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Quiet Em

(662 posts)
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 03:46 PM 17 hrs ago

Trump can't win unless a massive amount of men come out and vote for him

He would need more than he's ever had.

I don't see that happening. It's certainly not happening in early voting. Trump has not gained any new support. His base is static. His ceiling hasn't changed.

Hope this cheers you up, and enjoy your weekend.

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Trump can't win unless a massive amount of men come out and vote for him (Original Post) Quiet Em 17 hrs ago OP
And we wish more of them were DU men! Nt spooky3 17 hrs ago #1
Even then he can't. More women, black, brown and young people. onecaliberal 17 hrs ago #2
Everytime I see a thread suggesting that men are shit, I think "You're driving votes to Trump." PeaceWave 17 hrs ago #3
Did I suggest such a thing? Quiet Em 17 hrs ago #5
Did you bother reading my post? I literally said "OP didn't do that. But, other threads on this board have done so." PeaceWave 17 hrs ago #11
If the OP didn't do that kcr 16 hrs ago #16
Don'tcha just love these Disaffected 16 hrs ago #17
The OP is just focusing on a known voting trend. More women are voting for Harris and more men for Trump. nt Quixote1818 17 hrs ago #10
My husband Rebl2 15 hrs ago #21
More women are voting for Harris than men are voting for frumpy PortTack 15 hrs ago #22
I hope you are right but that wasn't true in 2020. Nt spooky3 15 hrs ago #25
What are you talking about? W_HAMILTON 12 hrs ago #35
No need to get testy about it. Sorry, I was thinking of the spooky3 12 hrs ago #36
I'm absolutely STUNNED by this post! BluesRunTheGame 13 hrs ago #34
How about Traildogbob 17 hrs ago #4
His base is probably smaller tinrobot 17 hrs ago #6
Exactly, Quiet Em 17 hrs ago #7
The overall electorate has increased with population change. spooky3 15 hrs ago #26
He has a huge lead with men, so be careful what you wish for. TwilightZone 17 hrs ago #8
Women are more motivated Quiet Em 17 hrs ago #9
no he doesn't need a massive turnout. NoRethugFriends 17 hrs ago #13
Yes...he would! The % of women that vote versus men is huge. Women break for dems in large numbers PortTack 15 hrs ago #24
Women are also a slightly larger % of the population than men, which is helpful. nt Quixote1818 17 hrs ago #12
Like to see a breakdown by gender by state that are registered to vote LiberalFighter 17 hrs ago #14
Interesting article; thanks. Nt spooky3 12 hrs ago #37
I take comfort in how sparsely attended his rallies are. alarimer 16 hrs ago #15
Don't forget DownriverDem 15 hrs ago #23
Yeah. Ever since Election 2020, I've wondered if Trump's Aristus 11 hrs ago #39
Is that the event where he wound up not showing up at all? calimary 15 hrs ago #27
DonOld should have macho man Nick Fuentes encourage more manly men to vote for DonOld. keithbvadu2 15 hrs ago #18
Agree. I don't see a massive amount of men onetexan 15 hrs ago #19
tfg's lost DownriverDem 15 hrs ago #20
I'm a male LilElf70 14 hrs ago #28
No decent man would vote for him. EVERY man had a mother, many have wives and girlfriends... FailureToCommunicate 14 hrs ago #29
He's certainly not exciting anyone. Hell, Elmo's having to literally buy votes for him. paleotn 14 hrs ago #30
All I'm seeing is the refrain that black men won't vote for Kamala... slightlv 14 hrs ago #31
As a Black Man that Is Around Black Men Aepps22 13 hrs ago #33
Thank you for your information and opinion, Aepps. It means a lot! slightlv 10 hrs ago #47
not even the 19 year old bro vote? pstokely 14 hrs ago #32
Is this a no True Scotsman thing? Mapitalk 12 hrs ago #38
No, it's a math thing. Quiet Em 11 hrs ago #41
I guess Mapitalk 11 hrs ago #42
His rallies look like funerals good luck with that Tribetime 11 hrs ago #40
Post removed Post removed 11 hrs ago #43
Enjoy another four years of making up bullshit conspiracy theories when your orange god gets his ass kicked again. W_HAMILTON 11 hrs ago #44
Message auto-removed Name removed 11 hrs ago #45
I was just about to Reply when it said I Couldn't ... lol Cha 10 hrs ago #46

PeaceWave

(774 posts)
3. Everytime I see a thread suggesting that men are shit, I think "You're driving votes to Trump."
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 03:50 PM
17 hrs ago

OP didn't do that. But, other threads on this board have done so.

