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A Reminder That Ronald Reagan Was Shot (Original Post) kpete Jan 2013 OP
he's lucky that guy didn't know how to make a mercury round-- snooper2 Jan 2013 #1
what I can recall best was the small automatic irisblue Jan 2013 #2
Yeah, the guy with the Uzi. I'll never forget that. Aristus Jan 2013 #5
yeah him. irisblue Jan 2013 #9
Reagan and the people around him might have been dead. Jennicut Jan 2013 #21
must not have been any good guys with guns around i guess tk2kewl Jan 2013 #3
by a Bush family friend. Octafish Jan 2013 #4
woo n/t RomneyLies Jan 2013 #7
hoo laundry_queen Jan 2013 #10
transparently hates nutty woo woo OKNancy Jan 2013 #12
yeah laundry_queen Jan 2013 #13
At least they are not moderators anymore! Rex Jan 2013 #46
Octafish Posts Nutty Woo Woo? HangOnKids Jan 2013 #14
BTW laundry_queen Jan 2013 #17
how does discounting a supposed dinner OKNancy Jan 2013 #20
Actions speak louder than words. laundry_queen Jan 2013 #24
Calling A Post From An Esteemed DUer "Nutty Woo Woo" Is Now Defined As Discounting The Post? HangOnKids Jan 2013 #30
In 11 years, I have never used the Alert function (except two or three times for hate postings) Octafish Jan 2013 #34
Bwhahahahahahahaha! zappaman Jan 2013 #42
Those posts were a tad too long for you, eh? nt laundry_queen Jan 2013 #51
I am sensing some sort of animosity here siligut Jan 2013 #70
Funny, had nothing to do with you. Rex Jan 2013 #47
It was a pushing of CT RomneyLies Jan 2013 #27
You simply call it woo or CT to squash any discussion, just like the right-wing does laundry_queen Jan 2013 #35
Good Blessings On You My Dear! HangOnKids Jan 2013 #41
True, because they didn't need to seize power tavalon Jan 2013 #56
AP: Hinckley, Bush Kin Had Dinner Plans Octafish Jan 2013 #29
Shit Dude! Haven't You Posted Enough Woo For One Day? HangOnKids Jan 2013 #31
AP does have a record as lying in the service of the National Security State. Octafish Jan 2013 #37
Thank You The Woo Meme Has Really Pissed Me Off HangOnKids Jan 2013 #39
Where are my net-manners? Octafish Jan 2013 #38
Ah Yes The Mighty Wurlitzer HangOnKids Jan 2013 #40
"The far left will do anything to discredit the military. - RomneyLies" Rex Jan 2013 #44
? RomneyLies Jan 2013 #48
You attack someone for WOO and get caught doing the same dam thing Rex Jan 2013 #49
Oh RomneyLies Jan 2013 #50
And other Bush family friends (and business partners) KansDem Jan 2013 #22
Thanks for reminding me, KansDem. Remember Mark Lombardi, the artist who documented social networks? Octafish Jan 2013 #33
Thanks! You've given me my reading for the weekend! KansDem Jan 2013 #52
He also knew Hinckley's cousin's brother's former roomate RZM Jan 2013 #32
The Bush Family: A Continuing Criminal Enterprise? Octafish Jan 2013 #53
I'm confused. Are you saying John Hinckley was a member of the Yakuza? RZM Jan 2013 #54
In academic terms, the professor detailed the workings of the Bush RICO case. Octafish Jan 2013 #55
You're trying to discount that the Bush's knew the Hinkley's? tavalon Jan 2013 #57
Not at all. But I haven't seen anybody argue why it matters either RZM Jan 2013 #58
Is there a case to be made that Hinkley wanted to impress Jodie Foster? tavalon Jan 2013 #59
And here's the reenactment of the, um... "shooting" Zorra Jan 2013 #65
What a heart wrenching video. thucythucy Jan 2013 #6
And, luckily for him, it wasn't with a semi-automatic rifle with a 50 bullet clip. Coyotl Jan 2013 #8
And Reagan in 1994 supported "The Brady Bill" napkinz Jan 2013 #11
Exactly. It was a response that was actually relevant to the crime we wanted to prevent Recursion Jan 2013 #15
When a nut with a gun nearly murders you and paralyzes your press secretary, nyquil_man Jan 2013 #25
and when your daughter is gay, all of a sudden, you support gay marriage ... napkinz Jan 2013 #28
That is conservatism in a nutshell laundry_queen Jan 2013 #36
It Is Called Narcissism HangOnKids Jan 2013 #43
Then there's the congresscritter mentality, nyquil_man Jan 2013 #45
To be fair to Ronald Wilson Reagan nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #61
Rachel last night discussed how Reagan and Dubya napkinz Jan 2013 #63
IMO we are closing to rock bottom nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #64
the Rethugs reach new depths of depravity; they never cease to amaze napkinz Jan 2013 #67
Nothing stays the same way forever. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #68
k & r SoapBox Jan 2013 #16
And Ronnie didn't know he was shot at first. Wolf Frankula Jan 2013 #18
That Kind of Says It All, Doesn't It? cer7711 Jan 2013 #19
I still cry when I see James Brady lying on the ground like that. n/t cynatnite Jan 2013 #23
This was very difficult for Frank Reynolds to announce--he was a close friend of Jim Brady. Mrs. Overall Jan 2013 #26
kick napkinz Jan 2013 #60
Hinckley's gaydar was on a par with his gun proficiency Tom Ripley Jan 2013 #62
he was shot by a mentally unstable man mnmoderatedem Jan 2013 #66
spending cuts & tax cuts are the answer to ALL our problems napkinz Jan 2013 #69
posted by MrScorpio ... napkinz Jan 2013 #71

