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A Reminder That Ronald Reagan Was Shotwhile surrounded by "the best trained armed guards in the history of the world."
http://driftglass.blogspot.com/2013/01/a-reminder-that-ronald-reagan-was-shot.html
snooper2
(30,151 posts)irisblue
(32,969 posts)weapon appearing in the hand of the secret service agent who was back to the wall standing over Hinkley. How ugly would that have been if Hinkley had multiple rounds in a current automatic or semi automatic? Time for changing the gun laws
Aristus
(66,327 posts)I had always wondered where he had gotten that. Tough to conceal. Turns out, he carried it around in a briefcase.
So Reagan was surrounded by scads of well-armed, well-trained guards with automatic weapons, and still got shot. The gun-nuts' arguments are so full of shit...
Love the quote from The West Wing...
irisblue
(32,969 posts)it seemed that gun appeared by magic.
Jennicut
(25,415 posts)Instead of injured.
I remember this happening when I was a kid. Horrifying to happen to any President, regardless of party.
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1162932
RomneyLies
(3,333 posts)laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)so transparent, you are.
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)as do many of us here at DU.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)lets not talk about anything unless it's been reported and confirmed by the MSM because they are so trustworthy.
By that measure, they were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
Rex
(65,616 posts)We can be thankful for a few things.
HangOnKids
(4,291 posts)Woo knew?
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)it warms my heart to see 2 DU posters stick up for the Bushes. Really, it does.
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)back many years ago and thinking it means nothing sticking up for the Bushes?
Obviously I wouldn't have been here since 2001 and have had as many posts with -0- hidden if that were the case.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)you are attacking a long time poster who has a history of posting really thoughtful posts about the Bush family whether you agree with them or not. What else am I supposed to conclude? And I don't give a crap how long you've been here - sounds like you're trying to pull rank or something. And you are sticking up for a poster who has been here 3 months and has posted (ETA almost) as many times as I have in 8 years. Ironic, no?
Why not just post, thoughtfully if you are capable, "I don't agree with you, Octafish, that the dinner meant anything because blahblahblah." Back in the day, which I'm sure you remember as a poster that goes back to 2001, we used to have long discussions on Octafish's posts with actual information and thoughtful opinions - not name-calling.
HangOnKids
(4,291 posts)Wow. That is mind boggling.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)I prefer a poster's words stand, not just to indict them for what they say, but to show what kind of Democrat they really are.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)"a long time poster who has a history of posting really thoughtful posts about the Bush family"
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)siligut
(12,272 posts)A few too many RFLMAOs for simple dissension.
Rex
(65,616 posts)RomneyLies
(3,333 posts)The poster was pushing the ridiculous notion that the "BFEE" was attempting to have Reagan killed in order to seize power, which is pure woo.
I put that crap on ignore and mark where the ignore happened.
Woo is insanity, regardless of where the woo falls in the political spectrum.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)it's a pattern with a few posters here. The rest of us know where those few come from too. Nice try though.
HangOnKids
(4,291 posts)We know from whence the stench is coming.
tavalon
(27,985 posts)Ronnie was well on his way to vegetable by that time. Bush senior started what Cheney did in spades. It was a running gag on Saturday Night live. It was the best known secret around, that Ronnie wasn't playing with a full house. All they needed him for was the photo ops and sound bytes. He was pretty good at those for a B actor.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)HangOnKids
(4,291 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Wanna know why Media ignore war criminals? CIA calls the shots:
Correspondence and collusion between the New York Times and the CIA
Mark Mazzetti's emails with the CIA expose the degradation of journalism that has lost the imperative to be a check to power
Glenn Greenwald
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 29 August 2012 14.58 EDT
EXCERPT...
But what is news in this disclosure are the newly released emails between Mark Mazzetti, the New York Times's national security and intelligence reporter, and CIA spokeswoman Marie Harf. The CIA had evidently heard that Maureen Dowd was planning to write a column on the CIA's role in pumping the film-makers with information about the Bin Laden raid in order to boost Obama's re-election chances, and was apparently worried about how Dowd's column would reflect on them. On 5 August 2011 (a Friday night), Harf wrote an email to Mazzetti with the subject line: "Any word??", suggesting, obviously, that she and Mazzetti had already discussed Dowd's impending column and she was expecting an update from the NYT reporter.
SNIP...
