General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHe is not my president.
He has not earned the respect of that title.
It doesn't really matter to me how many votes he received. It did not change him to a decent or honest person.
He is a disgrace to our nation. He lied to and deceived his followers and the people of this country.
He should not be in the White House.
He should be in jail.
I will never call him Mr President.
You can call him whatever you wish.
choie
(4,553 posts)NotHardly
(1,209 posts)ThePartyThatListens
(108 posts)He is
kentuck
(112,864 posts)He is not mine. Nothing he did was fair or square to get to where he is today.
Jack Valentino
(1,382 posts)bluestarone
(18,288 posts)NEVER!
larwdem
(836 posts)Magoo48
(5,410 posts)Everything he tries to do, I will resist if there is any way possible. I live in the Republic of California; this is where my allegiance will be until our nation is again governed by a competent leader. At 76, I may not experience another national leader..
niyad
(120,241 posts)niyad
(120,241 posts)MFM008
(20,007 posts)But a moral degenerate, a rapist and a convicted felon and I pray for the day he dies.
Being elected anything does not raise your moral standard it does not clean you of the filth of a lifetime
kelly1mm
(5,268 posts)fact that President Obama was his President as a citizen of the United States ......
kentuck
(112,864 posts)Or try to overthrow the government.
Or was told by the Colorado Supreme Court that he was disqualified by the 14th Amendment.
Or tried to steal the election thru election fraud.
Or act like a traitorous asshole.
kelly1mm
(5,268 posts)a US citizen and he does not pass away before then.....)
Same as President Obama was my grandfathers president the last 6 years of his life.
kentuck
(112,864 posts)Period. Full stop.
kelly1mm
(5,268 posts)kentuck
(112,864 posts)...does not make it so, either. By the rules of the election, he may be called the President. He does not have a shred of legitimacy, for me personally.
No. He is not my president.
arthritisR_US
(7,459 posts)since he came down that putrid gold staircase hes been that. There is no other name/title I will give him than what I always have.
kelly1mm
(5,268 posts)Jack Valentino
(1,382 posts)Unfortunately, he died.
Marthe48
(19,109 posts)I just listened to an audiobook where part of the story was set in WWII France and described some of the courageous Resistance fighters. What they did to preserve "Liberte egalite, fraternity." In spite of the fact that that nazis overran French defences, for many French citizens, hitler was not their leader.
Same with me with the rwnj that have been installed, the rwnj who are dismantling the Constitution of the U.S., the traitors gleefully selling my country to the highest bidder. Whatever rwnj want, they aren't getting. Anybody who voted for any rwnj is complicit in the overthrow of our country. Why legitimize their crimes? I won't.
hadEnuf
(2,744 posts)brainwashing, felonious criminal acts and outright thuggery.
No, he is not my president. He shouldn't be yours either.
arthritisR_US
(7,459 posts)radical noodle
(8,677 posts)He won't be your president, because he has no desire to be your president. He only wants to hurt you and people like you. That isn't a president, it's an oppressor.
arthritisR_US
(7,459 posts)kelly1mm
(5,268 posts)If the poster IS a US citizen, then the statement 'President Trump is not my President' would be incorrect.
I was not questioning their citizenship status, just trying to figure out any possible out they may have in making such a clearly erroneous statement.
arthritisR_US
(7,459 posts)kelly1mm
(5,268 posts)President of the United States. As such, he will be my President as I am a US citizen.
If by 'fully behind' you mean did I vote for him? Hell no!
MFM008
(20,007 posts)The criminal, the felon, the rapist and moral degenerate doesn't exist and Noone this divisive can survive long. Mark my words he will not live to 2028.
choie
(4,553 posts)On 34 counts. Nor of tax evasion against NY state.
arthritisR_US
(7,459 posts)choie
(4,553 posts)I think you may have misunderstood my post.
biophile
(375 posts)Just not sentenced to any punishment (yet) and probably never will. Still convicted though
The Grand Illuminist
(1,658 posts)nt
choie
(4,553 posts)not being convicted of 34 counts
biophile
(375 posts)Im chronically confused 😏😆
alarimer
(16,596 posts)Trump does. He wants to purge the federal government of all non-Republicans.