irisblue

(32,969 posts)
2. what I can recall best was the small automatic
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 11:29 AM
Jan 2013

weapon appearing in the hand of the secret service agent who was back to the wall standing over Hinkley. How ugly would that have been if Hinkley had multiple rounds in a current automatic or semi automatic? Time for changing the gun laws

Aristus

(66,327 posts)
5. Yeah, the guy with the Uzi. I'll never forget that.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 12:46 PM
Jan 2013


I had always wondered where he had gotten that. Tough to conceal. Turns out, he carried it around in a briefcase.

So Reagan was surrounded by scads of well-armed, well-trained guards with automatic weapons, and still got shot. The gun-nuts' arguments are so full of shit...

Love the quote from The West Wing...

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
21. Reagan and the people around him might have been dead.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 01:42 PM
Jan 2013

Instead of injured.

I remember this happening when I was a kid. Horrifying to happen to any President, regardless of party.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
13. yeah
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 01:28 PM
Jan 2013

lets not talk about anything unless it's been reported and confirmed by the MSM because they are so trustworthy.

By that measure, they were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
20. how does discounting a supposed dinner
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 01:41 PM
Jan 2013

back many years ago and thinking it means nothing sticking up for the Bushes?
Obviously I wouldn't have been here since 2001 and have had as many posts with -0- hidden if that were the case.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
24. Actions speak louder than words.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 01:48 PM
Jan 2013

you are attacking a long time poster who has a history of posting really thoughtful posts about the Bush family whether you agree with them or not. What else am I supposed to conclude? And I don't give a crap how long you've been here - sounds like you're trying to pull rank or something. And you are sticking up for a poster who has been here 3 months and has posted (ETA almost) as many times as I have in 8 years. Ironic, no?

Why not just post, thoughtfully if you are capable, "I don't agree with you, Octafish, that the dinner meant anything because blahblahblah." Back in the day, which I'm sure you remember as a poster that goes back to 2001, we used to have long discussions on Octafish's posts with actual information and thoughtful opinions - not name-calling.

 

HangOnKids

(4,291 posts)
30. Calling A Post From An Esteemed DUer "Nutty Woo Woo" Is Now Defined As Discounting The Post?
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 02:28 PM
Jan 2013

Wow. That is mind boggling.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
34. In 11 years, I have never used the Alert function (except two or three times for hate postings)
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 02:41 PM
Jan 2013

I prefer a poster's words stand, not just to indict them for what they say, but to show what kind of Democrat they really are.

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
42. Bwhahahahahahahaha!
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 03:04 PM
Jan 2013

"a long time poster who has a history of posting really thoughtful posts about the Bush family"



 

RomneyLies

(3,333 posts)
27. It was a pushing of CT
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 02:12 PM
Jan 2013

The poster was pushing the ridiculous notion that the "BFEE" was attempting to have Reagan killed in order to seize power, which is pure woo.

I put that crap on ignore and mark where the ignore happened.

