Insulting the genitalia of gun owners is ridiculous, childish and accomplishes nothing

[ButterflyBlood]

I'm not a gun owner, I don't plan on owning any and I think most (though obviously not all) gun owners are paranoid fools, as proven by the surge in sales after Obama's reelection and ones screaming about how the big bad gubmint wants to take their guns away. But these type of insults are quite counterproductive and go nowhere. They serve no purpose but making the anti-gun side look just as petty and childish and provide evidence to the claims that said people aren't concerned about public safety but simply hate guns and gun owners. They insult more rational gun owners and serve to alienate such people who aren't insane gun nuts and would be open to more restrictions. And they make no sense in regards to the many female gun owners.

Seriously this line of "argument" needs to stop. It's a lot like trashing Ann Coulter for her looks instead of the drivel she says.

[PDJane]

1. I disagree. It's childish, but it does work with a certain type of mind.

[el_bryanto]

3. Yes idiotic haters really respond to idiotic hating n/t

[Lex]

12. Did they get their fweelings hurt? nt

[el_bryanto]

15. Idiotic haters? I doubt it. They know the key response to any stimuli. Idiotic hating! n/t

[datasuspect]

13. so is okay to characterize a coward as a pussy?

[PDJane]

22. I didn't say it was OK. I said it works with a certain type of mind.

[el_bryanto]

23. Yes - the idiot type of mind. n/t

[PDJane]

38. That was implied, yes.

[ZombieHorde]

58. It may work well against some children,

but I think gun sales show that it doesn't really work very well against adults.

[PDJane]

66. *shrug* depends on the adult. There are a lot of cases of arrested development out there.

I'm not saying it's right or good or even polite, just that it works on a certain portion of the population.

[Capt. Obvious]

2. I've called my congressman about this

But I demand the right to make fun of the small genitalia of big truck drivers.

Fuck them.

[doc03]

4. Guys that drive big 4 wheelers and like guns sure take a beating here

don't they.

[Turbineguy]

5. Maybe we should try this:

"Hey buddy, show me your schwantz!" (man unzips pants) "Wow, look at the size of that thing! You're hung like a horse! You must be very popular!" ---- "You're not? Well, maybe carrying around that assault rifle gives people the wrong idea about you!"

[Last Stand]

62. Or maybe we should all accuse Adam Lanza's mother of having small breasts.

She bought all the guns didn't she?

[southernyankeebelle]

6. Come on folks leave the penis out of this.

[The Straight Story]

7. The US has the largest military, so we all have little dicks and small tits

[snooper2]

9. Not really, studies have been done so we have the data

[The Straight Story]

10. Huh. Mine sounds bigger if I use centimeters.

Will just the number in bar and not specify unit of measurement for my unit

[doc03]

17. India sure got short changed didn't they and what is the deal with

California? Are these measurements based on a ruler or what people say they have? Could all the porn stars in the LA area bring up their average?

[dawg]

31. I'm pretty sure that chart declares me to be a "Mulatto".

Just judging by the map, that is.

[smirkymonkey]

57. Very Interesting.

Now I know where to travel.

[aikoaiko]

8. Its actually accomplishing allowing additional gender related hate on DU

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1240199574

In this thread the OP wonders why a homophobic comment was allowed to stand in a thread about gun owners' penises.

[RevStPatrick]

11. Of course it accomplishes nothing...

...but it's fun!!!

C'mon, get with it.
We're a species of 9 year-olds.

[Buzz Clik]

14. I agree with the OP. Those who insult gun owners need to grow a pair.

I hope this was helpful.

[closeupready]

16. Personally, I think doing so is misogynistic, since

the value of doing so in terms of belittling or ridiculing gun owners hinges upon an audience's misogyny.

[seabeyond]

24. actually, there may be a point i didnt get in you other Op. since it is about

in essence talking dickless, sorry guys, didnt know how else to say it. but referring to the feminizing of the men, in the oddest, most convoluted manner.

i am just tired of it being almost exclusively men discussing and using this and pulling women into it going after their anatomy as some sense of balance when women are not a part of it. so men get to go after each other, and free reign to go after women, also.... a fuckin gain.

[closeupready]

26. I'm not sure I understand. My point there was,

culturally, dick size directly correlates with, for want of a better term, heroic masculinity. And it was kind of a free-form discussion, open to anyone who wanted to have a real discussion. You are certainly the latter, so I take no offense.

[dawg]

28. While it is mostly men who bring this stuff up, some women do it too.

There are a few women out there who are obsessed with penis size, and many more who see it as a convenient bludgeon to get revenge on men for all the unfairness and mistreatment that women have endured through the years.

But two wrongs don't make a right.

Mostly, I object to the attitude that having a small penis is a horrible, horrible thing and one of the ultimate ways of insulting a man. I think this "size is everything" attitude is very harmful to some, mostly younger, men. As the father of boys, I wish we could get away from this sort of thing.