PeaceWave

(774 posts)
11. Did you bother reading my post? I literally said "OP didn't do that. But, other threads on this board have done so."
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 03:59 PM
17 hrs ago

kcr

(15,509 posts)
16. If the OP didn't do that
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 04:43 PM
16 hrs ago

then why even bring that up? What does your post have to do with the OP? If DU is just this bastion of men-bashing, then what are you doing here?

Quixote1818

(30,090 posts)
10. The OP is just focusing on a known voting trend. More women are voting for Harris and more men for Trump. nt
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 03:59 PM
17 hrs ago

Rebl2

(14,452 posts)
21. My husband
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 05:57 PM
15 hrs ago

voted for Kamala! He has hated trump since the1980’s. I am so thankful for meeting this progressive man back in the eighties ☺️.

W_HAMILTON

(8,302 posts)
35. What are you talking about?
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 08:28 PM
12 hrs ago

In 2020...

Trump won men 50% - 48%.

Biden won women 55% - 44%.

Source: https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2021/06/30/behind-bidens-2020-victory/

So, yes, the OP's point was still correct for 2020: more women voted for Biden than men voted for Trump.

spooky3

(35,864 posts)
36. No need to get testy about it. Sorry, I was thinking of the
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 08:45 PM
12 hrs ago

Numbers for the white subsample only. You are right for the full sample. People of color offset the advantage that Republicans had among white voters.

BluesRunTheGame

(1,779 posts)
34. I'm absolutely STUNNED by this post!
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 08:08 PM
13 hrs ago

I agree with it 100%…but…

A couple months ago I saw a post by you about facial hair on men. You said it looked and smelled like armpit hair.

As a man who has worn a beard his whole adult life…I’ve voted for Democrats at least 22 times in National Elections while wearing a beard…I was, of course, personally offended by your post.

My star membership to DU had expired two days prior to reading your post. It was the DU fall fund drive. Middle of the DNC convention.

I decided, based on your post, and the lack of reaction to it that I would not be contributing to the support of this website anymore.

I’ve seen other posts by you that might indicate a fairly strong misandrist bent.

If you’ve changed, thank you. If I’ve misunderstood you, I apologize.





tinrobot

(11,433 posts)
6. His base is probably smaller
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 03:52 PM
17 hrs ago

He hasn't gained any significant new voters since 2020. Attrition reduced the overall numbers.

Plus, the last time voters came out for him was before the insurrection. I guarantee that alone lost him a lot of moderate conservatives and independents who voted for him in 2020.

Quiet Em

(662 posts)
7. Exactly,
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 03:54 PM
17 hrs ago

He has lost a lot of support. Joe Rogan and Elon are his hail mary passes. He just doesn't have enough to overcome the deficit.

spooky3

(35,864 posts)
26. The overall electorate has increased with population change.
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 06:08 PM
15 hrs ago

So he will likely get more votes in 24 than previously. But so will we.

There is a HUGE number of eligible voters who did not vote in 2020. I hope we are reaching more of them. I sent postcards to swing states and the organization said millions of postcards were mailed. Lots of folks are canvassing and calling. GOTV!

TwilightZone

(27,669 posts)
8. He has a huge lead with men, so be careful what you wish for.
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 03:54 PM
17 hrs ago
https://www.vox.com/politics/380132/gender-gap-election-harris-trump

That being said, Harris has a similar lead with women, and I think there's little doubt that women are quite motivated this cycle.

Quiet Em

(662 posts)
9. Women are more motivated
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 03:56 PM
17 hrs ago

and more women vote than men.

He would need a massive turnout. More than he's ever had. That's just not going to happen.

PortTack

(34,338 posts)
24. Yes...he would! The % of women that vote versus men is huge. Women break for dems in large numbers
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 06:02 PM
15 hrs ago

His men are white, the numbers of black and brown men that vote for him is much smaller.

alarimer

(16,472 posts)
15. I take comfort in how sparsely attended his rallies are.
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 04:37 PM
16 hrs ago

It could be that his support is baked in and the rallies don't matter, but I think he is losing people. They might still vote for him, or (hopefully for us) they abstain.