Woo is insanity, regardless of where the woo falls in the political spectrum.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
35. You simply call it woo or CT to squash any discussion, just like the right-wing does
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 02:41 PM
Jan 2013

it's a pattern with a few posters here. The rest of us know where those few come from too. Nice try though.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
56. True, because they didn't need to seize power
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 03:28 AM
Jan 2013

Ronnie was well on his way to vegetable by that time. Bush senior started what Cheney did in spades. It was a running gag on Saturday Night live. It was the best known secret around, that Ronnie wasn't playing with a full house. All they needed him for was the photo ops and sound bytes. He was pretty good at those for a B actor.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
37. AP does have a record as lying in the service of the National Security State.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 02:48 PM
Jan 2013

Wanna know why Media ignore war criminals? CIA calls the shots:



Correspondence and collusion between the New York Times and the CIA

Mark Mazzetti's emails with the CIA expose the degradation of journalism that has lost the imperative to be a check to power

Glenn Greenwald
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 29 August 2012 14.58 EDT

EXCERPT...

But what is news in this disclosure are the newly released emails between Mark Mazzetti, the New York Times's national security and intelligence reporter, and CIA spokeswoman Marie Harf. The CIA had evidently heard that Maureen Dowd was planning to write a column on the CIA's role in pumping the film-makers with information about the Bin Laden raid in order to boost Obama's re-election chances, and was apparently worried about how Dowd's column would reflect on them. On 5 August 2011 (a Friday night), Harf wrote an email to Mazzetti with the subject line: "Any word??", suggesting, obviously, that she and Mazzetti had already discussed Dowd's impending column and she was expecting an update from the NYT reporter.

SNIP...

Even more amazing is the reaction of the newspaper's managing editor, Dean Baquet, to these revelations, as reported by Politico's Dylan Byers:

"New York Times Managing Editor Dean Baquet called POLITICO to explain the situation, but provided little clarity, saying he could not go into detail on the issue because it was an intelligence matter.



CONTINUED with LINKS...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/aug/29/correspondence-collusion-new-york-times-cia



These really are cursed interesting times. One really has to read foreign papers and DU to get what should be in American newspapers, stuff like whatever happened to Freedom of the Press, Government of the People, By the People and For the People, and that golldarn scrap of paper thing, the Constitution?

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
38. Where are my net-manners?
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 02:56 PM
Jan 2013

Here's a screen shot of the March 31, 1981 article I referenced:



http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2206&dat=19810331&id=3gMtAAAAIBAJ&sjid=G_QFAAAAIBAJ&pg=3098,2655414

Sorry I forgot: Some DUers want me to use only approved sources. They have no idea about the Mighty Wurlitzer.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
22. And other Bush family friends (and business partners)
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 01:43 PM
Jan 2013

...masterminded the 9/11 attacks.

And yet, there's talk of Jeb running in 2016.

I say this country's had enough of the Bushes!

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
33. Thanks for reminding me, KansDem. Remember Mark Lombardi, the artist who documented social networks?
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 02:38 PM
Jan 2013

Lombardi chronicled the Bush-Bath-bin Ladin connection in 1999. The next year he was dead, a suicide. After September 11, the FBI showed up at the gallery to photograph his work.



George W. Bush, Harken Energy and Jackson Stephens
c. 1979-90, 5th Version
1999



"Obsessive—Generous"

Toward a Diagram of Mark Lombardi

by Frances Richard
wburg.com

Who is James R. Bath?

A nodal point in Mark Lombardi's drawing George W. Bush, Harken Energy and Jackson Stephens c. 1979-90, 5th Version, 1999, James R. Bath appears in the upper lefthand corner of the 16 1/2" x 41" piece of paper. The spatial syntax of Lombardi's drawings—which map in elegantly visual terms the secret deals and suspect associations of financiers, politicians, corporations, and governments—dictates that the more densely lines ray out from a given node, the more deeply that figure is embroiled in the tale Lombardi tells. Thirteen lines originate with or point to James R. Bath, more than any other name presented. Among those linked to this obscure yet central character are George W. Bush, Jr., George H.W. Bush, Sr., Senator Lloyd Bentsen of Texas, Governor John B. Connally of Texas, Sheik Salim bin Laden of Saudi Arabia, and Sheik Salim's younger brother, Osama bin Laden.