Even more amazing is the reaction of the newspaper's managing editor, Dean Baquet, to these revelations, as reported by Politico's Dylan Byers:
"New York Times Managing Editor Dean Baquet called POLITICO to explain the situation, but provided little clarity, saying he could not go into detail on the issue because it was an intelligence matter.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/aug/29/correspondence-collusion-new-york-times-cia
These really are cursed interesting times. One really has to read foreign papers and DU to get what should be in American newspapers, stuff like whatever happened to Freedom of the Press, Government of the People, By the People and For the People, and that golldarn scrap of paper thing, the Constitution?
HangOnKids
(4,291 posts)It is tired, trite, tedious, and mendacious.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Here's a screen shot of the March 31, 1981 article I referenced:
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2206&dat=19810331&id=3gMtAAAAIBAJ&sjid=G_QFAAAAIBAJ&pg=3098,2655414
Sorry I forgot: Some DUers want me to use only approved sources. They have no idea about the Mighty Wurlitzer.
HangOnKids
(4,291 posts)Fine thing that.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Hypocrite much?
Rex
(65,616 posts)but please continue.
Yeah.
Right.
KansDem
(28,498 posts)...masterminded the 9/11 attacks.
And yet, there's talk of Jeb running in 2016.
I say this country's had enough of the Bushes!
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Lombardi chronicled the Bush-Bath-bin Ladin connection in 1999. The next year he was dead, a suicide. After September 11, the FBI showed up at the gallery to photograph his work.
George W. Bush, Harken Energy and Jackson Stephens
c. 1979-90, 5th Version
1999
"ObsessiveGenerous"
Toward a Diagram of Mark Lombardi
by Frances Richard
wburg.com
Who is James R. Bath?
A nodal point in Mark Lombardi's drawing George W. Bush, Harken Energy and Jackson Stephens c. 1979-90, 5th Version, 1999, James R. Bath appears in the upper lefthand corner of the 16 1/2" x 41" piece of paper. The spatial syntax of Lombardi's drawingswhich map in elegantly visual terms the secret deals and suspect associations of financiers, politicians, corporations, and governmentsdictates that the more densely lines ray out from a given node, the more deeply that figure is embroiled in the tale Lombardi tells. Thirteen lines originate with or point to James R. Bath, more than any other name presented. Among those linked to this obscure yet central character are George W. Bush, Jr., George H.W. Bush, Sr., Senator Lloyd Bentsen of Texas, Governor John B. Connally of Texas, Sheik Salim bin Laden of Saudi Arabia, and Sheik Salim's younger brother, Osama bin Laden.
The drawing is done on pale beige paper, in pencil. It follows a time-line, with dates arrayed across three horizontal tiers. These in turn support arcs denoting personal and corporate alliances, the whole comprising a skeletal resume of George W. Bush's career in the oil business. In other words, the drawing, like all Lombardi's work, is a post-Conceptual reinvention of history painting, a document of factually verifiable yet extremely pared-down relationships limned in a double light of international fame and cryptic realpolitik. Or rather, the light is triple. For, though he possessed the instincts of a private eye and the acumen of a systems-analyst, Lombardi was of course an artist, and from the raw material of wire-service reports and books by political correspondents, he drew not only chronicles of covert, high-stakes trade, but technically pristine and sensually compelling visual forms. His project's sources are profoundly art-historical, even as they are obviously journalistic, and the creative tension between abstracted, self-propelling image and direct verbal communication propels his work. Delicately balanced and gracefully enlaced, these lines and circles read from across the room as purely retinal explorations of two-dimensional space. Their stylized complexity, however, lures the eye in, to a point where language registers as legible and referentiality asserts itself through the scrim of form. A narrative emerges. Looking shifts toward reading, and Lombardi's one-two punch lands.