If a disaster strikes a blue state, he will not help it.
That is why as a citizen of Maryland, I can say he is not my president. Because, if some disaster happens to my state, we are on our own.
kelly1mm
(5,268 posts)When that happens, no matter how much I despise him and no matter how much I fear he will damage the country he will be my President because I am a US citizen. It is purely a definitional issue.
Blues Heron
(6,162 posts)He is more of a nazi dictator kind of guy. Definitely not presidential material at all.
kelly1mm
(5,268 posts)President Trump does not die between now and then).
Blues Heron
(6,162 posts)kelly1mm
(5,268 posts)hear, is going to attend the inauguration of (let me check my notes here .... yep) President Trump.
niyad
(120,241 posts)Robinette Biden, Jr. IS the President. And please do not even start on the "courtesy/protocol" . The F'n, murdering, orange, RAPIST, TRAITOR** deserves no such consideration. Your posted insistence on his legitimacy is a bit puzzling, while people are expressing their horror about the shitshow to come.
kelly1mm
(5,268 posts)already President. Just like I refer to President Obama as President Obama. President Bush as President Bush, and President Clinton as President Clinton. All former Presidents are normally referred to as their formal title, no?
niyad
(120,241 posts)your posted insistence here on deference and protocol for this F'n, murdering, orange, RAPIST, TRAITOR** is extremely puzzling, and now amusing. Do, please, keep trying.
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,936 posts)Respect him
Listen to him
Tolerate him
And most importantly I will never obey or trust him.
He is a criminal a psychopath a narcissist and a total loser.
Unworthy of the office, truly a life unworthy of life to use a quote of the orange monsters favorite monster, hitler.
Crunchy Frog
(26,996 posts)However much your grandfather may have believed otherwise.
Both sides are not equal in this comparison.
kelly1mm
(5,268 posts)agree wholeheartedly! But they are both still factually wrong.
niyad
(120,241 posts)kelly1mm
(5,268 posts)niyad
(120,241 posts)become most amusing.
Baitball Blogger
(48,155 posts)But, everything you say is true. And when you put it that way, I'm ashamed he's the president. And I'm ashamed of this country for voting for him.
usonian
(14,046 posts)Last edited Fri Nov 29, 2024, 12:48 AM - Edit history (1)
Would you have gone along?
The threat is pure nazi-ism, in every word and deed.
Straight out of the fascist playbook, and the next step (after the immigrants, see below) is the takeover of the armed forces, by picking on one, and then another and then more and more until noone is left to uphold the constitution.
Speaking of immigrants. Niemoller:
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out
Because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for meand there was no one left to speak for me.
FASCISM MUST BE STOPPED NOW, BEFORE THOUSANDS, PERHAPS MILLIONS ARE VICTIMS.
One glimmer of hope is that the four horsemen now banded together:
Trump, Musk, Putin and Bannon
Have such insane egos and perversion that they will fight each other for power, money, sex, murder.
Dont count on it.
They skillfully divide and conquer.
And the answer is _____________________
Blue Owl
(54,806 posts)Skittles
(159,586 posts)fucking NEVER
RedWhiteBlueIsRacist
(56 posts)they should be dug up and given a well needed spin.
AZ8theist
(6,519 posts)He's a convicted felon, a treasonous Russian stooge who HATES AMERICA and LOVES Putin.
He's barely HUMAN to me.......
peggysue2
(11,494 posts)AGENT ORANGE!
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,594 posts)xocetaceans
(3,955 posts)...non-corrupt interpretation of the US Constitution, which naturally does not include the interpretation given by Roberts's version of SCOTUS.
...
Section 3.
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
...
https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/14th-amendment
Rhiannon12866
(222,781 posts)Tells us all we need to know about what the former Republican party has become.
AZ8theist
(6,519 posts)The Hatch Act? The Logan Act??