The drawing is done on pale beige paper, in pencil. It follows a time-line, with dates arrayed across three horizontal tiers. These in turn support arcs denoting personal and corporate alliances, the whole comprising a skeletal resume of George W. Bush's career in the oil business. In other words, the drawing, like all Lombardi's work, is a post-Conceptual reinvention of history painting, a document of factually verifiable yet extremely pared-down relationships limned in a double light of international fame and cryptic realpolitik. Or rather, the light is triple. For, though he possessed the instincts of a private eye and the acumen of a systems-analyst, Lombardi was of course an artist, and from the raw material of wire-service reports and books by political correspondents, he drew not only chronicles of covert, high-stakes trade, but technically pristine and sensually compelling visual forms. His project's sources are profoundly art-historical, even as they are obviously journalistic, and the creative tension between abstracted, self-propelling image and direct verbal communication propels his work. Delicately balanced and gracefully enlaced, these lines and circles read from across the room as purely retinal explorations of two-dimensional space. Their stylized complexity, however, lures the eye in, to a point where language registers as legible and referentiality asserts itself through the scrim of form. A narrative emerges. Looking shifts toward reading, and Lombardi's one-two punch lands.

James R. Bath, it turns out, is a Texas businessman, a sometime aeronautics broker whose firm, Skyway Aircraft Leasing, LTD., was a Cayman Islands front amassing money for use by Oliver North in the Iran-Contra affair. Bath also served as an agent minding American interests for a quartet of Saudi Arabian billionaires, one of whom was Sheik Salim bin Laden, the oldest son and heir of Sheik Mohammed bin Laden, father of fifty-four children including Osama. According to reports by the Houston Chronicle, the Wall Street Journal, Time, and others, Bath did business in his own name but with the Saudis' money; tax records indicate that he collected a fee of 5% on their multimillion dollar American investments. In 1979, Bath contributed $50,000 to Arbusto Energy, a limited-partnership controlled by George W. Bush. As Bath had little capital of his own, oil insiders trace the funds to his silent partners, specifically Salim bin Laden. Such cash infusions from Bath's client sheiks and George H.W. Bush's cartel cronies could not, however, prop Arbusto up. The venture collapsed in 1981 and merged into the Spectrum 7 Energy Corporation. Spectrum—still with W. at the helm—evolved through more near-failures and mergers into Harken Energy, which, in 1990, embarked upon a sweetheart deal to drill oil wells in Bahrain—this regardless of the fact that Harken had never drilled an overseas well, nor a marine well of any kind. Oil industry cognoscenti again assume that the Bahrain contract was orchestrated as a favor from the Saudis to the American chief executive and his family. The favor paid. On June 20, 1990, George W. Bush sold two-thirds of his Harken stock at $4 per share. Eight days later, Harken finished the second quarter with losses of $23 million; the stock promptly lost 75% of its value, finishing at just over $1 per share. Two months later, Iraq invaded Kuwait, and the Gulf War began. All these events are cited in Lombardi's drawing.

Meanwhile, another Bath associate, Sheik Khalid bin Mafouz, was involved in the collapse (in July, 1991) of the Bank of Credit and Commerce, International, better known as BCCI. Among the sins of the Pakistani-owned BCCI were money-laundering on behalf of Colombian druglords, arms brokering, bribery, and aid to terrorists; when this cabal came unglued, millions of investors in seventy-three countries lost their life-savings. Although Bath was not personally implicated in the BCCI fiasco, an estranged business partner claims that that he, Bath, had been recruited to the CIA in 1976-77 by George Bush, Sr., after serving in the Texas Air National Guard as the buddy of George Bush, Jr. (in 1972, the two young men narrowly escaped arrest for cocaine possession). Bath's putative CIA connections, the Agency's operations in the Middle East, and the adventures of BCCI thus compose a kind of symmetry. The byzantine saga of BCCI's demise is plotted in the drawing that is perhaps Lombardi's masterwork, BCCI-ICIC-FAB, c. 1972-1991, (4th Version), 1996-2000. Unveiled in the landmark P.S. 1 exhibition "Greater New York" in 2000, this piece signaled Lombardi's arrival at the cusp of art world fame; it is now in the permanent collection of the Whitney Museum. A wall-size panel schematizing twenty years of suspect alliances amongst scores of players, BCCI-ICIC-FAB… was the last major work the artist made before his death.

