2nd Amendment Poll

[darkangel218]

Last edited Thu Jan 10, 2013, 10:31 PM - Edit history (1)

This poll is not about wether you are for gun control or not, but rather if you support or are against the Second Amendment.


"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed"

90 votes, 5 passes | Time left: Unlimited
	I support the 2nd Amendment.
	66 (73%)
	I am against the 2nd Amendment.
	24 (27%)
	5 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided.
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[Fresh_Start]

1. I support gun control and the 2nd amendment

strangely I didn't see that option on your survey

[AndyA]

3. Same here. n/t

[klook]

5. +26 (n/t)

[darkangel218]

6. Gun control is being discussed plenty.

Let's see who are actually pro or against the right to bear arms.

[MNBrewer]

25. What do you mean "the right to bear arms"?

[orpupilofnature57]

158. None of the Men at the Continental Congress thought

about George Zimmerman, they were thinking about King George .

[redstatebluegirl]

7. Agreed

It is unrealistic to imagine we can outlaw all guns in the US. Hunters, farmers and ranchers need to be considered.

[Fresh_Start]

9. also police officers and the like

I think that the risks of the job follow them into their personal lives

[redstatebluegirl]

31. Plus the number of people helped by an off duty police office is very high.

[Old and In the Way]

20. Count me in on your point.

This isn't an either/or issue, as much as certain people on both sides want to frame it as such.

[Hoyt]

36. Definitely should have been an option.

[mokawanis]

37. I agree

Imposing gun controls doesn't mean doing away with the 2nd amendment.

[Ed Suspicious]

57. I'm right with you. N/T

[MindandSoul]

64. Exactly!

I also support much stronger gun control, but do not want to take ALL guns away.

I also do not like the "interpretation" of the second amendment that leads the gun fanatics to believe they have every right to own any guns (and as many) as they want, and that this will just evolve to include ANY form of even deadlier firearms in the future.

Even the way the poll was worded is not quite conductive to fair answers.

For example, it doesn't quote the WHOLE second amendment, "forgetting" to include the QUALIFYING part of the wording which stats:

"A WELL REGULATED MILITIA, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

Where is the "well regulated militia" part in that rush for any individual to own any type and any number of guns. . .to do with it as they please?

[Jamastiene]

167. I voted Pass for that very reason.

Asking for reasonable gun control laws is not against the 2nd Amendment.

[Motown_Johnny]

2. I support well regulated militias that are necessary for the security of a free state

so does that mean I support the 2nd amendment or not?


I think it means that I am for it but many others will disagree with me.

[joeybee12]

4. I agree...I support the founders' intent, but now it's a relic

of colonial times and should be treated as such.

[ReReadConstitution]

118. No, Of Enlightenment Times..

.. and Enlightened individuals. And we never had a colony.
Should we change the 1st Ammendment, 4th, 6th - also?
This country is the living proof of the freedom, liberty, prosperity which is unrivaled in the world.
There is no argument against it.
Think for yourself. Wake up.

[pkdu]

132. So what limits do YOU agree to " right to bear arms"....

Calibre
Rate of fire
Technology ( laser , emp , latest and newet ever year,...etc)

[nadinbrzezinski]

134. You know of the Third Ammendment?

It's obsolete, isn't it? Or are you afraid of having to quarter troops?

You want an assault riffle? Join the guard. That is consistent with the actual intent based on the writings f the times.

[joeybee12]

155. Wow, such stupidty with only 2 posts...

Wow, the scary thing is you think you're making sense...we WERE a colony, idiot...adios.

[samsingh]

147. yes

[FourScore]

93. Exactly! n/t

[Warren Stupidity]

10. which 2A, the one before 2008 or the current one?

[darkangel218]

11. The current one. nt

[Scuba]

12. I'm in favor of private ownership of firearms, with limitations. Where's that put me?

2A proponents will argue that they can have nukes, cruise missiles and Apache helicopters, cause the 2A sez so!!!

I disagree.

[bossy22]

14. I don't really see anyone arguing that

none of those are good for self defense

there is a lot of room in between "nobody needs cruise missles" and pushing a ban on semi-auto long guns.