Why, we can't charge anyone violating THOSE laws since it's never been done before!!! Those laws are OLD!!!!
There's no justice left in America. Just the way the Nazis want it.
NoMoreRepugs
(10,564 posts)GiqueCee
(1,366 posts)... the Gangrenous Boil on the Ass of Humanity, among other things. Brain-dead Shit-gibbon also has a nice ring to it.
BlueMTexpat
(15,500 posts)Felon Scumbag, among others!
I will NEVER call him President!
Let alone MINE!
Period..
cilla4progress
(25,951 posts)Upside down world.
What a humiliation for our country!
I'm ashamed of my country.
onecaliberal
(36,025 posts)Response to kentuck (Original post)
Name removed Message auto-removed
Lulu KC
(4,444 posts)ForgedCrank
(2,251 posts)crappy thing to say to someone regardless.
Six117
(237 posts)That thing has never been nor ever will be a real American president.
RainCaster
(11,573 posts)IMO, he was demonstrating his negotiating skills he will use with Putin. Again.
Some call him the antichrist, maybe they are right.
Its hard to believe that psychopath and his band of crazies and moles will be installed again to destroy the country. It is DEEPLY disturbing to see this happening.
ribrepin
(1,806 posts)I watched the Trump's Apprentice every week the first year. I watched less and less every season until I wasn't watching anything. It had become boring and stupid.
I am not watching national news right now because his image could be on there. I am actively avoiding any image of his fat ass. I'm glad he has assholes to stroke his & Elon's ego. I'm just not interested.
BeyondGeography
(40,024 posts)And Americans gave him a popular vote win anyway. At this point, nearly ten years after the guy started running for President for the first time, after all the lies, overt racism and misogyny, utter ineptitude and outright treason, that bothers me a lot more than anything else.
Beringia
(4,593 posts)GoodRaisin
(9,595 posts)Thats all I will accept about him.
jimfields33
(19,129 posts)Why do people forget that?
EnergizedLib
(2,200 posts)Joe Biden is my president.
The other one?
Never has been, never will be.
jimfields33
(19,129 posts)I think its disrespectful to president Biden to say it now. I definitely do not for a second believe you were disrespecting our incredible president. I promise you that!
Emile
(30,046 posts)who is late for jail.
raccoon
(31,468 posts)Martin Eden
(13,506 posts)Now I'm leaning towards Maga Mussolini.
returnee
(302 posts)is as illegitimate as he is. Not my president, not my Supreme Court.
kentuck
(112,864 posts)It is in his DNA to cheat. It is not possible for him to not cheat.
We just don't know how he did it at this point.
We will eventually learn.
So, we are supposed to accept his legitimacy and move on?
No, we cannot surrender that easily.
returnee
(302 posts)I think it was through malicious software loaded into individual machines, programmed to miscount some votes.
PJMcK
(22,941 posts)The classic expression says it clearly:
The United States has only one president at a time.
On January 20th, Trump will be sworn in as the 47th POTUS.
Like you, I hate that man viscerally. He is a sub-human creature without respect for anyone or anything. He is a disgusting man who represents the worst of humanity at every level.
I'm an American citizen. Unfortunately, Trump will be president because he won a free and fair election. So, setting aside your emotions, answer this for me: Who will be my president next year?
Thanks, in advance, kentuck. Your posts are always insightful.
kentuck
(112,864 posts)We may have a criminal. We may have an oligarch, We may have a puppet of Putin. We may have a dictator.
But we will not have a president of the people.
PJMcK
(22,941 posts)The majority of Americans, as you call them "the People" voted for Trump. Ergo, he is the president of the People.
I hate this perhaps more than you do. We're seriously considering moving out of the country. Our motivation is oddly not because Trump will be President. It's because we question the value of living in a country where half the people support man who:
Was impeached twice
Was convicted of dozens of Felonies
Was publicly unfaithful to all three of his wives
Was convicted of fraud
Was convicted of defamation
Went bankrupt at least six times
Was charged with illegal possession of top secret documents
Was charged with citing an insurrection against the United States
Was charged with election interference
As President, told over 30,000 lies in his first term
Is disgusting in every personal behavior
We wonder if we can live among people who support such a revolting person but worry about the price of eggs.
