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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCA Judge Suggests If Vagina Not ‘Shredded’ It’s Not ‘Real’ Rape
Last edited Sat Dec 15, 2012, 05:21 AM - Edit history (1)
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/12/14/ca-judge-suggests-if-vagina-not-shredded-its-not-real-rape/Johnson made the shocking remarks at the 2008 sentencing of a defendant convicted by jury of rape, forcible oral copulation, domestic battery with corporal injury, stalking, and three counts of criminal threats, with use of a deadly weapon as to one count, according to the Commissions release.
During the crime, the defendant had heated a screwdriver and threatened to use it to maim [the victims] face and vagina, threatened to burn her face and hair with a lit cigarette lighter, and threatened to shoot and kill her. He ordered her to perform fellatio, raped her, and ejaculated into her mouth.
Judge Johnson, who ironically is a former sex crimes prosecutor, wasnt buying No means no. Johnsons courtroom comments are included in the Commissions release:
Ive seen sexual assault. I have seen women who have been ravaged and savaged, whose vagina was shredded by the rape
if someone doesnt want to have sexual intercourse, the body shuts down. The body will not permit that to happen unless a lot of damage is inflicted, and we heard nothing about that in this case. That tells me that the victim in this case, although she wasnt necessarily willing, she didnt put up a fight. And to treat this case like the rape cases that we all hear about is an insult to victims of rape. I think its an insult. I think it trivializes a rape.
The prosecutor then responds that while the rapist was the victims ex-boyfriend, the woman didnt feel any less a rape victim because she had a [past] relationship with him. The attorney pushes the judge on why he isnt counting the defendants threats and use of a weapon as an aggravated count.
Johnson responds:
I just found the threats to be technical threats. I found this whole case to be a technical case. The rape is technical. The forced oral copulation is technical. Its more of a crim[inal] law test than a real live criminal case.
No doubt this was a real live rape for the woman who experienced it, despite Johnsons interpretation. The judge also said the rape crime was only worth six years, rejecting the prosecutors request for 16 years, based on a maximum sentence of 8 years each for two rape occasions: one for the vaginal rape and one for the oral.
The prosecutor then responds that while the rapist was the victims ex-boyfriend, the woman didnt feel any less a rape victim because she had a [past] relationship with him. The attorney pushes the judge on why he isnt counting the defendants threats and use of a weapon as an aggravated count.
Johnson responds:
I just found the threats to be technical threats. I found this whole case to be a technical case. The rape is technical. The forced oral copulation is technical. Its more of a crim[inal] law test than a real live criminal case.
No doubt this was a real live rape for the woman who experienced it, despite Johnsons interpretation. The judge also said the rape crime was only worth six years, rejecting the prosecutors request for 16 years, based on a maximum sentence of 8 years each for two rape occasions: one for the vaginal rape and one for the oral.
Do you think this joke of a judge should be removed from the bench?
Write to the California Commission on Judicial Performance (which doesnt accept complaints via phone or email):
455 Golden Gate Avenue, Suite 14400
San Francisco, CA 94102
Telephone: (415) 557-1200
FAX: (415) 557-1266
Write to the California Commission on Judicial Performance (which doesnt accept complaints via phone or email):
455 Golden Gate Avenue, Suite 14400
San Francisco, CA 94102
Telephone: (415) 557-1200
FAX: (415) 557-1266
edit to add: when I saw this story earlier without having read this article I was disgusted and recorded my suggestion that his "ignorant misogynistic ass" be thrown off of the bench. I have carefully reconsidered this former opinion and feel that it was too mild x 100000.
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CA Judge Suggests If Vagina Not ‘Shredded’ It’s Not ‘Real’ Rape (Original Post)
ashling
Dec 2012
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SheilaT
(23,156 posts)1. At the risk of being really callous,
I think he needs to experience rape.
LuvNewcastle
(16,847 posts)2. Does a man's anus need to be shredded in order
for him to claim he's been raped? Does no mean no or is it just technical rape if a man doesn't try harder to fend off his attacker? I think these questions are fair enough to be asked of this 'judge.'
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)3. FUCKING WHAT?!
That tells me that the victim in this case, although she wasnt necessarily willing, she didnt put up a fight. And to treat this case like the rape cases that we all hear about is an insult to victims of rape.
There are no words. At least none that wouldn't get me banned, I think.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)4. K&R!
This Judge shoud be disbarred. He is repulsive.
tclambert
(11,087 posts)5. 2012 will be remembered as the year of stupid, stupid comments about rape.
I haven't heard some of these stupidities since the 1970s, when we were discussing stupid things people used to say about rape. I thought they were dismissed and over with back then. Silly me.