[seabeyond]

32. geez dawg, hated hated hated those enhancing commercials on the history channel my kids were watchin

when they were 8 and 10 yrs old. we even had to have a fuckin conversation about that and how they are just trying to make money and we are all uniquely perfect and do NOT listen to what these commercials are being said.

do we really want our boys to start learning at that young age they are inadaquit and all they need to do is take a pill and some beautiful woman will fuck you in an elevator... TOO.

[dawg]

34. I'm right there with you. It's all very silly.

But I think using "small-penis" as an insult just reinforces some young men's anxieties about this sort of thing. Heck, it isn't just the young men. It was the old dudes who were buying up all those "enhancement" products. I personally know a guy (NOT ME!!) who bought one of those penis pumps to try and increase his size. This is madness, and I want young men to grow up knowing and understanding that if they are anywhere near normal that is is a non-issue.

But the point I was trying to make is that it isn't *only* men who bring this up. It's mostly men, but some women love to bring this up too.

[seabeyond]

37. agreed. the thing

we think of all kinds of denigrating language for a woman. and we hear it often here on du. the only real insult for a man, denigration for a man is the dig at his size, unless we use sexist language accusing him of being a woman which is ultimately a denigration to a woman.

that is a tough one, i know.

so when i hear men using sexist language toward women, with the sole purpose of putting me and women in our place, then told to lighten up, or suck it up, cause it is their right to denigrate me, i want to go to that. that is the only thing that is equal to what so many do to women on du, the net, the streets, everywhere.

i cant do it. cause it is just mean.

but, i want to.

[dawg]

39. I think it's natural to want to strike back in this manner.

But ultimately, it's pointless and self-defeating.

[dawg]

35. Elevator?

Yuck.

Those floors are nasty!

[Enrique]

18. it actually helps the NRA

i have made the point a number of times because it is so obvious recently: a main strategy of the NRA is to keep the discussion as moronic as possible, because a rational discussion will lead to gun control. I can picture the NRA people reading the "small penis" stuff and high-fiving each other.

[Sunlei]

19. Something a barbarian type gunman understands right away :)

I don't think there is an 'anti-gun' side. We all want our right to own weapons.

Do not see a need or a 'right' for armor piercing bullets, bullets that chop children into pieces or weapons able to kill 30 people in 60 seconds.

[rrneck]

20. Preaching to the choir is a time honored tradition among social dominators. nt

[L0oniX]

21. Does insulting someone do anything good?

If you think it does then you are a stupid mother fucking idiot moron dumb shit immature childish meat head ass licking coward with a small dick!

[ehrenfeucht games]

25. So how was a gun manufacturer able to get away with it and still sell their AR-15 Bushmasters?

[Johonny]

30. sorry we have to completely ignore reality and pretend there is a real issue here

male gun owners are the most oppressed people in American society. Any attempt at humor is a disgrace to this proud and oppressed people.

The whole thread reminds me of Bill Cosby's bullet in the furnace bit.

teacher "Guy's mom has to be pretty low to put a bullet in the furnace."

student "I didn't put a bullet in the furnace and stop talking about my mom!"

[Kaleva]

33. Ex-wife once put live ammo in the paper garbage that was to be burned in the burn barrel

That was the most exciting time I ever had burning the garbage.

[Democracyinkind]

67. AR-15 sales = result of biggest fraudulent PR campaign in guny history...

First they defrauded the AF and Army, then, for good measure, they fleeced the American populace...

It took a couple of bottles of Jack, a Weekend on a ranch and some Bang Bang with Curtis the great - and it worked. But don't talk about the corpses they shot, for good fun - they're still quite embarrassed about that, buy hey, those were the days, weren't they? And to think that they're still ongoing. This is truly the greatest fucking country in the world.

If this sounds too cryptic to the reader; study the history of the AR-15. It is an essential all-American story. More so even than the history of the F-15. Corporate America at its most blatant. I'd be in the right mind to flush the whole PR "industry" down the same drain as the corporate state, the military-inudstrial complex and all that once we get to it...

[Democracyinkind]

27. Am I the only one who is intruiged by the use of "insulting the genitalia" in the OP`?

Is it really the genitals that are insulted? Are genitala easily offended? I'll ask around...

[dawg]

29. Mine wears its heart on its sleeve and is very thin-skinned.

So if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all.

[Hugabear]

36. I agree, especially when we can go after their intelligence instead

Much more effective and rational.

[dawg]

41. Or the fact that ...

they are apparently scared of their own shadows. (Hunters and target enthusiasts excluded

[bongbong]

40. I agree!

The comparison is entirely inappropriate.

A much better tool would be to check the level of gut-wrenching fear of the outside world that the Delicate Flowers have filling their heads, and why they think owning a Precious will salve that fear.

[spin]

63. Well at least your insult was original ...

and if I failed to compliment you on it, I will do so now.

Of course what you fail to realize is that often delicate flower plants have thorns. Why is this?