For those who followed the BCCI scandal—or the Harken Energy/insider trading scandal, or the Banca Nazionale del Lavoro scandal, or the Lincoln Savings & Loan scandal, or any of Lombardi's pet juggernauts—these diagrams summarize rather than amend available knowledge. He was always careful to explain that he did not conduct primary investigations, but culled his information exclusively from the public record; a basic Internet search yields multiple references to the Bath/Bush/bin Laden connection. However, ferreting out and adding up in one's own head the myriad fragments scattered across the infotainment megascape is a very different experience from standing before Lombardi's rhythmic plots. In the strangely contemplative and yet galvanizing presence of these images, the graphic equilibrium with which he invests his subjects is transformative. To track these events in the context of the drawings is to experience their import freshly, to undergo a shock of mixed recognition and surprise.

CONTINUED...

http://www.wburg.com/0202/arts/lombardi.html



A particularly relevant detail:



More detail on the artist and his work:



Mark Lombardi and the Ecstasy of Conspiracy

Michael Bierut

With the 40th anniversary of the assassination of JFK freshly behind us, our abiding romance with conspiracy theories seems more ardent than ever. And one of the most remarkable expressions of that romance is on view at The Drawing Center in New York, "Global Networks," an exhibition of the work of Mark Lombardi. In an age where we all dimly sense that The Truth Is Out There, Lombardi's extraordinary drawings aim to provide all the answers.



Although Lombardi's work has combined the mesmerizing detail of the engineering diagram and the obsessive annotation of the outsider artist, the man was neither scientist nor madman. Armed with a BA in art history, he began as a researcher and archivist in the Houston fine arts community with a passing interest in corporate scandal, financial malfeasance, and the hidden web of connections that seemed to connect, for instance, the Mafia, the Vatican bank, and the 1980's savings and loan debacle. His initial explorations were narrative, but in 1993 he made the discovery that some kinds of information are best expressed diagrammatically.

The resulting body of work must be seen to be believed — an admittedly oxymoronic endorsement of subject matter of such supreme skepticism. Lombardi's delicate tracings, mostly in black pencil with the occasional red accent, cover enormous sheets of paper (many over four feet high and eight feet long), mapping the deliriously Byzantine relationships of, say, Oliver North, Lake Resources of Panama, and the Iran-Contra operation, or Global International Airways and the Indian Springs State Bank of Kansas City. Because the work visualizes connections rather than causality, Lombardi was able to take the same liberties as Harry Beck's 1933 map for the London Underground, freely arranging the players to create gorgeous patterns: swirling spheres, hopscotching arcs, wheels within wheels.



Detail, Mark Lombardi, George W. Bush, Harken Energy, and Jackson Stephens, ca. 1979-90 (5th version), 1999

Lombardi was indeed an enthusiastic student of information design, a reader of Edward Tufte and a collector of the charts of Nigel Holmes. But if the goal of information design is to make things clear, Lombardi's drawings, in fact, do the opposite. The hypnotic miasma of names, institutions, corporations and locations that envelop each drawing demonstrates nothing if not the inherent -- the intentional -- unknowability of each of these networks. Like Rube Goldberg devices, their only meaning is their ecstatic complexity; like Hitchcockian McGuffins, understanding them is less important than simply knowing they exist.

Lomardi, who was born in 1951 and died in 2000, did not live to see today's historical moment, where his worldview seems not eccentric but positively prescient. His drawing BCCI-ICIC & FAB, 1972-91 (4th version) was studied in situ at the Whitney Museum by F.B.I. agents in the days after 9/11; reportedly, consultants to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security previewed the current show at the Drawing Center. One wonders whether he would have felt vindicated or alarmed by this kind of attention.

The catalog for the exhibition, which was organized by Robert Hobbs and Independent Curators International, cannot possibly do the drawings justice. But it may be worth it for the extended captions alone, each one of which could serve as an outline for a pretty decent John leCarre novel. And in what other art catalog could you find an index where (under the Cs alone) one finds Canadian Armament and Research Development Establishment; capitalism; Capone, Al; Castro, Fidel, and conceptual art? And it is in the catalog that one finds, tossed away almost casually in a footnote, the following fact: "The police report cited suicide by hanging as the reason for Mark Lombardi's death. The door to his studio was locked from the inside." That last detail is an all-too-common device in mystery novels, where it inevitably raises the same question: yes, that's how it seems, but what really happened? Mark Lombardi's work tries, valiantly, to answer that very question.

