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rhiannon55

(2,671 posts)
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 03:26 PM Dec 2012

So, what are those guns for, really?

Missouri is a conceal carry state, and my conservative, right wing brother says he always carries at least two guns everywhere he goes. He actually told me once that he's glad he's on his psych meds because they're the only thing that has kept him from shooting me when we've argued about politics. So, I guess he wins. No way will I argue with him about politics now. I have known him all my life and we both used to enjoy debating with each other. No more. The older he's gotten, the crazier and more dangerous. Maybe this has helped form my opinions about guns. He hasn't yet had to fight off a bad guy with those guns, but he sure is ready to shoot family members. Thank goodness for those meds!

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So, what are those guns for, really? (Original Post) rhiannon55 Dec 2012 OP
If she thought the economy was going to collapse... dkf Dec 2012 #1
She? rhiannon55 Dec 2012 #3
The kid's mother. Jim Warren Dec 2012 #4
If you feel threatened AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #2
If I lived near him, I might feel threatened. rhiannon55 Dec 2012 #7
Yah man but he might be a danger to others not just to you AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #10
Yikes, I hope his comment was in jest iemitsu Dec 2012 #5
According to your brother, they are for self defense. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #6
WTF? AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #11
What I said was pretty clear. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #18
For self defense. white_wolf Dec 2012 #8
Shotguns are seriously overblown as self defense ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #13
As SOON as he told me he needed to be "kept" from shooting me he'd have been reported to the proper cherokeeprogressive Dec 2012 #9
You make a good point. rhiannon55 Dec 2012 #14
Please don't argue with your brother again. Kingofalldems Dec 2012 #16
I didn't post to simply be rude, please understand that. cherokeeprogressive Dec 2012 #17
'freedom' KG Dec 2012 #12
Are you being sarcastic? AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #15
 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
1. If she thought the economy was going to collapse...
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 03:29 PM
Dec 2012

You know what they say about that. Guns and gold.

 

AldoLeopold

(617 posts)
2. If you feel threatened
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 03:31 PM
Dec 2012

Do you think it might be prudent to file a police report? At least they will have it in their records.

rhiannon55

(2,671 posts)
7. If I lived near him, I might feel threatened.
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 03:33 PM
Dec 2012

Since I see him about twice a year at family gatherings, I simply don't mention politics to him. Actually, I barely talk to him at all; we have nothing to say to each other anymore.

 

AldoLeopold

(617 posts)
10. Yah man but he might be a danger to others not just to you
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 03:50 PM
Dec 2012

People on psych meds probably shouldn't own firearms - but I would let his local police department know about your experiences. My son is on psych meds, so I'm not biased here.

Historically, psych meds + firearms just hasn't worked out well. Ask President Reagan. Well, you can't, but...

iemitsu

(3,888 posts)
5. Yikes, I hope his comment was in jest
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 03:33 PM
Dec 2012

but I would stop debating politics with him too. In fact I might stop being in his presence, ever. Someone who would say that to a sibling is scary.
Does Missouri's concealed weapons law allow people on psych meds to arm themselves without restriction?
If so, its a good enough reason for me to avoid going to that state

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
6. According to your brother, they are for self defense.
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 03:33 PM
Dec 2012

Seems to work. You have not threatened to kill him, and he has not needed to defend himself from you.

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
18. What I said was pretty clear.
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 04:21 PM
Dec 2012

What Rhiannon said, well, not so much. I am pretty sure that what I said was not what she meant even though that is what she wrote.


white_wolf

(6,238 posts)
8. For self defense.
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 03:35 PM
Dec 2012

But for home self defense you really don't need anything more than a shotgun. It's much better than a pistol for that. There is less of a risk of the shells going through walls or hurting someone and plus since they are harder to shoot there is less of a chance of an accident. I don't see the need for handguns they are very risky. Really though these people who carry handguns with them wherever they go are just pathetic. If you are that paranoid you need to see a doctor. I wouldn't care a bit if the government banned handgun ownership along with all semi-automatic rifles.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
13. Shotguns are seriously overblown as self defense
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 04:10 PM
Dec 2012

If you are proficient with a pistol you will be much safer and better prepared. Its better than nothing, but much less effective that a handgun in an altercation.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
9. As SOON as he told me he needed to be "kept" from shooting me he'd have been reported to the proper
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 03:39 PM
Dec 2012

authorities.

The way it stands now, IF he were ever to shoot someone, ANYONE, the blood would be on your hands. I'm assuming you could live with that. I know I couldn't.

rhiannon55

(2,671 posts)
14. You make a good point.
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 04:10 PM
Dec 2012

Since he surrounds himself with other right wing Mormons like him, I have assumed that he doesn't get that angry very often, especially now that he's medicated.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
17. I didn't post to simply be rude, please understand that.
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 04:15 PM
Dec 2012

Pointing out those individuals even remotely likely to lash out at others with guns might just be a first step in curbing these inconceivable tragedies.

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