In fact- cruise missles are considered ordinance, not "arms".

I think most americans would have problems with private citizens having their own ICBMS. I don't think most americans would have a problem with someone owning this for home defense:
http://www.remington.com/~/media/Images/Firearms/Shotguns/Model-870/Model-870-Express-Tactical/870-Express-Tactical-81198-prod.ashx

[Scuba]

16. Then you didn't see the interview with the guy sponsoring the 'gun appreciation day'.

on edit, here's the link: http://www.democraticunderground.com/101791264

[bossy22]

17. to be honest I did not.

If he is saying that than i completely disagree with him. I know the majority of "gunnies" don't feel that way. We are aware there are limits and THERE SHOULD BE.

[Scuba]

18. Here's the link ...

I'm also a gun owner, and no, I don't feel that way. Nor do most gun owners.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/101791264

[samsingh]

22. in the smart category

[hack89]

23. I don't think so

most people understand the definition of "arms". Not playing with straw again, are you?

[doc03]

13. I support the 2nd Amendment but I feel the

2nd Amendment has it's limits the same as the 1st Amendment does.

[arely staircase]

15. i support all of the bill of rights as well as reasonable restrictions on them

laws against child porn, slander, fighting words, bribery, extortion are all restrictions on the 1st amendment right to free speech, and they are reasonable ones. just as limiting magazine capacity and closing the gun show loophole are reasonable restrictions on the 2nd amendment.

[99Forever]

19. Which 2nd Amend?

The actual real Second Amendment as written it the Constitution, in it's entirety, or the NRA modified one?

[samsingh]

21. the question is not honest the way it is phrased

the intent and meaning of the 2nd amendment is different than that espouced by the NRA and many current progun people.

[GoneOffShore]

24. You got it.

It's like a push poll.

[Myrina]

32. +100

Thank you.

[samsingh]

148. thanks

[MindandSoul]

67. I totally agree! Even the wording of this question avoids the REAL issue!

[samsingh]

149. it's one of the many plows the nra teaches

[-..__...]

26. Needs to be rewritten to...

"The right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed".

Does away with any confusion, misconceptions and foolish statements like "the 2nd is an anachronism and has no relevance in a "civilized" society"... "firearms ownership should be limited to what the Founding Fathers intended, and was in use at the time"... "want to own an "assault rifle"? Join the militia"...
etc, etc, ad nauseum.

After that... let the courts decide the limits of "shall not be infringed".

[darkangel218]

27. I will correct it to that. Thats is what i meant. Thanks.

[samsingh]

146. good luck getting that through. people are much smarter now

[darkangel218]

28. Thus far majority has spoken :D

We may be not so loud, but we are here. And so is our right to bear arms!

[Hell Hath No Fury]

29. That's not the Second Amendment.

But you knew that.

[Chisox08]

30. You forgot the whole well regulated militia part

[baldguy]

42. They always do.

[veganlush]

33. It's childish and stupid

there have always been plenty of infringements, so "shall not be infringed" are just words. The second amendment is meaningless in the modern world. "well regulated militia" was not put in there just to use up extra ink from the inkwell either, it meant something at one time. As for arms, nuclear arms are arms and would be included if the modern interpretation wasn't so farcical. As for bearing arms uninfringedly, that's another joke. There are plenty of places where no one would want this to apply. There are plenty of places where bearing arms has long been "infringed". Would gun lovers like hannity ever go up onstage in front of an armed crowd? never. The Second Amendment doesn't apply in the modern world, period, this is not an opinion this is fact. The world is round, not flat. Adam and Eve is just a story. Same with Noah's ark. Evolution and climate change are real. The second amendment is fake outside of it's original context, period.

[darkangel218]

34. Keep dreaming! nt

[Zoeisright]

71. Hopefully we'll wake up from the nightmare

you gun humpers have forced upon the rest of us. For now, I'm glad I'll never have to see your posts again.

[darkangel218]

79. Good ridance. nt

[-..__...]

38. Now... there's a fresh perspective!

Never in a million years would anyone have seen that coming.

