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Evolve Dammit

(18,285 posts)
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 05:31 PM Sep 10

I guess what bothers me the most is how MSM has normalized a coup plotter/enabler, convicted felon and a rapist

and hold the Dems to a much higher level of scrutiny. On it's face it is not objective journalism.
I know many have long held that MSM is corrupt and minimally, malleable. I am concurring at this point. I think the owners just want ratings which equals dollars at the expense of honest reporting. CBS President admitted such in 2017 or so.
But here's the thing. The CO Supreme Court ruled "him" ineligible to be on the ballot for his role in 1/6 effort to subvert the electoral process in what should be termed a coup attempt based on the language of the Constitution. SCOTUS overruled the decision, which I didn't think could happen (States Rights and all), but a clear violation of the 14th Amendment of the Constitution.
That was the first tell that has now become an apparent protection racket for the criminal mob boss by way of the immunity decision. Citizens United, Dobbs and Roe were other "decisions" that were years in the making that have had a huge impact on our society.
I just never thought it could be corrupted this easily, and am damn angry about it.
I will not watch tonight for my own sanity (thanks RandySF).
That said, I hope Kamala smacks him up side his demented head as often as is necessary, especially if he does the stalking shit he did with Hillary. He is a clear and present domestic threat and should be in prison.

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I guess what bothers me the most is how MSM has normalized a coup plotter/enabler, convicted felon and a rapist (Original Post) Evolve Dammit Sep 10 OP
Not to mention being a ruskie ASSet! SheltieLover Sep 10 #1
Having the unredacted Mueller report may have lifted the veil. But alas, DOJ seems incapable. Evolve Dammit Sep 10 #15
Incapable or unwilling? SheltieLover Sep 10 #20
amounts to the same, right? Evolve Dammit Sep 10 #23
Same bottom line, but very different intention. SheltieLover Sep 10 #25
Why be surprised? orthoclad Sep 10 #2
I do listen to an, agreeably a small group of truthful journalists, such as Amy Goodman on Democracy Now. Evolve Dammit Sep 10 #13
There are still a few, orthoclad Sep 10 #37
Sadly yes Evolve Dammit Sep 11 #43
Not disagreeing. When MSM shut down all foreign bureaus in the 90's I knew we were fucked. Not this bad tho... Evolve Dammit Sep 10 #16
Almost as if they make more money when the country is in complete chaos... Eliot Rosewater Sep 10 #3
Agreed. Hang in brother Evolve Dammit Sep 10 #12
I will not watch the debate. lucca18 Sep 10 #4
I won't subject myself to his bullshit either. bullimiami Sep 10 #6
I hear ya big time. Evolve Dammit Sep 10 #11
They'll sane-wash orthoclad Sep 10 #38
This has put me totally off of msm. bullimiami Sep 10 #5
They are there to maintain the wealth and power of the owners. orthoclad Sep 10 #40
I think she's... 2naSalit Sep 10 #7
Undoubtedly, 2na! SheltieLover Sep 10 #21
Tomorrow's headline: MLF1981 Sep 10 #8
Very well stated. Thank you. I am just amazed at how all the "guardrails" were just driven through. It is fragile. n/t Evolve Dammit Sep 10 #9
And a big welcome to DU! Evolve Dammit Sep 10 #10
Thanks! MLF1981 Sep 10 #17
I lurked through the Bush/ Cheney admin. DU kept me sane. Evolve Dammit Sep 10 #19
I don't want to watch but I will Marthe48 Sep 10 #14
Traitor is exactly what he is. As is his family and all the sycophants from Manafort to Stone and thousands more. Evolve Dammit Sep 10 #18
The folks on TV lying are paid handsomely bad actors, if you could see/hear what they do, it would be a lot clearer. Brainfodder Sep 10 #22
I wish I could answer that. Truly. According to Project 2025, they have 35,000 lawyers and 20,000 Fed employees on board Evolve Dammit Sep 10 #24
The more who boycott the M$M the better Blue Owl Sep 10 #26
Amazing that it's all one person 0rganism Sep 10 #27
All true. Dangerously unprecedented. Evolve Dammit Sep 10 #28
It should bother everyone malaise Sep 10 #29
I guess I could have been more succinct, but yeah what Malaise said!! He shouldn't be on ANY ballot. Evolve Dammit Sep 10 #30
No sometimes we have to spell it out malaise Sep 10 #31
After all the word salads over the past couple years you'd think they would be calling it out like they did Biden's Evolve Dammit Sep 10 #33
It's scary malaise Sep 10 #35
It's like that doesn't matter. What only matters is what happens tonight. OAITW r.2.0 Sep 10 #32
The difference is scrutiny and objective observation is staggering. One is hyper observed and the other gets free pass. Evolve Dammit Sep 10 #34
None whatsoever malaise Sep 10 #36
Agreed. Glad she mopped the floor with him Evolve Dammit Sep 11 #45
He should be in prison, not on a debate stage. ecstatic Sep 10 #39
Exactly Evolve Dammit Sep 11 #42
I will not watch the debate on principle. bushalert Sep 10 #41
I was pleased to see recap today. I would not waste any more time on a lunatic. Evolve Dammit Sep 11 #44

orthoclad

(4,465 posts)
2. Why be surprised?
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 05:38 PM
Sep 10

Last edited Tue Sep 10, 2024, 08:14 PM - Edit history (1)

After all these years, hasn't it sunk in yet that "the Press" is owned lock, stock and barrel by the exact same oligarchs who would profit from a MAGA prez?

There is practically ZERO independent press left, not even the weeklies or locals.

