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Well, I've never seen a presidential candidate go so insane on national television. (Original Post) lees1975 Sep 2024 OP
Umm, he did in the first debate in 2020 USAFRetired_Liberal Sep 2024 #1
But was he THIS far gone? I didn't/couldn't watch either so I can't say. ailsagirl Sep 2024 #24
Yes he was USAFRetired_Liberal Sep 2024 #25
It won't bother his supporters iemanja Sep 2024 #29
I'm sure they'll still give him a pass, but the rest of us are starting to head for the exits. calimary Sep 2024 #53
The BATSHIT was on full display liberal N proud Sep 2024 #2
Yup. Harris baited him and he took the bait every time. wnylib Sep 2024 #16
I caught all the baiting birdographer Sep 2024 #30
She did an excellent job of skewering him while wnylib Sep 2024 #31
She told him what other world leaders think of him (i.e., not much). ShazzieB Sep 2024 #49
Yes, but ... Straw Man Sep 2024 #50
Oh, I'll bet you're right! ShazzieB Sep 2024 #57
And also bdamomma Sep 2024 #69
Bwah... TSF's plan for the future... Project 2025.. did he Cha Sep 2024 #62
Baiting, bdamomma Sep 2024 #68
Yes indeed. Certifiably batshit crazy. Batshit_Bruin_CA Sep 2024 #26
Not until tonight! claudette Sep 2024 #3
Ketchup is flying as we speak, in between rage tweets onetexan Sep 2024 #58
Frankly, he was worse in the debate against Biden when he had covid, rsdsharp Sep 2024 #4
Old Trump Would At Least Spout a Lie That Pertained To the Question... TomCADem Sep 2024 #14
I'm sure that the media will draw that comparison as well Orrex Sep 2024 #19
Say it louder for the ones in the back: raccoon Sep 2024 #64
there's no question that he's lost touch with reality, there's only a question of whether it will matter fishwax Sep 2024 #5
Yes, it will depend on how many sane people are left. lees1975 Sep 2024 #6
company of zeros poozwah Sep 2024 #65
Among others, Erick Erickson is NOT HAPPY Emrys Sep 2024 #7
Wait, what? Is that what happened to my missing Dachsund? surfered Sep 2024 #9
Trying to get the childless cat ladies upset about immigration? GopherGal Sep 2024 #10
That claim was priceless during the debate. NH Ethylene Sep 2024 #45
So EE is saying Trump is a gullible old fool? Old Crank Sep 2024 #51
LOL! LeftInTX Sep 2024 #63
We've never had an insane candidate before surfered Sep 2024 #8
Ronald Reagan has entered the chat edisdead Sep 2024 #40
George W. Bush entered the chat. mucholderthandirt Sep 2024 #59
He's completely and utterly batshit. NoveltySocks Sep 2024 #11
Well he is facing... johnnyfins Sep 2024 #12
I only saw like 30 minutes. Initech Sep 2024 #13
Same here. I had to drop out. I can't stand listening to that asshole. Aristus Sep 2024 #23
Solid opinion. I too had to quit. He's a psycho. Comfortably_Numb Sep 2024 #34
Confession. I waded back in out of spite, and heard him talk about the eating dogs story!!! Omg!!! He said it. Comfortably_Numb Sep 2024 #36
When he was fact-checked by the moderator Mr.Bill Sep 2024 #38
That too!!!! At least a feeble effort at fact checking tonight. Better than the CNN joke of a debate. Comfortably_Numb Sep 2024 #43
"But I Saw It On TV!" GB_RN Sep 2024 #54
Throw in a lumpy pillow made of rubber trash and I'll take two!! Comfortably_Numb Sep 2024 #55
I'm watching griloco Sep 2024 #37
ooh I've been watching that too Skittles Sep 2024 #60
I'm really glad my TV was screwed into the wall last night. Initech Sep 2024 #70
m too barbtries Sep 2024 #41
Yup 30 and out. I left confident Harris was in control. Voltaire2 Sep 2024 #56
Well, I think I'll vote for Trump now.... I don't want anyone stealing and eating my cat. He said he stopped that. ashredux Sep 2024 #15
Yes, that's at the top of our national priorities! lees1975 Sep 2024 #18
Tee hee. llmart Sep 2024 #20
That one crazy comment threw doubt onto all his other BS, NH Ethylene Sep 2024 #46
Haitians eat you cats and dogs! Aussie105 Sep 2024 #17
So does Trump endorser RFKJr! dchill Sep 2024 #21
yes. some will. barbtries Sep 2024 #42
Someone said that he'd meltdown in about 15 minutes... Picaro Sep 2024 #22
It was the statement she made about his rally attendance and people leaving exhausted. lees1975 Sep 2024 #33
That toggled him didn't it? yonder Sep 2024 #39
I think it was more like 5 minutes... Blue_Roses Sep 2024 #52
His mental illness is apparent and disturbing. C_U_L8R Sep 2024 #27
the man listens to NO ONE Skittles Sep 2024 #61
True, true C_U_L8R Sep 2024 #66
What was great was she called it out unblock Sep 2024 #28
Yup proud patriot Sep 2024 #32
Hers was a near perfect performance. NH Ethylene Sep 2024 #47
GO "insane"? Jack Valentino Sep 2024 #35
A fat fuck was hoisted up on his own petard for all to see Blue Owl Sep 2024 #44
Concepts of a plan TheGreatConspiracy Sep 2024 #48
He is not well mentally bdamomma Sep 2024 #67

iemanja

(55,011 posts)
29. It won't bother his supporters
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 10:41 PM
Sep 2024