[Upton]

35. Interesting results..

what with all the "repeal the 2nd Amendment" and "ban all guns" threads we've seen, one might think the results would be the opposite.

[99Forever]

40. Maybe if the Delicate Flower were to post ...

... the actual Second Amendment, it might mean something.

As it is, it's just another steaming NRA pile of excrement.

[hunter]

56. Revolutions are won by ideas, not guns.

Guns just make revolutions bloody.

[jmg257]

58. Pssst...you don't have firearms to start a revolution now either. In

THIS country, that's called "treason".

[darkangel218]

59. I didnt say start a revolution here. I was only telling what i went through.

You're so good at spinning everything.

[jmg257]

61. Spinning?? "they didn't have firearms to start a revolution...". Again, neither do you.

Not much spinning, simple truth.

[darkangel218]

63. Whatever we have, its better than nothing, in the case of a dictator taking over.

You obviously haven't been in my shoes or know much about the rest of the world. If you did, you'd apreaciate what we have.

[jmg257]

76. Which dictator will that be? Anybody special we need to train our sites on?

I very much appreciate what we have. And want my kids to live long lives so they can appreciate it too. Right now I am much more worried about the realities of crazed armed gunmen then I am about some mythical dictator.

Edit: ipad

[darkangel218]

78. Do you think East Europe ever dreamed of what happened to them?

You should go google. Anything is possible. We need to KEEP our rights.

[jmg257]

84. Let's get the guns under control, and we can keep all the rights we want!

The people decided a long time ago that they were more concerned about the security of the country then they were about being opressed by government of tyranny.

There are other ways to defer tyrants.

[darkangel218]

86. Like i said, im all for sensible gun control. nt

[jmg257]

87. Cheers! nt

[99Forever]

74. Oh please.

You seriously are going to try and sell me the BULLSHIT that ANY personally held arsenal could stand up to the military of the USA?

That of all the stupid, idiotic crap the NRA tries to peddle, is, by far, the dumbest of all of them.

[-..__...]

41. Paid NRA "gun trolls" are skewing the results.

I'm also told they frequently do the same thing with alerts/jury decisions.

[Paladin]

43. You Can Support The 2nd Amendment, But Hate How Fat Tony Scalia Has Interpreted It... (nt)

[etherealtruth]

44. I am opposed to the current interpretation of the 2nd amendment

[MindandSoul]

68. Thank you! This is also my stand on this issue.

[Spider Jerusalem]

46. "A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a Free State"

it's a bit disingenous to leave that part out.

[bongbong]

48. The 2nd Amendment?

You normally don't post anything about state militias. Only about Precious. So why are you polling DU about their support for well-regulated militias all of a sudden?

[Puha Ekapi]

111. +1

For much of American history, the relationship of my people with the U.S. Government has been one of dictator/subject. In some respects it still is, even though things have improved to a degree. Disarm? Not a chance.

[RandiFan1290]

50. Y'all Postin In A Thread!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022104861#post1

[darkangel218]

51. Go away.

[Zoeisright]

73. Can't take it, huh?

Why don't you go and embrace your precious and leave humanity alone?

[darkangel218]

83. You just said youll ignore me.

Lol. Just do it.

[jmg257]

121. Wow...u post all this crap about gun rights, but said this??? SCAM ALERT!

"Do I want to give up my privacy rights? Hell no! But that't the prize (sic) we have to pay to be safe"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022104861#post8

[PETRUS]

165. Huh.

Over the years, I've gotten to know a few dozen people who grew up in the Eastern Bloc, some are current friends. All of them are strongly opposed to domestic surveillance, noting the difficulty of establishing trust and building solidarity under such a regime. Not one of them is preoccupied with RKBA.

The improbability of the OP's position aside, I think this is something Americans who are truly concerned with "freedom" should consider.

[orpupilofnature57]

52. I support the 2nd Amendment and oppose the NRA .

[patrice]

54. Qualified support here, so I chose not to answer your poll.

[jmg257]

55. Forgot a bit there, but certainly I support securing well regulated Militias.

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Not exactly the most effective fighting force, but they do come in handy for reserves, establishing justice and ensuring tranquility, etc.