Carl Hiaasen warned of this since the 90s.

edit: typo

Evolve Dammit

(18,285 posts)
13. I do listen to an, agreeably a small group of truthful journalists, such as Amy Goodman on Democracy Now.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 06:40 PM
Sep 10

Evolve Dammit

(18,285 posts)
16. Not disagreeing. When MSM shut down all foreign bureaus in the 90's I knew we were fucked. Not this bad tho...
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 06:44 PM
Sep 10

lucca18

(1,293 posts)
4. I will not watch the debate.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 05:43 PM
Sep 10

I can't stand looking at him.
I can't stand his voice.
I can't stand his lies.
He will not make any sense at the debate.
I guess the media will have to explain to us, what he was trying to say.
Disgusted.



bullimiami

(13,912 posts)
5. This has put me totally off of msm.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 05:43 PM
Sep 10

If they are there for entertainment. That’s a fail.
If they are supposed to be reporting the news. That’s an epic fail.
If they are their for their opinions. No thanks.

MLF1981

(182 posts)
8. Tomorrow's headline:
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 06:01 PM
Sep 10

Kamala Harris fails the test by not being perfect in every single way, while Donald Trump looked extremely Presidential.

No matter what she does, she's going to be unfairly criticized, and he is going to be lauded. Even if he audibly and odoriferously shits himself on stage mid-sentence, the MSM is going to ignore it or make excuses for him, and simultaneously tear her down. You know that line from Wargames, "The only winning move is not to play"? Even if she did that, she would be piled upon by a media apparatus that is firmly committed to making him seem like a serious and viable Presidential candidate.

"I just never thought it could be corrupted this easily, and am damn angry about it."

The founders of this country never envisioned that a venal, corrupt, utterly immoral, intellectually incurious and literally demented man like Trump would ever be taken seriously by the body politic. H.L. Mencken was more attuned to the average voter however:

“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”

Evolve Dammit

(18,285 posts)
9. Very well stated. Thank you. I am just amazed at how all the "guardrails" were just driven through. It is fragile. n/t
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 06:34 PM
Sep 10

MLF1981

(182 posts)
17. Thanks!
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 06:46 PM
Sep 10

I've actually been lurking since 2003, just recently decided to make an account and join the party!

Marthe48

(18,667 posts)
14. I don't want to watch but I will
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 06:40 PM
Sep 10

If I watch something that involves traitor talking, I mute him. After it's over, msm will be sure to play endless clips of him lying and normalize the hell out of his demented condition. And hammer VP Harris for whatever she says or does.

msm can f o

Evolve Dammit

(18,285 posts)
18. Traitor is exactly what he is. As is his family and all the sycophants from Manafort to Stone and thousands more.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 06:46 PM
Sep 10

Brainfodder

(7,152 posts)
22. The folks on TV lying are paid handsomely bad actors, if you could see/hear what they do, it would be a lot clearer.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 06:58 PM
Sep 10

They have writers and line producers and teleprompters to aid them, they have an agenda to push, there is no STANDARDS here, just evil.

Add in HOW MANY TRAITOROUS influencers paid by Putin is it up to now?
What is going to happen to those thousands of creepy unlikeable nasty traitors??


Evolve Dammit

(18,285 posts)
24. I wish I could answer that. Truly. According to Project 2025, they have 35,000 lawyers and 20,000 Fed employees on board
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 07:07 PM
Sep 10

Blue Owl

(54,260 posts)
26. The more who boycott the M$M the better
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 07:11 PM
Sep 10

If viewership (aka advertising dollars) dries up — they’ll die

0rganism

(24,493 posts)
27. Amazing that it's all one person
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 07:16 PM
Sep 10

× coup plottee/enabler
* convicted fraudster
* rapist/sexual predator
* cult leader
* celebrity asshole
* wannabe dictator
* malignantly narcissistic psychopath
* vicious racist
* notorious misogynist
* former president
* candidate for future president

Truly the full package of gross, nasty, and dangerous, that nearly half the nation will support in the upcoming election.

malaise

(276,960 posts)
31. No sometimes we have to spell it out
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 07:32 PM
Sep 10

That one third of voters need to hear from the VP suggests that there is a serious mental health crisis😀. I’d vote for a dead dog over the CONvicted felon. This farce is beyobd sick.

Evolve Dammit

(18,285 posts)
33. After all the word salads over the past couple years you'd think they would be calling it out like they did Biden's
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 07:41 PM
Sep 10

debate performance. Drumpf does it ALL the time. Yeah it's OK if he has the nuclear codes.

OAITW r.2.0

(27,870 posts)
32. It's like that doesn't matter. What only matters is what happens tonight.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 07:39 PM
Sep 10

It just doesn't make any fucking sense.

Evolve Dammit

(18,285 posts)
34. The difference is scrutiny and objective observation is staggering. One is hyper observed and the other gets free pass.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 07:44 PM
Sep 10

malaise

(276,960 posts)
36. None whatsoever
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 07:46 PM
Sep 10

Absolute effing farce.
A. Criminal lunatic versus a competent woman - a complete waste of time.
M$Greedia is irrelevant

ecstatic

(34,171 posts)
39. He should be in prison, not on a debate stage.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 08:19 PM
Sep 10

It's extremely upsetting. I think the damage to our image and reputation in the world might be irreparable.

What other country allows an insurrectionist to run again?

bushalert

(225 posts)
41. I will not watch the debate on principle.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 08:36 PM
Sep 10

By allowing that lunatic to lie and scream and insult without any repercussions makes him unbeatable in a debate. Even if he sounds and looks deranged, he still wins. It’s totally unfair to Harris and I will not help lend this ridiculous “debate” any credibility. Kamala should NOT debate that asshole.

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