It Looks Like This Tragedy Is Going To Drive The Country Even Farther Apart ----

[TheMastersNemesis]

The GOP will side with the NRA and religious fundy nutzies to bludgeon and intimidate anyone who even attempts to address any form of gun control. I can see billions of dollars now going against any politician who publicly opens their mouth. The GOP sees and opening to regain power if the really use this issue as a wedge issue.

They will start branding Democrats in particular as the "take your guns away" party selling off the country to the UN and foreign powers. The tragedy is already bringing out and exposing the GOP operatives and trolls on this site. Then again none of their children or kin were tragically killed.

[alcibiades_mystery]

1. We need to be unintimidated - we have been intimidated by the gun groups for too long

We have tried reasoning and negotiating with them. Now we just need to defeat them at the polls, period. We need a mass movement to defeat them at the polls. The time for dialogue and negotiation and discussion is over. They are not people of good will or good faith. It's time to simply impose some reason on their practices and be done with them.

[Hoyt]

13. Exactly.

[politicaljunkie41910]

17. I dont' think it has to be us against them in this issue. After all, those dead white

children are more likely to resemble the GOP than they are the Democratic Party. This may be just the straw that breaks the NRC's back when people see that the boogey man is not some young, black urban man from a mother on food stamps, but the troubled white young man next door.

[Kei7777]

2. Maybe the people here should start thinking about this rationally and stop playing into their hand.

[Turbineguy]

3. You mean like

not going out to buy a gun to defend yourself from gun nuts?

[alcibiades_mystery]

7. "Thinking rationally" for NRA trolls means doing nothing and acquiescing to their every demand

These people, these stooges for the gun manufacturing industry, need to be defeated, not bargained with. They need to have their position demolished rhetorically and routed at the polls. End of story. That's the only rational response to the catastrophe of death and suffering that they have set loose on our country and people.

[WinkyDink]

6. Maybe you belong elsewhere.

[spanone]

10. piss off.

[Cosmocat]

4. it is so sad

IF we have a functional society, the dialogue would COME FROM the advocates.

They should be the source of the discussion of some kind of reasonable response to these types of situations.

But, in the surreal world that is America, they end up screaming about how much THEY are the victims.

[WinkyDink]

5. Let's all fear the Republicans, shall we?

[TheMastersNemesis]

12. Even Though I Said They Will Use This Tragedy To Drive Us Farther Apart Did Not Mean That ----

we should not fight them. It means that we should finally start challenging them even further. We are facing a battle with the GOP that has been coming for a long time over this issue and others that needs to be settled. We need to take it to them on this issue in particular and add the other issues where they have gotten their way. No compromise now on this issue or any other.

[etherealtruth]

8. I am finished keeping my shut

NOW IS THE TIME TO SPEAK OUT ... SPEAK OUT OFTEN ... SPEAK OUT LOUDLY

[Edweird]

9. Dems own guns too.

[baldguy]

11. The tragedy will bring the sane, the compassionate, the reasonable people together to find solutions

And will leave the insane, the uncompassionate & the unreasonable out in the cold.

[Jamastiene]

14. And of course the mentally ill will all be lumped in together and considered just like the fuckhead

who killed all those innocent children too. It is already happening on DU. Nothing like being compared to someone who just committed an act I find abhorrent. Gee, thanks DU, for saying I am just like that asshole. I needed that when the shootings bother me really bad too. I guess I'm on my goddamn own when it comes to coping with the horror at what happened, because DU is one fucking anti-mentally ill place and getting worse by the minute. "Loony bin?" Really? Gee, thanks assholes.

[TheMastersNemesis]

16. Our Attitude Toward The Mentally Ill Shows Our Ignorance

Not all mentally ill people are violent. Actually very few are really violent. Prayer and the Bible will not explain what conditions create someone who is murderous and dangerous. And prayer will not fix the situation either.

Ever since Reagan we have gone backwards in the treatment of mental illness. We have replaced understanding through the science of sociology and psychology and replaced it with nothing more akin to voodooism. Prayer and plain faith fall into that category

Saying that taking the Bible, prayer and religion out of public schools being the reason for these shooting is so absurd and stupid. It is particularly ironic when these same fundy nutzies are the ones sowing hatred, intolerance and division as well as openly arming everyone.

We are still in the dark ages when it comes to the understanding and treatment of mental illness and sociopathy. At a time when we need to address these issues, the GOP and its allies want to strip all levels of government of the ability to do anything and actually replace it with religion really.

Sever a jugular and the GOP will subscribe a bandaid.

[dembotoz]

15. yep we need to find a way to make it ok for hunters to hunt

we need to avoid driving them into the arms of the nra and tea party