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Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 06:13 PM Dec 2012

IMO, there's no need for a semi-auto rifle outside the shooting range.

Need it for hunting? Learn to fucking shoot.

Tax the living hell out of their purchases and charge a hefty fee for permits to possess them. Ban them for hunting.

Bump clips, high capacity magazines and other such bullshit? Gone for private ownership. Want to play with them? Rent them from the range, and return them before you go.

It's a start.



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IMO, there's no need for a semi-auto rifle outside the shooting range. (Original Post) Barack_America Dec 2012 OP
Yes...and I'd like those who disagree with you to tell us exactly why you NEED a Bushmaster at home BeyondGeography Dec 2012 #1
Why would there be a need Control-Z Dec 2012 #2
So you can take several shots without changing posture. HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #4
They're used for open field hunting, HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #3
They aren't needed for it. digonswine Dec 2012 #5
Any rifle can miss or wound with first shot. HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #6
A rifle will fire accurately where aimed-the hunter is the key. digonswine Dec 2012 #7
Never got one by firearm. HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #11
Damn right!!!! newfie11 Dec 2012 #8
There probably isn't much need for one on a shooting range either, honestly Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #9
Actually there is a change for more semi auto precision rifles in the sniper community former-republican Dec 2012 #14
Hunting is not protected by the second amendment frank380 Dec 2012 #10
Interesting post, and welcome to DU. hrmjustin Dec 2012 #13
Well... k2qb3 Dec 2012 #12
I didn't say "hand in". Barack_America Dec 2012 #15

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
1. Yes...and I'd like those who disagree with you to tell us exactly why you NEED a Bushmaster at home
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 06:16 PM
Dec 2012

or anything similar. What on earth do you do with such a gun besides use it for target practice?

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
4. So you can take several shots without changing posture.
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 06:30 PM
Dec 2012

With a bolt-action rifle, you have to remove your finger from trigger to operate the bolt, and have to move your head slightly during that process. With a semi-automatic you take a shot, check aim, and take another shot, etc...without any body movement.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
3. They're used for open field hunting,
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 06:25 PM
Dec 2012

where it's possible to get off several shots. In heavy underbrush, you only get one shot...so a semi-automatic is pretty useless.

digonswine

(1,485 posts)
5. They aren't needed for it.
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 06:34 PM
Dec 2012

Generally, if a person is blowing rounds that fast, they are not aiming well.
Up here(Wisconsin), when we hear a guy blasting a semi-auto, we can usually assume he or she is just missing.
If a hunter is not as near to certain as is possible that they are going to make a good first shot, they should pass and wait for another opportunity.
Not only is it wasteful, but they tend to injure more animals that then get away, often to suffer terribly until death. Bad hunter.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
6. Any rifle can miss or wound with first shot.
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 07:01 PM
Dec 2012

A semi-auto lets you get off a quicker second (or even third) shot that will hopefully bring down the animal. Agree with you that throwing a bunch of lead in the air without aiming is wasteful and pointless.
However, my perspective is limited. I've only been hunting a few times, many years ago. Each time was wild boar hunting, in Florida palmetto thickets. Very close range, and only one shot was possible, so I used my brother's shotgun, loaded with a slug. A semi-automatic would be useless, as would a .223. Also tried shooting a gator once with a .22. That was laughable....bounced right off.

digonswine

(1,485 posts)
7. A rifle will fire accurately where aimed-the hunter is the key.
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 07:08 PM
Dec 2012

If necessary, with my lever action, I can get off a second shot very quickly without needing to re-aim much, and I am no trick-shot artist.
My point was that those guns are not necessary. People may want them, but they can hunt perfectly well without them. Did you get a boar? I always wondered how they taste.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
11. Never got one by firearm.
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 07:29 PM
Dec 2012

We eventually figured out traps were much more effective. Taste is much gamier than pig. Brother used to make wild boar sausage, which ended up tasting better when mixed 50/50 with regular pork sausage. Then one time he cut open a boar to butcher it, and the insides were crawling with worms. Ugh, disgusting. Kind of turned us both off.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
9. There probably isn't much need for one on a shooting range either, honestly
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 07:25 PM
Dec 2012

bolt-action rifles are more often the weapon of choice for precision shooting (there's a reason military snipers use bolt-action and not semi-auto; bolt-action allows for higher cartridge pressures and thus a higher muzzle velocity for precision shooting at extreme-range targets).

 

frank380

(27 posts)
10. Hunting is not protected by the second amendment
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 07:27 PM
Dec 2012

Neither is competition shooting or casual shooting.

The only thing protected by the constitution is owning guns to resist an oppressive govt like in the civil war.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
13. Interesting post, and welcome to DU.
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 08:14 PM
Dec 2012

I disagree that the gov't was oppressive during the civil war but i understanding your meaning.

 

k2qb3

(374 posts)
12. Well...
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 07:35 PM
Dec 2012

The semi-auto rifle I own is my grandfathers WWII service rifle, which my father tracked down by serial number through the civilian marksmanship program and which came through them to me. Millions of Americans have similar heirlooms, and I doubt many of them would hand them in.


Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
15. I didn't say "hand in".
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 09:21 PM
Dec 2012

I said high taxes on new purchases and, if possible, higher permit fees to own them.

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