Why Do Flowers Have Thorns?
By Barbara Bryant, eHow Contributor

Protection
An article in the journal "Ecology" indicates that plants grow sharp thorns to protect them from being eaten by herbivores (plant-eating animals). Researchers cited as proof that keeping a type of thorned shrub from animal predators for several generations reduced thorn growth from one generation to the next. The plants with fewer thorns produced more seeds, an indication that thorned plants divert energy they would have used for reproduction to protect themselves.

***snip***

Animal Behavior
Researchers exposed plants with thorns and those from which the thorns were removed to goats and giraffes. Both animals foraged more heavily on the thornless group. Branches the giraffes could reach grew more and longer thorns than those they couldn't.

Read more: Why Do Flowers Have Thorns? | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/facts_5729867_do-flowers-thorns_.html#ixzz2H89UwKL8

So perhaps I am indeed a delicate flower. I have adapted to the fact that there are animals in our society who would love the opportunity to prey on me. My sharp thorns are the bullets in my handgun or the rounds in my shotgun.

However some flower plants do not have thorns. Their species never seen the need to adapt to the environment in this fashion. Unfortunately as pointed out in the article above, goats enjoyed eating them far more than plants with thorns.

So perhaps I am a rose and you are a tulip.

[Remmah2]

42. The anti-gun people are obviously peeking at the urinals.

[Dems to Win]

44. Agree 100%. I try to stay on topic, even in contentious discussions. Genitalia size has never

been on-topic in any discussion I've participated in.

There are plenty of good, rational reasons for strong gun control. We need to focus on repeating them loud and often.

No weenie talk needed or welcome.

[Scuba]

45. Derision can be a very effective tool to effect change. If you want things to remain as they are ..

... then by all means try to quash any kind of discussion that makes people think.

[ButterflyBlood]

46. You think accusing gun owners of having small penises "makes people think"?

And it'll result in change? Playground name calling is going to make people quit buying guns?

[Scuba]

47. Derision works. Proven in countless studies.

[guardian]

48. Really?

So pro-gun people can start talking about how the anti-gunners have 'droopy vaginas" or 'tiny breasts' as a effective argument? Good to know.

[Scuba]

50. Just look at Hummer sales.

[Dreamer Tatum]

51. Hummer doesn't exist anymore, and you cited COUNTLESS studies

So link to a few.

(Don't worry, I know you can't. I'm just going to humiliate you for a while.)

[dairydog91]

55. Just look at gas prices.

[Scuba]

59. There's plenty of F350's tearing up and down the roads here.

[ButterflyBlood]

65. Let's see, a vehicle that gets 8-9 miles to the gallon...

No I just can't think of anything that happened that would cause the market for THAT to crash. Nope had to be the childish mocking of people who bought them, that's the only possibility.

[Generic Brad]

53. It's not the size of the gun that counts

It's all about how the gun is used.

Yeah. No genital implications there.

[tblue]

54. Since when did they ever give a damn what we say?

So they are the victims now? Of our words?! For crying out loud! They're 'feelings,' and lack thereof, are what got us in this endless mess. I'm sorry, if they have a 'right' to semiautomatic weapons and large magazines, we are not giving up our right to free speech.

[jpak]

56. Gun nuts have inadequacy issues - regardless of pee pee size

Their pee pees are always too small

This is well known.

yup

[sir pball]

60. Honestly, it kind of makes me want to..

..post a pic; I'm completely sure that, while I may not be in the 1%, I'm entirely adequate. Never gotten into a measuring contest, nor even taken a ruler to it in private, but I've never had a complaint (I'll disregard positive comments; you never know if she's just fluffing the ego). If I had my handgun I might even include it, it's not a compact by any means and my barrel is a good bit longer than its. Sure, it would probably be an instant pizza, but it would be worth it

[ZombieHorde]

61. I agree. It's falacious argumentation, immature, and sexist.

I happen to enjoy immaturity, but I don't like fallacious argumentation or sexism.

[spin]

64. I am a gun owner but I have a thick skin. ...

If someone wishes to insult me merely because I own firearms it really doesn't bother me.

However I do find tired old insults like saying that I must using firearms to compensate for penile inadequacy somewhat boring after reading this thousands of times. Those who choose to insult gun owners should at least try to be somewhat original in my opinion.

Out of curiosity I googled to see if any reliable surveys have ever been conducted on male gun owners and their penis size. I did find one interesting and hilarious article on a survey of males with loud mufflers and their measurements. It's worth reading.

Study Links Loud Mufflers to Penile Inadequacy
By Joseph Lost
Jun 15, 2009, 02:34
http://www.glossynews.com/artman/publish/study-links-loud-mufflers-penile-1796.shtml

[cherokeeprogressive]

68. It is the last bastion of one who has no substantive argument.

Its roots can be found on every playground in the world.

[Lizzie Poppet]

69. It accomplishes precisely what it's intended to accomplish.

It makes the halfwits who indulge in it feel better and starts a lot of flame wars.

My personal response to the usual "tiny penis" blurts? "Why, yes, I have a very tiny penis indeed. It's called a "clitoris." Perhaps you've heard of them."