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H2O Man

(73,232 posts)
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 06:30 PM Dec 2012

On Susan Rice

A few thoughts on the news about Susan Rice:

{1} I agree with a post by Will Pitt, that it is likely that President Obama spoke to her about stepping aside before she did so.

{2} I believe that Rice was “qualified” for the job of Secretary of State. The idea that members of the republican party would say otherwise is obscene, considering their last choice under Cheney-Bush.

{3} I think that Rice’s investments in “energy” alone should have been enough for her to remove herself from consideration for this position.

{4} I personally would not and could not support her for this position, because her positions are too often identical with those of the neoconservative movement.

{5} I suspect that the republican party made a significant error in opposing her, because she played -- at very most -- a minor role in the issue they ranted about. Thus, it appears to many people that their opposition was based upon her being a black female.

{6} I think that John Kerry would be a decent option; more, I think that there are several democratic MA candidates who could win his seat in the Senate. Likewise, I think there are other good options for Secretary of State within the Democratic Party.

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sadbear

(4,340 posts)
1. Yes, it appears they cut off their nose to spite their face...
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 06:39 PM
Dec 2012

or at least score a political victory over the President. Now they're likely to get a more liberal SOS.

Cha

(295,543 posts)
7. Hehe.. I was thinking from some of Susan's views and statements that
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 07:00 PM
Dec 2012

the repubs would love her.. but, in their rush to bring down Pres Obama's Election they screwed themselves, as usual.

sheshe2

(83,138 posts)
11. Lest we forget...they did the same to our Senator elect Elizabeth Warren...
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 07:28 PM
Dec 2012

We know how that worked out for them!

pampango

(24,692 posts)
13. It's only a "cave-in" if you disagree with it.
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 09:08 PM
Dec 2012


Otherwise it's republicans outsmarting themselves and doing liberals a favor by destroying a "neocon" nominee for SOS.

When you agree with republicans around here, someone has to be playing multidimensional chess.

NOVA_Dem

(620 posts)
15. People are trying to polish this turd.
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 10:32 PM
Dec 2012

This is a cave in and a sign that the next 4 yrs of giving in will be just like the last.

H2O Man

(73,232 posts)
16. I'd agree that
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 10:37 PM
Dec 2012

there is now an unpolished turd here. But it's not those who have been opposed to Rice for Secretary of State.

Mnemosyne

(21,363 posts)
3. I would love to see Bill Richardson as SOS. He has experience and is sharp. Otherwise, I agree with
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 06:50 PM
Dec 2012

your other points.

H2O Man

(73,232 posts)
14. Richardson is certainly
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 10:26 PM
Dec 2012

a very good choice. As noted in the last paragraph of the OP, I think there are numerous good options, all within the Democratic Party.

Mnemosyne

(21,363 posts)
17. There are certainly great choices among the Dems, why aren't they being mentioned? I will
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:41 AM
Dec 2012

never understand the holdovers from the BFEE. Well, maybe I do.

spanone

(135,586 posts)
4. given her past neocon leanings, you'd think they would have embraced her.
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 06:52 PM
Dec 2012

that's why it appears they opposed her for all the wrong reasons.

Cha

(295,543 posts)
9. That's what I was talking about upthread..
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 07:05 PM
Dec 2012

I think they targeted her to bring down PBO's election chances and got so wound up being the bully boys there are.. couldn't stop.

Mr.Bill

(24,031 posts)
8. She should establish residency in Mass.
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 07:00 PM
Dec 2012

and announce her intention to run for John Kerry's Senate seat. That should keep the McCain/Graham gang busy chasing their tails for awhile.

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