Sadly, as an American, I know the criminal Trump will be President. I'm sure you can see the personal conflicts in accepting this reality.
kentuck
(112,864 posts)He received a plurality of the votes that were cast for the presidency.
King George did not continue to rule America because he did not have the legitimacy of the people.
I do not accept how he was able to manipulate the Justice system and the Supreme Court and not face accountability as would everyone else.
No, he is still not my president.
Your semantics are yours to believe in.
A majority of voters elected Trump. Is that a clearer definition of winning the election? He didn't just win the Electoral College, you know.
We'll just have to disagree on your semantics.
Still, I always read your posts on DU. I know you'll keep 'em coming.
Blues Heron
(6,162 posts)PJMcK
(22,941 posts)Trump got more votes than VP Harris. He won, we lost.
The semantics may matter in the abstract but in the real world, we'll be dealing with another Trump presidency.
Blues Heron
(6,162 posts)Its not just abstract, its part of the information battle.
claudette
(4,552 posts)Hes an orange felon lowlife and all who voted for him have no sense of decency
lark
(24,203 posts)He IS NOT my president, he is a theif, criminal and traitor installed by fascists out of pure idiocy and really mostly hate.
Jilly_in_VA
(10,937 posts)Just the one the country is stuck with. Temporarily.
kentuck
(112,864 posts)And you must call him your president.
Or what happens?
You will be put under Chinese torture or worse?
Any leader, including the president, rules by the legitimacy of the people.
He does not have a shred of legitimacy.
Remember, it is not who votes, it is who counts the votes. Where have we heard that before?
Should we continue to have faith in our voting system?
LetMyPeopleVote
(154,817 posts)kentuck
(112,864 posts)It's gotta be something worse.
republianmushroom
(17,795 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(154,817 posts)Emile
(30,046 posts)boonecreek
(45 posts)Adjudicated rapist and lord knows what he's gotten away with over the years. Should have been cooling his heels at Riker's years ago.
CapnSteve
(258 posts)I anchor a weekly radio news program (The People's News - KPFT 90.1 FM Houston and on podcast) and I only refer to him as convicted felon Donald Trump. Not president-elect, not former president, just convicted felon. Sometimes I add "adjudicated rapist" or "twice impeached" to the title, but always lead with "convicted felon."
It is the truth. DO you think they will come for me? I find myself not caring.
Elessar Zappa
(15,988 posts)Glad youre getting that out on radio. There needs to be competition for the right wing dominated talk radio.
Karasu
(160 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(154,817 posts)Ndp5
(82 posts)Trump now wants acceptance from half the country who rejected him, but he has not earned it.
He proved he was unworthy of the office on Jan. 6 and proved it again on the campaign trail, including with that grotesque MSG rally. And Russia blatantly intervened on his behalf with targeted bomb threats that may not have swung the election but showed who their candidate was. Nothing Trump says now will change that.
I fear people are complacent because we survived the presidency of a different Trump in a different time. 2024 Trump is more dangerous and less constrained. He should be met with opposition.
La Coliniere
(939 posts)but he will not be my President. The word my is a possessor adjective that I would never in a million years use to describe my relationship to the 34 count, adjudicated rapist, twice impeached, con artist and lying criminal. That said, and as painful as it is, he will be the President on January 20th and it will be perhaps the darkest day in our democratic republic since the first shots were fired at Ft. Sumter. To hell with the disgusting and immoral voters who brought this upon us, and the media, willfully ignorant influencers, Republican sycophants, MAGA billionaires and corporate shills who enabled this horrific moment in time to occur. I, for one, dont blame Biden or Harris, and Im trying hard not to fall into despair and hope that we can form some kind of resistance, any which way we can. When the cruel policies start affecting the felons base, I just hope they realize the fatal mistake they made because of whatever reason they voted for this (inflation, racism and misogyny) and own up to the fact that they were lied to and how gullible and foolish they were.
kimbutgar
(23,365 posts)I still like to watch the ABC world news and I will mute or fast forward when I can.
