China school knife attack in Henan injures 22 children

[The Straight Story]

China school knife attack in Henan injures 22 children

14 December 2012 Last updated at 06:29 ET

A man with a knife has wounded 22 children - at least two of them seriously - and an adult at a primary school in central China.

The attack happened at the gate of a school in Chenpeng village in Henan province.

Police arrested a 36-year-old local man at the scene.

Security at China's schools has been increased in recent years following a spate of similar knife attacks in which nearly 20 children have been killed.

The BBC's John Sudworth in Shanghai says many of the attackers have been mentally disturbed men, prompting a debate about the effects of China's recent, rapid social change and the inability of an antiquated hospital system to cope with rising levels of mental illness.

The Associated Press news agency quotes a police officer as saying that this latest attack happened as pupils were arriving for classes.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-20723910

[onehandle]

1. Cue Gungeoneers to tell us how much more effective a gun would have been. nt

[Remmah2]

30. That's called projection. nt

nt

[Hoyt]

2. Terrible, glad the murderer didn't live in America where he'd be able to buy a shit load of guns

that would have enabled him to kill 100+ children in a lot less time, while the NRA and right wingers just grin and count their money.

[sadbear]

4. Not a murdererer yet.

Attempted murderer at this point, right? Of course, if he had had a gun....

[proud2BlibKansan]

35. +1

[WilliamPitt]

3. Deleted

[Go Vols]

5. 22 kids attacked at school

and this is what you come up with?

wtf

[onehandle]

8. Knife violence stories are gun nuts' goto propaganda to deflect from their fetish.

That would explain Pitt's response.

[nadinbrzezinski]

13. Yeah, but is a strange coincidence

The dateline for the story is today.

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. Will

14 December 2012 Last updated at 06:29 ET

Dateline for that story.

Just an FYI.

So you will see it twenty more times. Even Van Zant has brought it up on the TV.

The tools are different, but the profile might be similar.

[JDPriestly]

15. The damage done is very different too.

The Chinese story is not really to be believed. Even a child would run fast and hard from someone brandishing a knife and hurting others.

It's virtually impossible to run fast and hard enough to escape someone with a gun.

[Go Vols]

16. Guess this one couldn't run that fast

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/14/world/asia/china-knife-attack/index.html

[JDPriestly]

24. She is injured but not dead thus far.

Knives are used in China by the very deranged -- because they cannot get guns.

In this country, even the only slightly deranged can inflict horrible damage and death in a matter of seconds with little effort. All it takes is a moment of anger so intense that the shooter loses the ability to think rationally.

Using a knife is a messy matter. We would save many lives if we required people to get a license to carry a gun and pass a test on gun safety as well as a basic psychological profiling in order to have a license to carry that gun out of their home. Even hunters should be willing to get a license before they hunt. They are willing to get gaming licenses. Why not combine that with a license to carry the gun.

[nadinbrzezinski]

38. I don't disagree that we need licensing

But it looks like you are making light of this tragedy as well.

[nadinbrzezinski]

17. Sorry, but a knifing wound

Can be as harrowing as a bullet.

Sorry if I do not share your views...

[MightyMopar]

31. You might outrun or overpower someone with a knife, a gun not so much

[nadinbrzezinski]

37. Oh my also avoid getting shot

If you know how to take proper cover.

By the way, I have been in shootouts with automatic grade weapons. Translation, actual Ak-47 , actual military grade FAL and actual M-16A2

Hell the Fifty cal on the roof of the humve was all kinds of warm and fuzzy.

[Paladin]

6. Welcome To The Gun Obsessives' Favorite News Story Of Today. (nt)

[DanTex]

9. Good thing he didn't have a gun.

Since guns are much more lethal than knives, if this guy managed to get hold of the gun, the death toll would have been much higher.

There's a reason why the US has a homicide rate about 4X higher than the rest of the developed world, where the gun laws are much tighter. It's because guns kill people.

[muriel_volestrangler]

10. And China recognises it has a knife problem

China was hit by a spate of knife and cleaver attacks that targeted school children in 2010.

A number of measures were introduced at the time, including increased security at schools across the country and a regulation requiring people to register with their national ID cards when buying large knives.

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/12/14/world/asia/china-knife-attack/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

[gollygee]

11. That's from around the world

I'd have to see the same level of violence from knives that I'm seeing from guns to feel it's a fair comparison.

(edited becuase I thought the story was from this past summer but it's today)

[nadinbrzezinski]

14. Here is the dateline for this story

14 December 2012 Last updated at 06:29 ET

AA today. This is the second one. There was one in Japan about six months ago.

[Lex]

18. So that happens every other week in China?

Yeah, I didn't think so.

[nadinbrzezinski]

20. Actually it's the second or third this year

Van Zandt's observations were on point. The weapon is different, the profile is similar.

[Lex]

22. But not every other week & massive deaths.

[nadinbrzezinski]

23. That has to do with the tool

The point that Van Zandt made, which is the relevant part, is that the person doing the attack has a similar psych profile. If they had guns...

I will add, we should not make light. From what Van Zandt said, I might be off, there are social conditions in the underbelly that might be similar. Also, due to the one child policy in China this is also an attack on society in some different ways.

[LanternWaste]

19. Thank goodness there were no deaths though...

Thank goodness there were no deaths though, and no easily available mechanism or tool used by the perpetrators to better achieve that.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

21. There's no article you can post that will make guns good.

I didn't think this was your style.

[SomethingFishy]

25. I don't think that was his intention...

at all.... It seems to me he hit it right where the debate should be..

[LanternWaste]

34. And where precisely is that...?

"right where the debate should be."

And where precisely is that...?

[DisgustipatedinCA]

39. I think it was most definitely his intention.

Two weeks have passed since he posted this OP, and he keeps posting pro-gun drivel. So yeah, I do believe this was, and remains, his intention.

[Fresh_Start]

26. And none died.....thats the point. Guns are more deadly

pathetic false equivalency

[DireStrike]

27. 22 injured, 2 seriously, zero dead.

[alcibiades_mystery]

28. I'm willing to see extremely restrictive gun control laws now, and experiment with the knife atacks

That's OK with me at this point. I'm ready to see how we'll do with just knife attacks.

No guns. Near impossible access to handguns. We'll see how we do with just knives. Let's do it.

[Democracyinkind]

29. 1 maniac, lots of kids, zero guns, zero deaths yet.

Notice the difference?

[redqueen]

32. How many died? nt

[Whovian]

33. Not the time or place for this in light of what just happened in our own back yard.

[antigone382]

36. This story happened today.

Children being attacked in these numbers anywhere is worthy of our attention.

I realize that the coincidental timing of the attacks can make this news story seem like a refutation of the important points brought out by the other tragedy in Connecticut. But the reality is that both of these horrific attacks are fresh, and the suffering caused by them is real.

I don't know SS's general gun control outlook or what his intention in posting the story might be; but posting the news story of this tragedy is not necessarily a refutation of the tragedy within our own borders. These attacks on children are horrific and saddening.