James R. Bath, it turns out, is a Texas businessman, a sometime aeronautics broker whose firm, Skyway Aircraft Leasing, LTD., was a Cayman Islands front amassing money for use by Oliver North in the Iran-Contra affair. Bath also served as an agent minding American interests for a quartet of Saudi Arabian billionaires, one of whom was Sheik Salim bin Laden, the oldest son and heir of Sheik Mohammed bin Laden, father of fifty-four children including Osama. According to reports by the Houston Chronicle, the Wall Street Journal, Time, and others, Bath did business in his own name but with the Saudis' money; tax records indicate that he collected a fee of 5% on their multimillion dollar American investments. In 1979, Bath contributed $50,000 to Arbusto Energy, a limited-partnership controlled by George W. Bush. As Bath had little capital of his own, oil insiders trace the funds to his silent partners, specifically Salim bin Laden. Such cash infusions from Bath's client sheiks and George H.W. Bush's cartel cronies could not, however, prop Arbusto up. The venture collapsed in 1981 and merged into the Spectrum 7 Energy Corporation. Spectrumstill with W. at the helmevolved through more near-failures and mergers into Harken Energy, which, in 1990, embarked upon a sweetheart deal to drill oil wells in Bahrainthis regardless of the fact that Harken had never drilled an overseas well, nor a marine well of any kind. Oil industry cognoscenti again assume that the Bahrain contract was orchestrated as a favor from the Saudis to the American chief executive and his family. The favor paid. On June 20, 1990, George W. Bush sold two-thirds of his Harken stock at $4 per share. Eight days later, Harken finished the second quarter with losses of $23 million; the stock promptly lost 75% of its value, finishing at just over $1 per share. Two months later, Iraq invaded Kuwait, and the Gulf War began. All these events are cited in Lombardi's drawing.
Meanwhile, another Bath associate, Sheik Khalid bin Mafouz, was involved in the collapse (in July, 1991) of the Bank of Credit and Commerce, International, better known as BCCI. Among the sins of the Pakistani-owned BCCI were money-laundering on behalf of Colombian druglords, arms brokering, bribery, and aid to terrorists; when this cabal came unglued, millions of investors in seventy-three countries lost their life-savings. Although Bath was not personally implicated in the BCCI fiasco, an estranged business partner claims that that he, Bath, had been recruited to the CIA in 1976-77 by George Bush, Sr., after serving in the Texas Air National Guard as the buddy of George Bush, Jr. (in 1972, the two young men narrowly escaped arrest for cocaine possession). Bath's putative CIA connections, the Agency's operations in the Middle East, and the adventures of BCCI thus compose a kind of symmetry. The byzantine saga of BCCI's demise is plotted in the drawing that is perhaps Lombardi's masterwork, BCCI-ICIC-FAB, c. 1972-1991, (4th Version), 1996-2000. Unveiled in the landmark P.S. 1 exhibition "Greater New York" in 2000, this piece signaled Lombardi's arrival at the cusp of art world fame; it is now in the permanent collection of the Whitney Museum. A wall-size panel schematizing twenty years of suspect alliances amongst scores of players, BCCI-ICIC-FAB was the last major work the artist made before his death.
For those who followed the BCCI scandalor the Harken Energy/insider trading scandal, or the Banca Nazionale del Lavoro scandal, or the Lincoln Savings & Loan scandal, or any of Lombardi's pet juggernautsthese diagrams summarize rather than amend available knowledge. He was always careful to explain that he did not conduct primary investigations, but culled his information exclusively from the public record; a basic Internet search yields multiple references to the Bath/Bush/bin Laden connection. However, ferreting out and adding up in one's own head the myriad fragments scattered across the infotainment megascape is a very different experience from standing before Lombardi's rhythmic plots. In the strangely contemplative and yet galvanizing presence of these images, the graphic equilibrium with which he invests his subjects is transformative. To track these events in the context of the drawings is to experience their import freshly, to undergo a shock of mixed recognition and surprise.
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http://www.wburg.com/0202/arts/lombardi.html
A particularly relevant detail:
More detail on the artist and his work:
Mark Lombardi and the Ecstasy of Conspiracy
Michael Bierut
With the 40th anniversary of the assassination of JFK freshly behind us, our abiding romance with conspiracy theories seems more ardent than ever. And one of the most remarkable expressions of that romance is on view at The Drawing Center in New York, "Global Networks," an exhibition of the work of Mark Lombardi. In an age where we all dimly sense that The Truth Is Out There, Lombardi's extraordinary drawings aim to provide all the answers.
Although Lombardi's work has combined the mesmerizing detail of the engineering diagram and the obsessive annotation of the outsider artist, the man was neither scientist nor madman. Armed with a BA in art history, he began as a researcher and archivist in the Houston fine arts community with a passing interest in corporate scandal, financial malfeasance, and the hidden web of connections that seemed to connect, for instance, the Mafia, the Vatican bank, and the 1980's savings and loan debacle. His initial explorations were narrative, but in 1993 he made the discovery that some kinds of information are best expressed diagrammatically.
