WTF. " I honestly believe vance is sympathetic to this", in regard to gun control. He is making vance look like a

[JohnSJ]

compassionate person.

"I think this is a healthy conversation".

This debate is over.

It won't change anyone's mind.

The moderators are holding vance more accountable than Walz is.

[arlyellowdog]

1. No he's telling single vote 2nd Amendment voters

Vance isn’t their guy

[leftstreet]

3. +1

Sounds like it's strategic. They know Trump isn't reliable, but they hoped Vance would be. Nope

[Polybius]

2. And Vance jumped right in on it, talking about his 17 year old, expressing sympathy

He's just as bad, 1,000 times smarter than Trump.

[orange jar]

5. Yep.

He is a much better articulator than Trump, which makes him extremely dangerous.

[doublethink]

4. Walz isn't being enough of an attack dog.

Love the guy but we are talking fascist vs us. A few missed opportunities tonight. That's all I got for now. Normalizing this shit is shit.

[Tweedy]

9. It makes Trump/Vance look

like the weird, liars they are.

Being polite is not a weakness.
Vance just agreed with Walz re: housing not being a commodity.

Governor Walz is flattening Senator Vance’s nonsense with decency. I am enjoying this.

[doublethink]

13. If we had a public that would understand this ...

yeah okay. But we don't. A few more one liner 'truths' would help in my opinion. We shalll see. Peace.

[Tweedy]

17. The one liner truth about increased

manufacturing jobs under Biden/Harris did it for me. I hope I am right. Governor Walz repeated it too.

May a peaceful, easy going evening be yours

[doublethink]

18. Thank you go Blue !!

[Tweedy]

6. I disagree.

Tim Walz has gotten JD Vance to the point where Vance is treating Walz like a human being and not a demon.

Governor Walz is achieving that significant change while pointing out the serious shortcomings of Trump/Vance repeatedly with facts.

[emulatorloo]

7. ++++++++++++++++

[Blue_Roses]

8. Vance doesn't really know whose

side he's on

[JohnSJ]

11. Sure, but he is trying to make the trump team seem like "nice guys". They aren't

[Blue_Roses]

15. Very true!!!

n/t

[jcgoldie]

10. i sort of agree too much minnesota nice

Hes definitely holding his own and full of facts but people dont need to love the vp nominee throw some bombs.

[doublethink]

16. Agree these guys are not 'civil' Trump. Vance,

everyday. Why treat either of them in a civil setting. They are evil, they are liars, call them out with quick one liners like Kamala did in her debate with Trump. Let them come back from that and trigger them.

[iemanja]

12. Yeah, it's not helpful.

[Betty Boom]

14. He's being too Minnesota nice

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I’m concerned at how this being received. Goddamnit

Edit: OK I feel better after listening to the MSNBC crew. I guess I’m just so anxious and I second-guess my own perceptions.