaN01Bear
(22,251 posts)agreed . t.. wants a debate , backs out, now wants a debate only on state tv ( faux noizw). ms harris wants a debate any time any where . do it in my living room for all that matters .
The Gish gallop is a rhetorical technique in which a person in a debate attempts to overwhelm an opponent by abandoning formal debating principles, providing an excessive number of arguments with no regard for the accuracy or strength of those arguments and that are impossible to address adequately in the time allotted to the opponent. Gish galloping prioritizes the quantity of the galloper's arguments at the expense of their quality.
SWBTATTReg
(23,511 posts)keep_left
(2,137 posts)...who may not have invented the concept, but he certainly perfected it.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_Gallop
Charmin One
(128 posts)Mention some Trump lies, string them together and draw the conclusion that Trump is PATHOLOGICAL and shouldnt be elected to ANY office.
Raven123
(5,806 posts)1) He knows he will get softballs from FOX and no fact checking
2) He doesnt want to pay for indoor public events, so this way someone else will do it
3) As this weekend shows, he cant fill an arena, so he hopes Harris will do so and then he will claim credit.
All good reasons to laugh at this offer. And then decline.
regnaD kciN
(26,417 posts)he wants a packed MAGA audience that will erupt in applause for every answer he gives, and drown out Harris with boos every time she tries to say anything.
LetMyPeopleVote
(151,707 posts)These changes are not acceptable
stopdiggin
(12,364 posts)has it's own price tag. And it's a good one!
unblock
(53,863 posts)And because of that, you can almost completely prepare a "response" and unload it at any point after he fish gallops.
Just pick *one* lie, quickly identify it (most of his lies are pretty damn obvious), then launch into how many lies he's told (the Washington post documented over 30,000 during his presidency, never mind the lies he's told before and since then.)
The launch into how you can't trust him because he lies so often. How he can't effectively negotiate on the world stage because no one else can trust him. Continue to bash him over integrity. Call him weak for being afraid to tell the truth.
Then pivot into your own vision of the topic at hand and say you will tell the truth, face the facts,, and find solutions that work for all Americans and promise to be honest with the American people.
Then sum up with how much he's a liar and you'll tell the truth and we can't go back to his lies, his weirdness, his vanity, his insults, his fearmongering, not to mention his criminality.
It's almost entirely a canned speech, it could be memorized other than identifying the one lie out of the spew of lies we all know he will deliver.
kairos12
(13,122 posts)mitch96
(14,428 posts)tfg can rant/scream wave his arms all he wants but no one will hear him. He will just hear the moderator and Harris.. No wandering over to physically try to intimidate Harris. No interruptions. Just debate..
But you and I know he would NEVER agree to this...It would take away his super power.. being an asshole..
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H2O Man
(74,754 posts)I don't think there is much of a chance of a debate.