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Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 03:18 PM Jan 2013

In the Coal Fields, a Novel Way to Get Rid of Pensions Is Born

http://truth-out.org/news/item/13691-in-the-coal-fields-a-novel-way-to-get-rid-of-pensions-is-born

Morgantown, West Virginia - If you are an individual struggling with debt, your options are limited. But if you are a coal company, you may be able to take advantage of a creative new strategy to shed your obligations.

Over the past decade, Peabody Energy and Arch Coal, the nation's largest coal companies, offloaded large amounts of retiree healthcare obligations to new companies that now face bankruptcy. The United Mine Workers of America (UMWA) says that the spin-offs were designed to fail in order to clean the companies' books of their retiree debts.

In 2007, Peabody Energy spun off a new company, Patriot Coal, which inherited 10 unionized mines in Kentucky and West Virginia. Along with the mines, Patriot took on $557 million in healthcare obligations to UMWA retirees. In 2008, Patriot bought Magnum, which had been similarly spun off from Arch Coal three years earlier. From Magnum, Patriot inherited another $500 million in obligations to retired miners, according to the UMWA.

Oddly, for a 5-year-old company, Patriot wound up with nearly three times as many retirees as active employees, more than 90 percent of whom never worked for the company. Overburdened by its debts, in July of 2012 Patriot declared bankruptcy.

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In the Coal Fields, a Novel Way to Get Rid of Pensions Is Born (Original Post) Coyotl Jan 2013 OP
Doesn't surprise me in the least MountainLaurel Jan 2013 #1
fucking rat bastards.... mike_c Jan 2013 #2
and single payer health care reteachinwi Jan 2013 #16
HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Jan 2013 #3
Life in prison for them all Angry Dragon Jan 2013 #4
Now we are talking. This is "criminal" conduct, defrauding people. Coyotl Jan 2013 #18
DURec leftstreet Jan 2013 #5
Companies are just doing anything they can to get out from under things they promised employees liberal N proud Jan 2013 #6
Sen. Warren, pickup on Line One KamaAina Jan 2013 #7
Why can't San Jose do that? KamaAina Jan 2013 #8
They HAD to do it bongbong Jan 2013 #9
Despicable. Scuba Jan 2013 #10
CEO's of such buisnesses that do these type of things to people RedstDem Jan 2013 #11
We need a Democratic Congress and we need to get them to do something about this problem. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #12
This is the Republican plan for us Pakid Jan 2013 #13
This just makes me so angry....... a kennedy Jan 2013 #14
No need to nineteen50 Jan 2013 #15
More examples of Bankruptcies of Convenience. They're following the airline model of bankruptcies cpamomfromtexas Jan 2013 #17
Perhaps they, quakerboy Jan 2013 #19
That should be the law of the land, secured pensions. Coyotl Jan 2013 #23
Sadly, this has been going on for years. SheilaT Jan 2013 #20
This is SOP for vulture capitalists and corporate raiders. I know of people who were employed japple Jan 2013 #21
I dreamt I saw.... marble falls Jan 2013 #22
Our government ALLOWS this to happen. 99Forever Jan 2013 #24
k/r* Redfairen Jan 2013 #25
Mister Peabody's coal train has hauled it away bvar22 Jan 2013 #26

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
2. fucking rat bastards....
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 03:30 PM
Jan 2013

THIS is why we need strong regulation of corporations. VERY strong regulation.

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
6. Companies are just doing anything they can to get out from under things they promised employees
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 03:48 PM
Jan 2013

Pensions are a thing of the past even for those who have worked 40 years banking on getting one when they retire.



 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
8. Why can't San Jose do that?
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 03:53 PM
Jan 2013

We've got filthy 47%er bloodsucking pensioned union retirees, too. Why can't Mayor Reed just declare that they actually worked for the City of Reedville, then annex it back into San Jose? Problem solved!

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
9. They HAD to do it
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 04:02 PM
Jan 2013

After all, other people at the club were laughing at the coal company executives because they only had 3 yachts.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
12. We need a Democratic Congress and we need to get them to do something about this problem.
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 04:58 PM
Jan 2013

ERISA is a joke in this respect.

cpamomfromtexas

(1,245 posts)
17. More examples of Bankruptcies of Convenience. They're following the airline model of bankruptcies
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 05:20 PM
Jan 2013

If this congress does anything it should start by outlawing these types of bankruptcies.

quakerboy

(13,920 posts)
19. Perhaps they,
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 05:24 PM
Jan 2013

Like the USPS, should be forced to immediately pre fund all retirement benefits for workers.

japple

(9,825 posts)
21. This is SOP for vulture capitalists and corporate raiders. I know of people who were employed
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 05:38 PM
Jan 2013

by textile mills in the Southeast in the 1970s and 1980s who lost their pensions when the industry went through a recession. People who had worked for 30 and 40 years for a company lost their pensions. I knew one man who had to go back to work when he was between 65 and 70 yrs. old. He and his wife were trying to help out their children and grandchildren, but with the pension gone, he couldn't make it on Social Security alone.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
24. Our government ALLOWS this to happen.
Fri Jan 4, 2013, 07:37 PM
Jan 2013

Yes, these corporate assholes deserve to be locked up permanently. IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, instead all of the execs will walk away scot-free and rich as fuck.

But the fact that our FEDERAL DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE does absolutely nothing to stop it should piss you off even more.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
26. Mister Peabody's coal train has hauled it away
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 02:11 PM
Jan 2013
Paradise
aka Mr. Peabody's Coal Train
written & recorded by John Prine


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