Any rate, definitely support the right of the people to arm themselves for that purpose, according to guidelines provided by Congress. Too bad the need has been obsoleted.

[FourScore]

92. GOOD ANSWER!!!! n/t

[Demo_Chris]

60. Wow, interesting results. Thanks for posting this.

[1-Old-Man]

62. I support all of our rights as listed in the Bill of Rights, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and the rest as well

I would no more take away the right to bear arms than I would allow the Government to dispose of freedom of religion, the press, or free speech.

[derby378]

65. Since there's so much debate over the OP, let me try something...

I own an AK-74 (not the AK-47 - larger caliber) with 30-round magazines.

If you're of a mind to leave me alone unless I do something criminal or insane, I'd say that you support my 2A rights.

If, on the other hand, you'd like to see my gun and magazines confiscated, or at least require me to get an NFA permit to own said items, I would say that you do not.

Does that help?

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

66. I support the 2nd amendment in the context of People having the means/rights to

to protect the life/liberty of themselves and families. AKA, self defense.

[bowens43]

69. your poll questions are bogus

they should be

'Do you support the bastardized version of the 2nd Amendment touted by the NRA, the gun nuts and death mongers?'

'Do you support the 2nd Amendment as it is in the Constitution, protecting the right to gun ownership only within the construct of a well regulated militia as intended by the founding fathers?'

[darkangel218]

72. I hope youre never in the position to need it.

Good luck.

[Zoeisright]

70. That is an incorrect statement.

You forgot the "well regulated militia" part, which is critical to the understanding of the amendment. I do NOT support it as you have written it, for that was NOT the intent. And it's stupid and short sighted.

[darkangel218]

75. Everyone knows the second amedment.

Do you want me to write it in its entirety? I would assume if someone is a member of DU they would know the Bill of Rights.

[RandiFan1290]

80. Do you know the Fourth Amendment?

[orpupilofnature57]

156. Yes and the "Patriot Act " vaporized it .Thanks again Shrub.

[RandiFan1290]

163. Yep just pointing out that the OP is an obvious troll

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022104861#post1

Gotta read quickly. You can see up thread that they like to erase their bullshit as fast as they can

[orpupilofnature57]

164. Good eye !!!

[jmg257]

77. Only 30000

[Skip Intro]

82. I am shocked by these results. Guess noise doesn't equal numbers. nt

[darkangel218]

85. Nope, noise indeed doesnt equal numbers.

[elleng]

88. I support the 2nd Amendment as I think the Founders intended it,

and NOT as the Supreme Court has interpreted it.

[Lizzie Poppet]

115. Me, too.

And the SCOTUS got it just right...

[defacto7]

89. This is a totally ambiguous and illogical question as stated.

Post the whole 2nd amendment and maybe there can be a reasoned response. As the OP is stated, it can't be answered.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

90. This is a horseshit thread even by gungeon standards.

[FourScore]

91. since you cherry-picked the portion of the 2nd Amendment

as if that was all it was about...


This is the stupidest DU poll I've ever seen!

[darkangel218]

94. No, it isnt cherry picked. I could say the same about the anti gun mob

But I won't.

The poll is pretty straight forward. For or against our constitutional right to carry and bear arms.

[FourScore]

98. You might want to do some research on the 2nd Amendment.

Here's a good place to start.

Former Chief Justice Warren Burger states:

"The Gun Lobby's interpretation of the Second Amendment is one of the greatest pieces of fraud, I repeat the word fraud, on the American People by special interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime. The real purpose of the Second Amendment was to ensure that state armies - the militia - would be maintained for the defense of the state. The very language of the Second Amendment refutes any argument that it was intended to guarantee every citizen an unfettered right to any kind of weapon he or she desires."

[iiibbb]

127. right

nothing more significant than hunting rifles, or what a patrol officer carries for defense.

[TheProgressive]

95. I voted 'pass'

You did not quote the 2nd Amendment in its entirety and
that is a big problem.

One poll option I would prefer is:

"I support the 2nd Amendment if it is interpreted as the founders wanted'.

To me this means, 'You have to be a member of a well regulated State Militia to keep and bear arms'.


