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dsc

(52,172 posts)
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 12:02 AM Jan 2013

So are we ready for a LGBT cabinet member?

First the openings. Commerce, Treasury, Defense are for sure openings. Maybe AG. For Commerce there are several possibilities. The current CEO of Apple, Tim Cook, is openly gay. Mitchel Gold, who runs a very labor friendly furniture manufacturing business is also openly gay. Fred Hochberg, current head of the export import bank, is openly gay. Any of those would make great Commerce Secretaries. For Treasury, Barney Frank would be great. He is both a liberal and an expert on these matters. The question is, would he take the appointment? I think for a few years he would. Defense is tougher. Frank has great views but no experience so he is a non starter. Frankly, I can't think of anyone who we could put there who is openly gay.

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So are we ready for a LGBT cabinet member? (Original Post) dsc Jan 2013 OP
What kind of a question is that? donheld Jan 2013 #1
I think the OP worded it wrong Taverner Jan 2013 #19
You do know Barney Frank has resigned... arthritisR_US Jan 2013 #2
He chose not to run for Congress again dsc Jan 2013 #5
Not running for office means he has resigned arthritisR_US Jan 2013 #14
What office is Hagle running for? Bluenorthwest Jan 2013 #20
Quite true, but Hagel has been out of office for some time and has expressed interest whereas arthritisR_US Jan 2013 #26
Cabinet - not comittee Capt. Obvious Jan 2013 #24
No dsc Jan 2013 #27
So, Mr Frank is available to be Secretary of Defense JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2013 #22
Do you actually know what the sexual preference of any Cabinet member is? brooklynite Jan 2013 #3
I know they aren't openly gay dsc Jan 2013 #6
They're not openly anything... brooklynite Jan 2013 #12
for the same reason that knowing FDR's Sec of Labor was a woman was important dsc Jan 2013 #13
Just why was such knowledge important for arthritisR_US Jan 2013 #15
not for them dsc Jan 2013 #17
Oh ok, I see what you are getting at. n/m arthritisR_US Jan 2013 #18
That last line of the OP should help some add up two and two and get why it is important... Bluenorthwest Jan 2013 #21
Acting Sec of Commerce Rebecca Blank? Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #4
Donovan is married to a woman dsc Jan 2013 #7
If I was Obama, I would simply pick whoever I thought best for the job. Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #8
He might have binders full of gay people to choose from Capt. Obvious Jan 2013 #25
What does it take to be "openly gay" these days? Hekate Jan 2013 #9
I would think at the very least dsc Jan 2013 #10
Thanks for your take on it Hekate Jan 2013 #11
You have so much to teach me, I am learning arthritisR_US Jan 2013 #16
Should it matter? Remmah2 Jan 2013 #23
Romney had a similar reason Capt. Obvious Jan 2013 #28
The old boys network. Remmah2 Jan 2013 #29

arthritisR_US

(7,300 posts)
2. You do know Barney Frank has resigned...
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 12:36 AM
Jan 2013

of course they are ready, they have been for years. Where have you been?

dsc

(52,172 posts)
5. He chose not to run for Congress again
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 01:02 AM
Jan 2013

that isn't the same as not wanting a cabinet office. I will admit, he does sound like he is looking forward to private life though.

arthritisR_US

(7,300 posts)
26. Quite true, but Hagel has been out of office for some time and has expressed interest whereas
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 04:31 PM
Jan 2013

from every interview I have seen with Barney he is looking for a rest.

dsc

(52,172 posts)
27. No
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 05:24 PM
Jan 2013

in point of fact Kerry is resigning his Senate seat to become SOS. Frank had his congressional district changed drastically in redistricting and that was part of the reason he decided not to run.

brooklynite

(94,907 posts)
3. Do you actually know what the sexual preference of any Cabinet member is?
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 12:36 AM
Jan 2013

Or do you just "assume" they're all hetero?

brooklynite

(94,907 posts)
12. They're not openly anything...
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 08:11 AM
Jan 2013

Why is knowing the sexual preference of the Secretary of Transportation, or Agriculture, or Commerce important?

dsc

(52,172 posts)
13. for the same reason that knowing FDR's Sec of Labor was a woman was important
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 12:16 PM
Jan 2013

for the same reason knowing that Thurgood Marshall was black was important.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
21. That last line of the OP should help some add up two and two and get why it is important...
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 03:40 PM
Jan 2013

The OP can not think of an openly gay person suited for DOD. Why is that? Well because until last year, military people HAD to be closeted for their entire professional lives. Thus, there are no potential nominees, no one I want to see promoted to other positions and no one to stand as role model to gay youth who might have an interest in military service or civilian participation in the DOD. If it is so very unimportant, as some straight folks like to suggest, then why did straight folks have actual laws for actual generations saying 'If we know you get jail'? Why indeed was the 'compromise' we lived with for years all about 'Don't tell'? Answer me that, as a representative of the 'why do you think it is important' straights. Who made it important? Straight people who claimed that it had to be illegal, then illegal to admit it. Our military had a law saying 'just don't be open'.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
4. Acting Sec of Commerce Rebecca Blank?
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 12:58 AM
Jan 2013

Possibly gay?

Shaun L.S. Donovan, Sec of HUD? Possibly gay?

Janet Napolitano, Sec of Homeland Security?

Then there are members of the staff whose positions are cabinet level. But I got tired of looking up bios.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
8. If I was Obama, I would simply pick whoever I thought best for the job.
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 01:26 AM
Jan 2013

Their personal life is irrelevant.

Hekate

(90,962 posts)
9. What does it take to be "openly gay" these days?
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 01:28 AM
Jan 2013

Such as:

Everybody in the office knows but you never exactly announced it
You bring your SO to the company picnic, but never put it in the company newsletter
You hold a high-level non-elected office but just keep your private life private without lying

Or do you have to give an interview on national television in which you announce your LGBT-ness, introduce your partner, and submit to many questions about how you feel about it?

I'm just curious, because while it is nice to set a good example, it is also nice not to be the designated token representative.

dsc

(52,172 posts)
10. I would think at the very least
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 01:38 AM
Jan 2013

if the person has a spouse (of the same sex) that spouse would be at the hearings and swearing in as opposite sex spouses typically are. Given the fact that these are political people we are talking about (for the most part) and given the fact that we don't have our legal rights yet, it would seem that there would be a decent amount of involvement in lgbt causes.

arthritisR_US

(7,300 posts)
16. You have so much to teach me, I am learning
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 02:54 PM
Jan 2013

slowly but surely. Always a pleasure to read and follow your example

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