The resulting body of work must be seen to be believed an admittedly oxymoronic endorsement of subject matter of such supreme skepticism. Lombardi's delicate tracings, mostly in black pencil with the occasional red accent, cover enormous sheets of paper (many over four feet high and eight feet long), mapping the deliriously Byzantine relationships of, say, Oliver North, Lake Resources of Panama, and the Iran-Contra operation, or Global International Airways and the Indian Springs State Bank of Kansas City. Because the work visualizes connections rather than causality, Lombardi was able to take the same liberties as Harry Beck's 1933 map for the London Underground, freely arranging the players to create gorgeous patterns: swirling spheres, hopscotching arcs, wheels within wheels.
Detail, Mark Lombardi, George W. Bush, Harken Energy, and Jackson Stephens, ca. 1979-90 (5th version), 1999
Lombardi was indeed an enthusiastic student of information design, a reader of Edward Tufte and a collector of the charts of Nigel Holmes. But if the goal of information design is to make things clear, Lombardi's drawings, in fact, do the opposite. The hypnotic miasma of names, institutions, corporations and locations that envelop each drawing demonstrates nothing if not the inherent -- the intentional -- unknowability of each of these networks. Like Rube Goldberg devices, their only meaning is their ecstatic complexity; like Hitchcockian McGuffins, understanding them is less important than simply knowing they exist.
Lomardi, who was born in 1951 and died in 2000, did not live to see today's historical moment, where his worldview seems not eccentric but positively prescient. His drawing BCCI-ICIC & FAB, 1972-91 (4th version) was studied in situ at the Whitney Museum by F.B.I. agents in the days after 9/11; reportedly, consultants to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security previewed the current show at the Drawing Center. One wonders whether he would have felt vindicated or alarmed by this kind of attention.
The catalog for the exhibition, which was organized by Robert Hobbs and Independent Curators International, cannot possibly do the drawings justice. But it may be worth it for the extended captions alone, each one of which could serve as an outline for a pretty decent John leCarre novel. And in what other art catalog could you find an index where (under the Cs alone) one finds Canadian Armament and Research Development Establishment; capitalism; Capone, Al; Castro, Fidel, and conceptual art? And it is in the catalog that one finds, tossed away almost casually in a footnote, the following fact: "The police report cited suicide by hanging as the reason for Mark Lombardi's death. The door to his studio was locked from the inside." That last detail is an all-too-common device in mystery novels, where it inevitably raises the same question: yes, that's how it seems, but what really happened? Mark Lombardi's work tries, valiantly, to answer that very question.
11.24.03
http://www.designobserver.com/archives/000072.html
Thank you for digging what this is about, KansDem.
KansDem
(28,498 posts)I'm also perplexed as to why our investigative media have not asked W Bush about his contradictory statements regarding when he initially learned of the first WTC attack.
He said he "saw it"--
Then he said he was "informed about it" (0'50" --
Two completely different versions from the Commander in Chief. Yet, no one asks him to clarify.
RZM
(8,556 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)What a smart guy said:
The Bush Family: A Continuing Criminal Enterprise?
Gary W. Potter, PhD.
Professor, Criminal Justice
Eastern Kentucky University
The S&Ls, the Mob and the Bushs
During the 1980's hundred of Savings and Loan Banks failed. Those bank failures cost U.S. taxpayers over $500 billion to cover federally insured losses, and much more to investigate the bank failures (Pizzo, Fricker, and Muolo, 1989; Brewton, 1992; Johnston, 1990). More than 75% of the Savings and Loan insolvencies where directly linked to serious and often criminal misconduct by senior financial insiders (Pizzo, Fricker and Muolo, 1989: 305). In fact, less than 10 percent of bank failures are related to economic conditions, the rest are caused by mismanagement or criminal conduct (Pizzo, Fricker and Muolo, 1989: 305).
A good example of the Savings and Loan failures can be found in the activities of Mario Renda, a Savings and Loan insider who often worked in close collaboration with organized crime (Pizzo, Fricker and Muolo, 1989: 123-126;302). Renda served as a middle man in arranging about $5 billion a year in deposits into 130 Savings and Loans, all of which failed (Kwitny, 1992: 27). Many of these deposits were made contingent on an agreement that the Savings and Loan involved would lend money to borrowers recommended by Renda, many of whom were organized crime figures or people entirely unknown to the banking institution involved (Kwitny, 1992: 27).