Since I stopped watching MSNBC Im not as stressed. I also watch The morning shows on FSTV and Stephanie, Thom and Randy are great! And I listen to Sirius XM Progress channel with great people also! I deleted cnn and msnbc on my car radio. Daytime msnbc was rah rah orange Hitler 2.0 and evening was 50/50 !
Bluethroughu
(5,813 posts)LoisB
(8,762 posts)enigmania
(219 posts)scumbag he was 50 years ago (when I became aware of him) and he hasn't matured or aged well.
Ohioboy
(3,477 posts)It was nice to not have that during Biden, but now it's back again.
AverageOldGuy
(2,093 posts)you may like.
Theres a nice oval sticker that reads FDT (f@@@ Donald Trump)
Bumper stickers:
Hes not my President
F@@@ Trump
Several others.
Otterdaemmerung
(102 posts)I've already bought a sticker that says, "Don't Blame Me -- I Voted for Harris."
Dem4life1970
(459 posts)An abnormal, twice impeached, 34 times convicted felon, adjudicated rapist, suspected pedophile, and insurrectionist. I don't care if he won all 50 states. Might *never* makes right. It never has and it never will.
Evolve Dammit
(18,776 posts)alarimer
(16,596 posts)I know this take is criticized, but Trump actively wants to harm people who didn't vote for him. I think that's what we can say he is not our president. Because he has said he isn't.
No other president has ever done that. Not even Nixon as far as I know.
KentuckyWoman
(6,891 posts)to be unable to avoid meeting any of them in person, I am unafraid to call them out in front of cameras. They are a vengeful bunch. If I were young I might make a different choice. But old? They can't make life miserable for me very long.
mwooldri
(10,407 posts)I've never had an emotional attachment in the positive to any UK prime minister. Negative, yes. Definitely towards Thatcher. But positive... Not really. I don't think Canadians have a positive attachment to Justin Trudeau like "He's my PM". And in the Anglophone world I think that's the case. Prime Ministers are always "the" Prime minister. Never "My PM".
The monarchy.... Similar unless you're a (small R) republican. Elizabeth was never "my Queen", always "the Queen" to me. I liked her, but I never "owned" her. Charles... He's the king. A misunderstood guy, relatively nice guy actually. Preferred his mother over him but he's not bad. But again not "my king". To die hard republicans no monarch is ever "my monarch".... To them it doesn't exist.
So in a sense no-ones is ever "my president". Not even Joe. And I like Joe. The upcoming guy? Nasty man. Real nasty.
Karasu
(160 posts)In a sane country they wouldn't be.
No one but the seditionist party should be legitimizing this.
IzzaNuDay
(624 posts)im burning a trump flag on inauguration day to prove my point.
Clouds Passing
(2,349 posts)YoshidaYui
(42,765 posts)asshole was appropriate.
slightlv
(4,374 posts)we all agreed he should be dead... as in executed. We all agreed he was a traitor to the country via both the Insurrection and stealing/giving away/selling top secret documents. He should never have been allowed to even THINK about running for president, that led into "he should have been executed sometime within a year of the insurrection." And I think you know who's name was brought up after that... why did Garland wait so long? Did he have a deal worked out with the republican side? He is a republican, after all... just saying what was brought up in after dinner conversation yesterday... I don't know if it helped anyone's digestion, but we did feel better emotionally, and closer to each other, afterwards.
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,936 posts)Will never be my president. I hate all Nazis and fascists including that orange stain..
His appointees will be nothing but scum to me, his followers but trash and all of them are beneath me. And so I put them under my feet. I will not obey, ever.
kacekwl
(7,540 posts)unbelievable as that is but he will never be my president. If not for SS protection I would have no problem kicking him in the balls and pissing on him while he lay on the ground. Figuratively of course