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Stinky The Clown

(67,808 posts)
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:50 PM Dec 2012

Legal guns . . . .

. . . . were used to shoot Gabby Giffords and all those people in Arizona. Legal guns were used to shoot the people in the Aurora movie theater. The guns used by the two shooters in Columbine were obtained legally. The VA Tech shooter bought his guns legally.

And on and and on. And on.

Legal guns. All easily available to the shooters, no matter who bought them.

We need more than gun control.

We are waaaaaaaay beyond the "well regulated militia" thing. We are even beyond the fetish stage.

The guns were all legal. The implication is that the idea of "controlling" guns is pointless in the extreme. We need a stronger tactic.

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Legal guns . . . . (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Dec 2012 OP
Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #1
Yeehaw! bongbong Dec 2012 #3
The discussion begins...Let us hope Washington will do the same rustydog Dec 2012 #2
In my hoarse and weakened voice- Health care... health ... care.... Gregorian Dec 2012 #4
your half-right dpgillam Dec 2012 #5
Make Mike Bloomberg gun czar. His word is final on what should be done.Remove guns from street graham4anything Dec 2012 #6

Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
3. Yeehaw!
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:04 AM
Dec 2012

It would be great living in a place that was like Baghdad multiplied by Somalia!

"Hey, you looked at me!" BANG! "That'll show you not to look at me!"

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
4. In my hoarse and weakened voice- Health care... health ... care....
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:08 AM
Dec 2012

It really is about mental health, physical health, economic equality, women's rights, and a zillion other things, which all relate back to emotional, mental health.

Unhealthy minds gerimander to make us lose the House even though we had more votes. Unhealthy minds kill health care. Unhealthy minds invaded Iraq. Unhealthy minds need money to make up for their unhealthy minds, comprising most of that 1% we keep mentioning. Unhealthy emotional people try to limit clinics for women's reproductive care.

I've said for years that we should have an emotions denominator below which a politician should not be allowed to run for office. A sort of "You must be this emotionally healthy to run for office" sign.

I don't see any of the things that are causing us grief as coming from anything other than this one issue of mental health.

Poor mental health doesn't mean you're lying in a gutter with a bottle of beer. It's like tuning up an F1 car. Let's aim higher. Let's see how good and healthy a nation we can create.

Fuck the military spending, and let's focus on health.

Ok, I'm starting to sound like that old man with a front lawn.

 

dpgillam

(6 posts)
5. your half-right
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:15 AM
Dec 2012

It is about mental health.

A) we're in a society where a patient can sue if the doc declares him nuts; makes docs nervous to make that diagnosis, no matter how obvious it is
B) Insurance, even under the new reforms (as far as anyone knows; we're still trying to slog through it all to see whats really in there) may do well on physical health, but bupkis for mental. So its rather under-treated, and often, for the sake of money, under diagnosed
C)Under the current laws, there is no required reporting for most cases. So the police only find out your "stark raving mad" if you tell them, or after you do something bad.

You point out several important issues. Unfortunately, none of them has anything to do with this specific problem

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