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Syria - Victory is from Allah only, not Obama, not Erdogan, not the Arab League (Original Post) tabatha Jan 2012 OP
So it looks like they are screwing up right? Tx4obama Jan 2012 #1
The Libyans were against outside help at the beginning, too. tabatha Jan 2012 #2
Perhaps you missed this news item: Opposition Syrian Nat'l Council Lobbying for Outside Intervention leveymg Jan 2012 #6
No, I did not miss it. tabatha Jan 2012 #7
China and Russia won't allow any international intervention in Syria. This isn't Libya. Selatius Jan 2012 #3
Syria is Russia's final outpost. tabatha Jan 2012 #4
That was beautiful. Shame they won't get help. joshcryer Jan 2012 #5

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
1. So it looks like they are screwing up right?
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 07:34 AM
Jan 2012

Libya asked for help from The U.N. and The USA and that worked out pretty well.

The folks that ask for help from 'only' Allah/God usually end up like the recent GOP candidates that said God told them to run.

tabatha

(18,795 posts)
2. The Libyans were against outside help at the beginning, too.
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 07:40 AM
Jan 2012

Some in Syria now want help.

As for "only from Allah", I think that is a good thing, quite frankly. They cannot be accused of being NATO stooges.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
6. Perhaps you missed this news item: Opposition Syrian Nat'l Council Lobbying for Outside Intervention
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 10:25 AM
Jan 2012

Syrian opposition presses for UN intervention
Foreign affairs editor Peter Cave, wires
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-01-23/syrian-opposition-to-press-un-intervention/3787036?section=world

Posted January 23, 2012 00:25:04
Arab League Secretary General Nabil Elaraby Photo: Arab League secretary general Nabil Elaraby meets the observer committee in Cairo. (Reuters: Mohamed Abd El-Ghany)
Related Story: Arab League debates future of Syrian mission
Related Story: Syria rejects calls for Arab force
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Related Story: Qatar calls for military intervention in Syria
Map: Syrian Arab Republic

The Syrian National Council is planning to send a delegation to the United Nations to press the Security Council to intervene in the country. A spokesman for the Syrian National Council said its members did not believe the Arab League observers report would be objective.

<. . .>

The Arab League could expand the mission to more than 300 observers from more than 160 now deployed across Syria, according to a source in the mission. But the opposition Syrian National Council has been lobbying for UN intervention and said it will reveal "a counter-report" later on Sunday to try to discredit General Dabi's account.

ABC/AFP


It's all just an internal uprising, and will stay that way, my ass.

tabatha

(18,795 posts)
7. No, I did not miss it.
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 02:04 PM
Jan 2012

Different groups have different opinions. There are many who want to do it themselves; in fact that is how they started out.

EDIT
You replied to a post that stated this

"Some in Syria now want help. "

Did YOU miss that?

Selatius

(20,441 posts)
3. China and Russia won't allow any international intervention in Syria. This isn't Libya.
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 07:41 AM
Jan 2012

Syria has much stronger relations with China, Russia, and Iran than Libya ever did. Because of this, any help at the United Nations would be instantly blocked on the UN Security Council because they would veto such an attempt outright.

tabatha

(18,795 posts)
4. Syria is Russia's final outpost.
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 07:45 AM
Jan 2012

Russia has signlled that they cannot do anything to stop help if the Arab League wants it - but they know that the head of the Arab League monitor mission is not exactly for the protesters, so it will not happen.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
5. That was beautiful. Shame they won't get help.
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 08:53 AM
Jan 2012

What's worse is that Homs has become an open, free, city, like Kronstadt before the Soviets crushed it, and Benghazi before help arrived. They will not give up this new found freedom of expression so easily.

edit: before the name callers come in here: by "help" I do not mean militarily, these are mostly unarmed people, and have not taken this to the level of civil war by any means, they need compassion, oversight, caring. They represent a massive number of Syrians, several times bigger than the Egyptian protesters proportionately.

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