11.24.03

http://www.designobserver.com/archives/000072.html



Thank you for digging what this is about, KansDem.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
52. Thanks! You've given me my reading for the weekend!
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:47 PM
Jan 2013

I'm also perplexed as to why our investigative media have not asked W Bush about his contradictory statements regarding when he initially learned of the first WTC attack.

He said he "saw it"--



Then he said he was "informed about it" (0'50&quot --


Two completely different versions from the Commander in Chief. Yet, no one asks him to clarify.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
53. The Bush Family: A Continuing Criminal Enterprise?
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:04 PM
Jan 2013


What a smart guy said:



The Bush Family: A Continuing Criminal Enterprise?

Gary W. Potter, PhD.
Professor, Criminal Justice
Eastern Kentucky University

The S&Ls, the Mob and the Bushs

During the 1980's hundred of Savings and Loan Banks failed. Those bank failures cost U.S. taxpayers over $500 billion to cover federally insured losses, and much more to investigate the bank failures (Pizzo, Fricker, and Muolo, 1989; Brewton, 1992; Johnston, 1990). More than 75% of the Savings and Loan insolvencies where directly linked to serious and often criminal misconduct by senior financial insiders (Pizzo, Fricker and Muolo, 1989: 305). In fact, less than 10 percent of bank failures are related to economic conditions, the rest are caused by mismanagement or criminal conduct (Pizzo, Fricker and Muolo, 1989: 305).

A good example of the Savings and Loan failures can be found in the activities of Mario Renda, a Savings and Loan insider who often worked in close collaboration with organized crime (Pizzo, Fricker and Muolo, 1989: 123-126;302). Renda served as a middle man in arranging about $5 billion a year in deposits into 130 Savings and Loans, all of which failed (Kwitny, 1992: 27). Many of these deposits were made contingent on an agreement that the Savings and Loan involved would lend money to borrowers recommended by Renda, many of whom were organized crime figures or people entirely unknown to the banking institution involved (Kwitny, 1992: 27).

SNIP...

Prescott Bush: The Yakuza’s Frontman

Finally, and perhaps most seriously, the Bush family pioneered the practice which has now become commonplace of collaboration between corporate and organized criminals. Prescott Bush, uncle of the current President and brother of the former President, played a key role in helping the Japanese Yakuza extend their financial and real estate holdings to the United States. In 1989, Prescott Bush made arrangements for a front company for Japanese organized crime groups to buy into two U.S. corporations and to make a sizeable real investment in the U.S. (Helm, 1991a: 1; Isikoff, 1992: A1). West Tsusho, a Japanese corporation, was identified by Japanese police officials as a front company for one of that country’s largest organized crime syndicates. Prescott Bush was paid a fee of $500,000 for his help in negotiating West Tsusho’s purchase of controlling interest in Assets Management, a U.S. corporation (Helm, 1991a: 1; Isikoff, 1992: A1). Bush also assisted the Japanese mob in investing in Quantam Access, a U.S. software company, which was ultimately taken over by the Japanese (Helm, 1991b: 10; Isikoff, 1992: A1). Both companies ultimately went into bankruptcy (Isikoff, 1992: A1; Moses, 1992).

George Bush Sr.: Shutting Down the Organize Crime Strike Forces

Despite assessments from senior law enforcement officers and experts on organized crime that efforts to control organized crime would be crippled, in December 1989, the administration of George Bush, Sr. abolished all 14 regional organized crime strike forces (McAlister, 1989: A 21; Struck out, 1990). The organized crime strike had been created as independent entities so they would not be subject to political influences or bureaucratic wrangling within federal law enforcement. In the two decades of their operation the strike forces had secured convictions of major organized crime figures in several U.S. cities (Struck out, 1990). It is at the very least curious to note that the federal strike force in Miami had been responsible for indicting Miguel Recarey, the man for whom Jeb Bush had intervened with regulators. Organized crime strike forces had similarly indicted Mario Renda, the organized crime liaison to the S& L’s, as well as several other key figures in the Savings and Loan Fiasco (Pizzo, Fricker, and Mulolo, 1989: 112, 120-123, 303, 337).

