Is it possible to have a rational discussion without the F word?

[politicaljunkie41910]

There seems to be a pattern where posters throw out the F bomb when they disagree with a post rather than posting a coherent response to the otherwise offending post. F bombs do nothing to advance the conversation and it doesn't make one look smart or informed. If someone says something you obviously disagree with, there is no requirement that you respond. In fact, your silence is the ultimate ignore button. So can those of you who are guilty of it, cut it out.

[leftstreet]

1. Yeah, but the film industry would collapse

It's more a generally accepted term these days, devoid of the impact it once had

Who the fuck cares really

[politicaljunkie41910]

3. I had a feeling someone would use it in a response, but I was hoping I would be wrong.

But human nature being what it is, I see you didn't want to disappoint. Even though as you claim, it is generally accepted, (and I would disagree that it is) why do you think that this crudeness is constructive. I think it just adds to the public discourse, particularly at a time when we as a nation could use less of it.

[leftstreet]

6. Are there other words on your list, or just that one?

Why have you determined that particular word erodes public discourse?

[treestar]

20. well come on

it is the most vulgar of words in our language, no? We do recognize that, and the fact that other vulgarisms are milder (damn, shit, hell)

[EvolveOrConvolve]

2. Who the fuck knows?

That's a tough fucking question to answer.

[politicaljunkie41910]

5. See my response to the No. 1 post above.

[cynatnite]

4. You want me to cut it the fuck out? Umm...nope, don't think I will...

I'm not as angry as I was yesterday so I may not use it as much today. I use fuck according to my moods.

George Carlin gives a great tutorial on the subject of the word fuck.

[tabasco]

7. Call the fucking waaaahmbulance.

No thank you to your bullshit dainty sensibilities.

[Skittles]

29. I HEAR YOU

and if there was ever a time to throw the F bomb around it is NOW

[Lex]

8. Board nannies

are tiresome.

[Puglover]

14. Hi Lex! LOL!

Board nannies
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1990453

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[Lex]

19. Hi! Wow!

Thanks for that.

[arthritisR_US]

9. There is something cathartic about those aggressive

k's

[dlwickham]

10. it is

but some people have to be childish about the whole thing

adult discourse is something very lacking on this site

[Springslips]

11. Funny

I am attempting to write a screenplay without using expletives, and I am finding it really hard to do.

I think there is a place for a good ole f-you, but we have made it so common place that we have ringed dry all meaning. Back in the 80s a middle finger or F-you was cause for fisticuffs. Today such insults don't even measure on the annoyance meter.

[politicaljunkie41910]

18. I agree with you that there may be a place for it. However it seems to be used quite commonly here

when it doesn't appear to be warranted. I personally chose to ignore the rest of the comment once I see it. I thought I'd let the offenders know just in case they didn't know that they were being offensive, and in case they may have something worth reading some day. I realize I may be a little older than most here and maybe the word has become a staple in this younger generation's vocabulary, which is why they resort back to using it since it's easier to throw out the F word rather than find another way to voice their frustration or disagreement.

[SharonAnn]

34. I am actually preparing a request to the mods that they allow us set our profile to (bleep)

that word out. I can't tell you how obnoxious it is to read the word in so many posts. It's also very, very boring - as if people's command of the English language is not sufficient to express themselves with other words.

When it's used as a noun, a verb, an adjective, an adverb, a gerund ..... you get the idea.

[politicaljunkie41910]

35. I'm not trying to censor anyone. As I responded to some others

I didn't know whether they knew how offensive they are and I wanted to let them know, since I usually just ignore responses that include it. I thought I'd give them the benefit of the fact that I'm probably older than most here who use that word and let them know just in case that they really have something worthwhile to say, it shouldn't get lost or skipped over because some my age may find it offensive.

Instead the majority showed their immaturity, which just makes my point, by seeing how obnoxious they could be.

[undeterred]

12. Apparently not.

And even some published authors seem to depend on it for a headline grabber.

[Lizzie Poppet]

13. Sorry, Mom...

[SidDithers]

15. This is how adults sometimes talk...

deal with it.

Sid

[RomneyLies]

16. Fuck no

[sufrommich]

17. This is Meta. nt

[PasadenaTrudy]

21. Times like these...

call for colorful language!

[treestar]

22. It's a DU staple

I agree with your point that it's unresponsive and uncreative. I often wonder if they comedians who use it could try to do the same act without it - would they be just as funny? Or would the same act fall flat without the fucks? who knows, none of them will try it. It seems like a short cut most of the time.

[Major Nikon]

28. I think freeperland has a policy against naughty words

I don't really see as how it's made them any more responsive or creative. Others may disagree.

Lots of creative people use naughty words to great effect.

[dawg]

23. Not here.

But I agree with you. It's just silly to throw the F word into everything.

And I'm sure I'm guilty of using it too, but I try to avoid doing so. (Actually, I have no problem with using the word, but I prefer only to use it in it's proper context .... a situation that unfortunately has not arisen in some while.)

[politicaljunkie41910]

27. As I said in another post

I usually ignore posts when I see the word, but I thought I'd let the offenders know that just in case there are others like me, and in case the offender did not know that they were being offensive and had something worth saying. But thanks for your response.

[socialist_n_TN]

24. How can one be rational with something as irrational as the ........

shooting and killing of KINDERGARTENERS?????????? I'm more worried about guns and the people who have access to them to worry about a FUCKING word.

[Major Nikon]

25. It's possible to have one with it

Just sayin'

[CBGLuthier]

26. I do not have to disagree to say fucking or fuck

or any other variation. It is a word that adults use. Get over it.

No fucking anger at all, see.

[Skittles]

30. so you dig the ugly world of politics but cannot handle "F bombs"

[politicaljunkie41910]

31. In case you're interested

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021990227#post28

[Skittles]

32. in case you're interested

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1990452

[Vinnie From Indy]

33. Fuckin' A' Man!

Cheers!

[Tsiyu]

36. We use a lot of swearese on this site

We always fucking have.

We always fucking will.

This is the fucking underground, where we assume you are a grown-up and not a delicate little flower.

If you don't fucking like it, I would suggest putting people like me on fucking ignore.

Have a great fucking day!