Amendment II
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

[darkangel218]

96. I.assumed everyone knows it.

If its such a big deal ill rephrase.

[pipoman]

113. If that is what the founders wanted, why didn't they write it that way?

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the milita to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Seems much less ambiguous.

No, they meant what they wrote, "the people".

[TheProgressive]

117. As usual, the Founders used the correct phraseology...

Only 'people' can 'keep and bear' arms - a militia cannot. People make up a militia.

And most importantly, the 2nd Amendment is a 'legal conditional statement'...meaning
that both components must be true. First, a well regulated State militia is permitted, and
two, people who belong to the State militia can keep and bear arms.

[pipoman]

125. Seems this horse has already left the gate

even the President says he doesn't believe this. The founders knew that all of the people's guns were used in the revolution. They meant the people, just as they wrote it, at any time, any of "the people" can join the militia. If a gun owner isn't able, someone who is able and doesn't have a gun can use theirs. Further, they didn't require non-militia to turn in their guns in their own time...if their intent was to only allow militia to have guns, why didn't they do this? But congrats, you're the first to even attempt to answer that question..

[TheProgressive]

128. The President said that too? Really? Show me the link please....!

[pipoman]

131. ..

"I think there is an individual right to bear arms, but it's subject to commonsense regulation."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_social_policy

[TheProgressive]

135. Two things

1. Wikepedia is not *ever* credible

and

2. The quote (true or not true) does not support the statement the poster claimed..

[pipoman]

136. Yes, it is an accurate quote

and it absolutely supports an "individual right" as opposed to a collective right, which is the laid-to-rest argument that gun ownership is reserved for the militia.

"Obama agrees to an individual's right to bear arms, in principle, but does not take it as an absolute right and considers it as a negotiable subject."

http://2012.presidential-candidates.org/Obama/Gun-Control.php

[TheProgressive]

137. But please remember...

...independent of Obama's real or made up quotes, the 2nd Amendment is
a conditional compound statement with both conditions are to be true.

To paraphrase what another poster said trying to defend the 2nd amendment and the individual
right to keep and bear arms --> "if the Founders meant that people have the right to keep and bear arms', that
would all the 2nd amendment would have to say. But, no. It *requires* a well regulated militia.

Compare:

Amendment II (as written by our Founders)

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.



And Not

Amendment II (as how the NRA thinks it reads)

"People have the right to keep and bear arms".

[pipoman]

138. And I simply have never seen any

quotations in the federalist papers, nor the anti-federalist papers which supports such a thing. Frankly, I believe the founders believed the people should be allowed arms equivalent to those of a military..the state. Not all munitions but arms..indiscriminate weapons excluded..

[TheProgressive]

139. You can *think* what you want however

when it comes to the Constitution, it is what our Founders wanted.

It seems you arguments have disintegrated.

And I think we all will benefit from a gun safer America...

[pipoman]

141. What I think

is based on my reading of the founders thoughts..anyone can do it...many areas of the constitution are better understood by reading these and these

[TheProgressive]

142. It must be difficult for you...

to finally learn what the 2nd Amendment is really all about. Hang in there - ok?

I think DU should have a thread on 'what we think should be done to make America gun safer'?

[pipoman]

152. I started one such thread a few weeks ago..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022063309

I've understood for a very long time, and it isn't "But, no. It *requires* a well regulated militia." Please direct me to any SCOTUS decision or even any passage in the Federalist or Anti Federalist papers which says anything even close to this complete fabrication.

[Ter]

144. "The right of the people" part is where I take it to mean personal rights to own

IMO, if they just meant the state militias, then adding that part wouldn't be necessary.

[TheProgressive]

145. Then, why did they put in the 'militia' part at all?

Ter, if the Founders meant just the people, why did they just write the 2nd as
'it is the right of the people to keep and bear arms'. But they did not...

Here is what they codified:

Amendment II

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

97. I'd bet a lot of $ all of the "in favors" have been a member of POF as of today nt

[Buzz Clik]

100. What's POF?

[Buzz Clik]

99. I support the 2nd amendment, but the gun freaks have it all wrong.

I have no support for their concept that every individual has the right to possess any weapon desired.