It wasn’t any crazier than his rallies. He didn’t win over undecided voters though.

calimary

(84,752 posts)
53. I'm sure they'll still give him a pass, but the rest of us are starting to head for the exits.
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 12:30 AM
Sep 2024

wnylib

(24,926 posts)
16. Yup. Harris baited him and he took the bait every time.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 10:13 PM
Sep 2024

He even went batshit crazy when she was not baiting him.

I watched on PBS. Afterward, during the analysis, even the Republican strategist said bluntly that Trump did poorly because he took the bait and rambled about his grievances instead of putting forth solid plans for the future. A PBS commentator said it is late in the campaign so there probably won't be another debate between them. The rest said it's unlikely that the Trump campaign would agree to one after tonight and chuckled.

I have BBC radio on right now and they said that, although both sides will claim a win, the Trump campaign will not convince many people that Trump won. They described Trump as rambling off into some of his rally style comments and grievances while Harris presented good policy points and successfully went on the offense against Trump.






birdographer

(2,528 posts)
30. I caught all the baiting
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 10:43 PM
Sep 2024

Some was so subtle--did you notice his quick cringe when she mentioned bringing in a "new generation"?

She called him weak and he immediately called her weak at least 5 times in the next 10 minutes.

I wish she had done one thing, and I understand why she didn't, she was going for subtlety, but when he said America was a "laughingstock" to the rest of the world, I so wish she had asked if he wasn't mistaking America for himself, or words to that effect. He is, after all, the laughingstock.

wnylib

(24,926 posts)
31. She did an excellent job of skewering him while
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 10:48 PM
Sep 2024

putting forth her policies and plans with enthusiasm and professionalism.

ShazzieB

(19,009 posts)
49. She told him what other world leaders think of him (i.e., not much).
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 12:08 AM
Sep 2024

I think that really got to him. He immediately started bragging about how much Erdogan likes him! (So he thinks. )

He's so stupid that he can't see how guys like Erdogan and Putin and Kim have figured out how to manipulate him with flattery. What a yutz!

Straw Man

(6,796 posts)
50. Yes, but ...
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 12:26 AM
Sep 2024
He immediately started bragging about how much Erdogan likes him!

... it was Viktor Orban's love that he was bragging on -- unless I missed something.

ShazzieB

(19,009 posts)
57. Oh, I'll bet you're right!
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 02:20 AM
Sep 2024

Last edited Wed Sep 11, 2024, 01:24 PM - Edit history (2)

The more I think about it, the more I'm sure you are.

I can see how I mixed them up. Trump has so many despotic, "strong man" boyfriends, it's hard to keep them all straight!

Cha

(305,954 posts)
62. Bwah... TSF's plan for the future... Project 2025.. did he
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 04:28 AM
Sep 2024

forget about that when he was being Tormented with Truth Bombs by VP Harris?

TY

PS... Lindsey Graham did say it was a Disaster and TSF should fire his debate prep team. Also Brit Hume said he lost.

rsdsharp

(10,335 posts)
4. Frankly, he was worse in the debate against Biden when he had covid,
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 09:40 PM
Sep 2024

and they juiced him on speed to get him through it.

TomCADem

(17,777 posts)
14. Old Trump Would At Least Spout a Lie That Pertained To the Question...
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 10:03 PM
Sep 2024

...new Trump is just full of incoherent rage. It seemed like he could barely focus on the question posed, because he just wanted to insult Biden. He should just count himself lucky that he did not just start cussing.

Orrex

(64,399 posts)
19. I'm sure that the media will draw that comparison as well
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 10:17 PM
Sep 2024

Just kidding. They'll talk about how he's a master of connecting with his voters and staying true to his no-holds-barred rhetorical style.

And then they'll wonder aloud if Harris seems too focused on winning the presidency, and does this suggest some underlying weakness?


Because the media is a bunch of useless fools totally beholden to Reichwing Republican propaganda.

raccoon

(31,519 posts)
64. Say it louder for the ones in the back:
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 04:37 AM
Sep 2024
Because the media is a bunch of useless fools totally beholden to Reichwing Republican propaganda.

fishwax

(29,328 posts)
5. there's no question that he's lost touch with reality, there's only a question of whether it will matter
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 09:41 PM
Sep 2024

poozwah

(278 posts)
65. company of zeros
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 08:31 AM
Sep 2024

unfortunately, trump is not the only one who has lost touch with reality. MAGA is a drug for people who cannot handle reality.

Emrys

(8,080 posts)
7. Among others, Erick Erickson is NOT HAPPY
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 09:44 PM
Sep 2024
Erick Erickson
@EWErickson

YOU STUPID MF’ers JUST GOT TRUMP TO REPEAT YOUR LIE ABOUT THE PETS. CONGRATS ON SETTING THE NEWS STORIES TOMORROW BY LYING SO TRUMP PICKS IT UP AND SAYS STUPID SHIT.