CONTINUED...

http://critcrim.org/critpapers/potter.htm



That's the way a professor of criminal justice puts it. Me, to get a better handle on War Inc's first family, I call them the "BFEE" for short.
 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
54. I'm confused. Are you saying John Hinckley was a member of the Yakuza?
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:09 PM
Jan 2013

Not sure what any of this has to do with the assassination attempt on Reagan.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
55. In academic terms, the professor detailed the workings of the Bush RICO case.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:45 PM
Jan 2013

You brought up college -- in a derisive way, I might add -- by quoting Dark Helmet. Remember?



Anyway, I just like to point out how the BFEE brand also represents the First Family of War Inc.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
57. You're trying to discount that the Bush's knew the Hinkley's?
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 03:31 AM
Jan 2013

What's your point? It's a known fact.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
58. Not at all. But I haven't seen anybody argue why it matters either
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 12:07 PM
Jan 2013

If there's a case to be made, make it.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
59. Is there a case to be made that Hinkley wanted to impress Jodie Foster?
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 05:49 AM
Jan 2013

Does that make more sense than out of the millions of families that the Bush family knew, Hinkley came from a family that was friends with the Bush family? That's pretty out there, too. But I will agree that it's correlation, not necessarily causation.

thucythucy

(8,048 posts)
6. What a heart wrenching video.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 12:49 PM
Jan 2013

The time it takes to get medical help to the injured on the ground seems like forever.

All of it is horrible, simply horrible.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
11. And Reagan in 1994 supported "The Brady Bill"
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 01:20 PM
Jan 2013

I can't remember whose show I heard that on --Ed's or Rachel's -- but he/she read the letter Reagan wrote to Republican Congress members back in 1994.



Recursion

(56,582 posts)
15. Exactly. It was a response that was actually relevant to the crime we wanted to prevent
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 01:31 PM
Jan 2013

And it was a good law, though now is the time to extend it to all firearms transfers, not just those through licensed dealers.

nyquil_man

(1,443 posts)
25. When a nut with a gun nearly murders you and paralyzes your press secretary,
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 01:55 PM
Jan 2013

suddenly gun control seems sensible.

Go figure.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
28. and when your daughter is gay, all of a sudden, you support gay marriage ...
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 02:25 PM
Jan 2013

... Dick Cheney

And when your community is devastated by a natural disaster, all of a sudden you support federal aid ...

... Chris Christie

I can go on.

Conservatives can't seem to feel empathy. They wake up only when an issue hits them directly.




 

HangOnKids

(4,291 posts)
43. It Is Called Narcissism
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 03:04 PM
Jan 2013

The delicate flowers just wilt, I tell you wilt, when they have to face adversity. Fucking cowards.

nyquil_man

(1,443 posts)
45. Then there's the congresscritter mentality,
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 03:11 PM
Jan 2013

which holds that government is only bad if it's spending money in someone else's district.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
61. To be fair to Ronald Wilson Reagan
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 01:30 PM
Jan 2013

He would not be a Republican today, and he was for gun control measures before he was shot.

Just saying.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
63. Rachel last night discussed how Reagan and Dubya
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 01:34 PM
Jan 2013

were for banning assault weapons and supported universal background checks. (She played a clip of Dubya in 2004.)

Who could have imagined yesterday's right-wing nuts would be rejected by today's right wing nuts?

I'm afraid what tomorrow's right-wings nuts will be like, those of 2020 and 2030.








napkinz

(17,199 posts)
67. the Rethugs reach new depths of depravity; they never cease to amaze
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 04:12 PM
Jan 2013

Before 2011, who would have believed a party could use the debt ceiling to threaten the WORLD economy?

They just keep setting new lows.

(To think, in ten years, things will be so bad that we'll look back at today's far-right and say, "Remember when they were more, ahem, 'moderate'&quot




Wolf Frankula

(3,600 posts)
18. And Ronnie didn't know he was shot at first.
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 01:39 PM
Jan 2013

I think it was Will Durst who said, "I don't know about you, but I want a president with a central nervous system."

Actually that ABC broadcast was right. Ronald Reagan WAS killed and an actor named George T. Fredericks took his place. Not much was known about Fredericks, but it seems he was a friend of the Bush family.

Wolf

mnmoderatedem

(3,727 posts)
66. he was shot by a mentally unstable man
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 03:27 PM
Jan 2013

and Reagan cut funding to mental treatment facilities. Ironic, no?
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