[NeedleCast]

101. I support the 2nd Amendment

but your question is poorly stated, as are the options on your poll.

[DainBramaged]

104. Is this a well-regulated melitia?

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed"

[darkangel218]

105. You already votted against. nt

[DainBramaged]

106. SO what's your point? U mad Bro??

[darkangel218]

107. Haha! How funny

Not.
Like I would care what your stance is on this poll. I already knew.

And BTW, I'm a female, "bro".

C ya!

[DainBramaged]

108. SO you still mad bro?

Why do you give a shit what my opinion is in the poll? You marking those of us who voted against the 2nd Amendment? I tend to not believe you are who you say you are BRO.

[darkangel218]

109. I dont care what your opinion is. You asked questions after already votting.

That was my point.

Keep posting your cartoons, Mr Dain lol.

[DainBramaged]

110. I made a point bro

The 2nd is bullshit and doesn't apply in the 21st century. It's like an amendment requiring men to wear white wigs to work.....



Have a nice evening bro....

[RandiFan1290]

114. BUT?

[Electric Monk]

119. Locked out of their own push poll thread. ROTFLMAO nt

[TheProgressive]

126. Question?

If you are 'alerted' and your post is hidden - are you really locked out of the thread?

[Electric Monk]

129. Yes, when you have a post hidden you are no longer able to post in that thread

as well as being unable to post in that entire forum (in this case, General Discussion) for the next hour.

[TheProgressive]

130. Oh, wow! thank you for this info...

I don't plan on writing anything that is 'alert-able' but I guess
that is up to my fellow DUer!

Thanks again...!

[GreenStormCloud]

154. ALL of the Constitution still is the Law.

Even the parts you don't like.

[Kalidurga]

116. You are too funny.

I voted against just cause I knew that is the opposite of what you want. The second current 2A interpretation is crap. Oh and I love the 2A people that think they can take on the US government with their pea shooters. We all know how that ends when a group of people get it in their heads to take on the US government.

[Kalidurga]

122. Are you serious????

Why do I think it is a travesty that the US is the most armed nation in the world. That more than 10,000 people a year are murdered by guns another 30,000 commit suicide with guns. And we have gun nuts that think they can take on the US government with their pea shooters. Yes, when you face our government it won't matter what kind of gun you have. Apparently you have never heard of drones, so whatcha goin to do bad boy. Shoot the drone out of the sky? Then what are you going to do if you are face to face with the ATF. Do you really think you are going to take them on. Now, tell me why anyone would need an assault rifle. To stop a home invasion please if you are run over by a gang kiss your butt goodbye because even a gang could be more armed than you are. Seriously you are twisted dude.

[Lex]

123. Your guns are pea shooters against the US Military. How are they going to protect you

against the force of the United States?

That's just plain delusional.

[TheProgressive]

124. Can I be the first to post...

<that popcorn eating face thingy>

[nadinbrzezinski]

133. Other...I support it as originally intended

That includes militias and the social contract of drill...

I support the second as has been interpreted for most of history. This individual rights crapola started in the 1980s.

Complex and shady enough?

[FresnoDemocrat]

140. Of course I support Amendment II.

The question is, does "supporting Amendment II" necessarily mean "kneejerk opposition to any and all forms of gun control, preferably while screaming about Nazi Germany", as the Tea Partiers would have you believe?

[morningfog]

143. I support it as long as it is an Amendment. However, like all other Amendments, it

is subject to limitations. I think it should be subject to more limitations than it currently is. Much more stringent limits. Gun regulation is public safety.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

150. It's archaic, unnecessary, and downright stupid. Get rid of it.

[grantcart]

151. I support each state's national guard.

[Crunchy Frog]

153. Anachronism.

[xoom]

157. I support the second amendment.

[orpupilofnature57]

159. I support All Amendments .

[xoom]

160. As do I.

[orpupilofnature57]

161. Cool .

[xoom]

162. Sweet .

[Demo_Chris]

166. VERY interesting results.

I'd vote but I don't want to get put on anyone's ban list

[stone space]

168. I fully support the repeal of the 2nd Amendment. (nt)