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proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:28 AM Dec 2012

We have that same security system at my school.

We used to have a phone system. The visitor picked up the phone, the office staff answered and after talking to the visitor, buzzed them in (or not). Then someone decided the buzzer system with a camera was better. So they took the phones away. Now the visitor just presses the buzzer, the office staff looks at the monitor to see who it is and buzzes them in (or not).

I have never once seen them refuse to buzz anyone in. If it's obviously a child (they are short) they always buzz them in without question. Once in awhile, the office staff may press the microphone button and ask who it is. But most of the time, they just buzz them in.

EVERYONE has to use this system. Parents, kids, teachers. Schools are busy places. So they buzz people in every few minutes all day long.

I know - now they are saying this kid shot the window in the door out and that's how he got in. But I can't help but realize this buzzer system is really not very secure.

I don't know what would be better. Perhaps employees should have cards or keys so they don't have to use the buzzer. Then maybe we would be more cautious about who we buzz in.

A couple years ago, as I was walking by the door, a lady outside was banging on it and wanted me to let her in. We preach to the kids to never do this. I was with my class and didn't want them to see me breaking a rule. So I motioned at the buzzer on the wall next to the door and told her to push it. She did, waited a few seconds and was buzzed in. And she immediately saw me in the hall and ripped me for being rude and not letting her in. She was an insurance vendor who was dropping off literature for school employees. And she was in a hurry. I asked if her insurance company sold coverage to teachers who were fired for not following security procedures. She didn't reply, just asked where the office was and walked away. Apparently she complained to the principal, who mentioned this at a staff meeting and thanked the unidentified staff member for refusing to let the lady in.

Anyhow, I dreamt about this inefficient security system last night. When I slept.

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We have that same security system at my school. (Original Post) proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 OP
Press Conference: Downwinder Dec 2012 #1
So now we'll all get systems that are supposedly even more secure. proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #3
Lots of ways to circumvent that... Obviously anyone could just grab a child on the way to school hlthe2b Dec 2012 #2
Or just crouch down and look like a short person. proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #5
Much of what passes for security is to make people feel more secure rather than actually PoliticAverse Dec 2012 #4
And to enrich whoever is selling the security system. proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #6
Back in 1989 a bunch of kids were shot in a school yard XemaSab Dec 2012 #7
I like the sound of that hfojvt Dec 2012 #9
less than ten years ago hfojvt Dec 2012 #8

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
3. So now we'll all get systems that are supposedly even more secure.
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:42 AM
Dec 2012

No more windows on doors. That's a given.

hlthe2b

(102,294 posts)
2. Lots of ways to circumvent that... Obviously anyone could just grab a child on the way to school
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:33 AM
Dec 2012

and having them with them, be admitted.

Yet, I don't doubt those staff who try to question are reamed out by hurried parents or others.

I imagine after these most recent incidents, there will be far more latitude offered for those who want to tighten up the process. That said, a disturbed person with a gun intent on getting in, IS going to get it, as seems to be the case here. I guess the only comfort we can take is that those individuals who might want to do so, are quite rare.

so very very sad...

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
5. Or just crouch down and look like a short person.
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:44 AM
Dec 2012

Figured that one out as soon as they put the stupid cameras in.

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
6. And to enrich whoever is selling the security system.
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:45 AM
Dec 2012

It's a public school district. You always have to wonder who is making money off the taxpayers.

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
7. Back in 1989 a bunch of kids were shot in a school yard
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:49 AM
Dec 2012

What are we going to do, put a brick wall with concertina wire and guard towers around every school ground in the country?

As well as malls, theaters, swimming pools, churches, city hall meetings, offices, and EVERY SINGLE OTHER PUBLIC SPACE?

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
9. I like the sound of that
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:01 PM
Dec 2012

it sounds musical



Concertina.

Buy the way, Beethoven's birthday is tomorrow.


Just in case you were thinking of getting me a present. Today is like your last day to shop.


Man, this pianoforte player is so lame. I am listening as I type. Flawless, but dammit man, put some FEELING into it. I may need to check how it is written though. For example, when I play this piece, the last two notes are played FF. This person played them pp. I personally find da-DAA to be a more satisfying ending than plink-plink.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
8. less than ten years ago
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:49 AM
Dec 2012

I was able to walk right in to my unlocked neighborhood grade school.

Heck, maybe even five years ago.

Now though, thanks to the school bond, I don't even have a neighborhood grade school.

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