NH Ethylene

(31,011 posts)
45. That claim was priceless during the debate.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 11:50 PM
Sep 2024

And when he was presented with the facts, he exclaimed, "I saw it on tv!"

Old Crank

(5,046 posts)
51. So EE is saying Trump is a gullible old fool?
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 12:27 AM
Sep 2024

He knew Trump would blast out garbage about a fake story like it was the truth to him.
Keep planting fake stupidity for him to repeat.

Initech

(102,691 posts)
13. I only saw like 30 minutes.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 10:02 PM
Sep 2024

Crawling out from that steaming pile was like being hit with a ton of bricks.

Aristus

(68,724 posts)
23. Same here. I had to drop out. I can't stand listening to that asshole.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 10:27 PM
Sep 2024

I’m glad it was a grand slam for Kamala. But I’m better off hearing about it afterward than having to waste brain function on that contaminated mess of human protoplasm.

Comfortably_Numb

(4,123 posts)
36. Confession. I waded back in out of spite, and heard him talk about the eating dogs story!!! Omg!!! He said it.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 11:05 PM
Sep 2024

This dotard believes everything he reads on the internet.

Comfortably_Numb

(4,123 posts)
43. That too!!!! At least a feeble effort at fact checking tonight. Better than the CNN joke of a debate.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 11:25 PM
Sep 2024

You made me smile——“but I saw it on tv.”

GB_RN

(3,246 posts)
54. "But I Saw It On TV!"
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 12:30 AM
Sep 2024

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barbtries

(30,013 posts)
41. m too
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 11:18 PM
Sep 2024

for me it was the stream of lies that frustrate me and make me scream at my computer, and i just didn't watch after about 5 minutes at most. but i'm watching Mary Trump's after show and it was apparently a clear win for Kamala, with many favorite moments shared among laughter and glee.

ashredux

(2,698 posts)
15. Well, I think I'll vote for Trump now.... I don't want anyone stealing and eating my cat. He said he stopped that.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 10:08 PM
Sep 2024

He really, really was looking like a psychotic episode was going on

lees1975

(6,140 posts)
18. Yes, that's at the top of our national priorities!
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 10:17 PM
Sep 2024

I don't have a cat anymore, but I have my best friend golden retriever.

llmart

(16,331 posts)
20. Tee hee.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 10:17 PM
Sep 2024

First it was sharks and batteries. Then marauding hoards of "illegals". And of course, Hannibal Lecter. Now it's migrants eating our household pets!

Egads! What else do we have to worry about?

NH Ethylene

(31,011 posts)
46. That one crazy comment threw doubt onto all his other BS,
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 11:52 PM
Sep 2024

For anyone who was watching with objectivity.

Aussie105

(6,534 posts)
17. Haitians eat you cats and dogs!
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 10:15 PM
Sep 2024

And more dribble . . . I could stop the Ukraine and Middle East wars just like that!
Believe me!

And all the time, Kamala kept her cool, and smiled.

Still, everyone knew what Trump is, and now know Kamala can stand the heat - but will any November voters swap sides based on this debate?

barbtries

(30,013 posts)
42. yes. some will.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 11:20 PM
Sep 2024

think about it. his worshippers maybe not. but people who have convinced themselves that he's a good candidate or will be better on the economy or some other reason (can't bear the thought of voting for a democrat), yes.

will anyone who was previously voting for Kamala change their vote after this debate? nah.

lees1975

(6,140 posts)
33. It was the statement she made about his rally attendance and people leaving exhausted.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 10:54 PM
Sep 2024

That's when his entire facial expression changed, and you could tell he was cooked at that point.

yonder

(10,010 posts)
39. That toggled him didn't it?
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 11:14 PM
Sep 2024

I was hoping to see more "size" questions like that and for that reason, but she skillfully baited him in other, sometimes subtle ways.

Blue_Roses

(13,457 posts)
52. I think it was more like 5 minutes...
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 12:28 AM
Sep 2024

hard to tell cause once his craziness started it wouldn't stop

C_U_L8R

(45,803 posts)
27. His mental illness is apparent and disturbing.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 10:40 PM
Sep 2024

Clearly, no one in his camp cares enough to seek the care he needs. Not even his own family.

unblock

(54,271 posts)
28. What was great was she called it out
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 10:40 PM
Sep 2024

The facial expressions, the laughter, the hand on the chin, it was all beautiful.

She was having the same reaction America was having.

She let everyone know that it's normal and appropriate to be appalled at his insanity.

Jack Valentino

(1,516 posts)
35. GO "insane"?
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 10:56 PM
Sep 2024

He's been there already for a long time---

but hopefully, many more of the American people have finally seen it live, tonight.

bdamomma

(66,798 posts)
67. He is not well mentally
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 09:08 AM
Sep 2024

Mary Trump on her podcast (Mary Trump Media on You Tube) was thinking of gathering a panel of mental health professionals to discuss the felon.

Hope this gets some feedback.

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