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Some people are looking forward to going over the cliff. (Original Post) pnwmom Dec 2012 OP
There is no cliff. bluestateguy Dec 2012 #1
Sequestration is the cliff, and it sure as hell exists ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #2
400 in people in Tucson alone will argue with you. n/t Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2012 #4
It exists to the millions who will immediately lose their unemployment insurance. pnwmom Dec 2012 #5
Yes, they are fearful and should be. madfloridian Dec 2012 #7
Much of this is on Pres Obama Resonance_Chamber Dec 2012 #10
Wrong. Obama extended the cuts in order to get the Rethugs to agree pnwmom Dec 2012 #11
Facts is facts Obama met the demands of the hostage takers Resonance_Chamber Dec 2012 #12
Just repeating your earlier post doesn't strengthen it. pnwmom Dec 2012 #15
Gaming the intransigent? reteachinwi Dec 2012 #3
I think going over the so-called cliff hfojvt Dec 2012 #6
I totally agree! B Calm Dec 2012 #8
+1 Poll_Blind Dec 2012 #14
the biggest hypers of the cliff are CNBC Enrique Dec 2012 #9
Yes, it was a feeding frenzy back in 2008 siligut Dec 2012 #13

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
1. There is no cliff.
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 07:07 PM
Dec 2012

don't get agitated over something that doesn't exist. What is happening in Newtown is more important anyway.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
2. Sequestration is the cliff, and it sure as hell exists
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 08:27 PM
Dec 2012

The tax rate issue is a just a distraction. Debt ceiling also matters.

pnwmom

(108,991 posts)
5. It exists to the millions who will immediately lose their unemployment insurance.
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 03:23 AM
Dec 2012

And to the millions who face the prospect of losing government jobs due to the automatic cutbacks.

 

Resonance_Chamber

(142 posts)
10. Much of this is on Pres Obama
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 07:48 AM
Dec 2012

He is the one who Extended the Bush/Obama tax cuts for 2 years.

President Obama is the one who gave into the hostage takers and accepted this deal.

Many here support his capitulation too.

Everyone has known for 2 years what is going to happen 1/1/13 and this administration and the Democrats in Congress have does NOTHING at all to reduce the impact going over the cliff for the most vulnerable.

A little too late to be whining now.

pnwmom

(108,991 posts)
11. Wrong. Obama extended the cuts in order to get the Rethugs to agree
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 12:50 PM
Dec 2012

to an extension of unemployment benefits two years ago -- an extension that was critical, both for the families involved and for the overall economy. It was the best choice he could make under the circumstances.

The Democrats in Congress can't work alone, and neither can Obama. It is the Rethugs who are determined to hurt the most vulnerable and to help those who least need it.

 

Resonance_Chamber

(142 posts)
12. Facts is facts Obama met the demands of the hostage takers
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 01:01 PM
Dec 2012

and they are doing it again just like many said would happen 2 years ago.

pnwmom

(108,991 posts)
15. Just repeating your earlier post doesn't strengthen it.
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 01:17 PM
Dec 2012

Facts ARE facts, and you don't seem to be in possession of them. Hence, you repeat yourself.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
6. I think going over the so-called cliff
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 03:31 AM
Dec 2012

is likely to be better than any deal we are gonna get. I'd rather see all the Bush tax cuts expire than to see Democrats celebrating a deal that keeps 90% of them,

Like that's some sort of victory.

Although it would be a victory - for the rich.

And people would be told it was a "tax increase" on the rich. As if the 10% that they lost was bigger than the 90% that they would keep.

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