It can't be good that he stands them up all the time (3 + hours late yesterday).

Aristus

(68,038 posts)
39. Yeah. Ever since Election 2020, I've wondered if Trump's
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 09:11 PM
11 hrs ago

incompetence and anti-vaxx douchebaggery killed the voters who would otherwise have represented his margin of victory.

There’s something rather fitting about that.

keithbvadu2

(39,718 posts)
18. DonOld should have macho man Nick Fuentes encourage more manly men to vote for DonOld.
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 05:12 PM
15 hrs ago

DonOld should have macho man Nick Fuentes encourage more manly men to vote for DonOld.

A Thanksgiving guest at Trump's personal table.

Nick Fuentes: "having sex with women is gay"


https://www.reddit.com/r/confidentlyincorrect/comments/umw2br/nick_fuentes_having_sex_with_women_is_gay/

DownriverDem

(6,575 posts)
20. tfg's lost
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 05:57 PM
15 hrs ago

some men voters. The Girl Dads and many veterans are not voting for him. A lot of young men don't even vote. Fingers crossed.

LilElf70

(353 posts)
28. I'm a male
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 06:40 PM
14 hrs ago

and I'm voting Harris all the way. There is no one else that has her qualifications.
I may be dumb, but I'm definitely not toopid. hehehe

FailureToCommunicate

(14,299 posts)
29. No decent man would vote for him. EVERY man had a mother, many have wives and girlfriends...
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 06:46 PM
14 hrs ago

How could ANY man vote for a monster who would would take away the very rights those women in his life need??

Only men who hate women will be motivated to vote for that evil orange despot.

paleotn

(18,971 posts)
30. He's certainly not exciting anyone. Hell, Elmo's having to literally buy votes for him.
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 06:47 PM
14 hrs ago

and is still not under DoJ investigation because of it, for reasons I suppose only Merrick can comprehend.

slightlv

(4,138 posts)
31. All I'm seeing is the refrain that black men won't vote for Kamala...
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 06:50 PM
14 hrs ago

and I don't know enough to sort that in one box or the other. I want to throw the statement away with all those that say abortion is a non-thing this election. IOW, one more statement to just demoralize us, and nothing more. But not being male, nor black, I honestly don't know and can't put myself in that situation.

I do know there is so much disinformation out there this time around that everything seems scary, even when it shouldn't be. We're seeing such overwhelming support in early voting, news stories about polls being owned and subsidized by Trump, himself, etc... And honestly, when it come right down to it, I just can't see the American people overthrowing democracy for communism. The magas are a lot more numerous than I'd originally thought, but even then they're only about a third of the republican party. This country is divided as much as we've ever been, but being divided ideologically doesn't mean everyone is willing to throw out the baby with the bath water. I just can't see Americans being that dumb.

I can see Trump causing so much disruption and chaos that SCOTUS and law enforcement feel compelled to insert itself. And that, more than anything, is what worries me. WE may not accept SCOTUS' viewpoint, but that doesn't mean the rest of government will represent us by dissing the court. The guardrails are failing with every crime spree T gets away with.

Aepps22

(303 posts)
33. As a Black Man that Is Around Black Men
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 07:12 PM
13 hrs ago

Most of the brothas I talk to are all in on beating Trump. The media is hyping up a few malcontents and grifters/scammers to lay the groundwork to blame Black men if Kamala loses just like Black folks were blamed for Hillary losing. It makes me angry that the media does this every election cycle around the Black vote. We will do our part but there will always be some leakage in the votes of every demographic.

Quiet Em

(662 posts)
41. No, it's a math thing.
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 09:22 PM
11 hrs ago

Trump has lost support from women. Trump has lost support from men.

Trump needed to make up that deficit. He did not.

Dobbs made it even worse for him. He doesn't have the math.

Response to Quiet Em (Original post)

W_HAMILTON

(8,302 posts)
44. Enjoy another four years of making up bullshit conspiracy theories when your orange god gets his ass kicked again.
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 10:08 PM
11 hrs ago

Response to W_HAMILTON (Reply #44)

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