SNIP...
Prescott Bush: The Yakuzas Frontman
Finally, and perhaps most seriously, the Bush family pioneered the practice which has now become commonplace of collaboration between corporate and organized criminals. Prescott Bush, uncle of the current President and brother of the former President, played a key role in helping the Japanese Yakuza extend their financial and real estate holdings to the United States. In 1989, Prescott Bush made arrangements for a front company for Japanese organized crime groups to buy into two U.S. corporations and to make a sizeable real investment in the U.S. (Helm, 1991a: 1; Isikoff, 1992: A1). West Tsusho, a Japanese corporation, was identified by Japanese police officials as a front company for one of that countrys largest organized crime syndicates. Prescott Bush was paid a fee of $500,000 for his help in negotiating West Tsushos purchase of controlling interest in Assets Management, a U.S. corporation (Helm, 1991a: 1; Isikoff, 1992: A1). Bush also assisted the Japanese mob in investing in Quantam Access, a U.S. software company, which was ultimately taken over by the Japanese (Helm, 1991b: 10; Isikoff, 1992: A1). Both companies ultimately went into bankruptcy (Isikoff, 1992: A1; Moses, 1992).
George Bush Sr.: Shutting Down the Organize Crime Strike Forces
Despite assessments from senior law enforcement officers and experts on organized crime that efforts to control organized crime would be crippled, in December 1989, the administration of George Bush, Sr. abolished all 14 regional organized crime strike forces (McAlister, 1989: A 21; Struck out, 1990). The organized crime strike had been created as independent entities so they would not be subject to political influences or bureaucratic wrangling within federal law enforcement. In the two decades of their operation the strike forces had secured convictions of major organized crime figures in several U.S. cities (Struck out, 1990). It is at the very least curious to note that the federal strike force in Miami had been responsible for indicting Miguel Recarey, the man for whom Jeb Bush had intervened with regulators. Organized crime strike forces had similarly indicted Mario Renda, the organized crime liaison to the S& Ls, as well as several other key figures in the Savings and Loan Fiasco (Pizzo, Fricker, and Mulolo, 1989: 112, 120-123, 303, 337).
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http://critcrim.org/critpapers/potter.htm
That's the way a professor of criminal justice puts it. Me, to get a better handle on War Inc's first family, I call them the "BFEE" for short.
RZM
(8,556 posts)Not sure what any of this has to do with the assassination attempt on Reagan.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)You brought up college -- in a derisive way, I might add -- by quoting Dark Helmet. Remember?
Anyway, I just like to point out how the BFEE brand also represents the First Family of War Inc.
tavalon
(27,985 posts)What's your point? It's a known fact.
RZM
(8,556 posts)If there's a case to be made, make it.
tavalon
(27,985 posts)Does that make more sense than out of the millions of families that the Bush family knew, Hinkley came from a family that was friends with the Bush family? That's pretty out there, too. But I will agree that it's correlation, not necessarily causation.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)thucythucy
(8,048 posts)The time it takes to get medical help to the injured on the ground seems like forever.
All of it is horrible, simply horrible.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)napkinz
(17,199 posts)I can't remember whose show I heard that on --Ed's or Rachel's -- but he/she read the letter Reagan wrote to Republican Congress members back in 1994.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)And it was a good law, though now is the time to extend it to all firearms transfers, not just those through licensed dealers.
nyquil_man
(1,443 posts)suddenly gun control seems sensible.
Go figure.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)... Dick Cheney
And when your community is devastated by a natural disaster, all of a sudden you support federal aid ...
... Chris Christie
I can go on.
Conservatives can't seem to feel empathy. They wake up only when an issue hits them directly.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)conserve all the resources for themselves.
HangOnKids
(4,291 posts)The delicate flowers just wilt, I tell you wilt, when they have to face adversity. Fucking cowards.
nyquil_man
(1,443 posts)which holds that government is only bad if it's spending money in someone else's district.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)He would not be a Republican today, and he was for gun control measures before he was shot.
Just saying.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)were for banning assault weapons and supported universal background checks. (She played a clip of Dubya in 2004.)
Who could have imagined yesterday's right-wing nuts would be rejected by today's right wing nuts?
I'm afraid what tomorrow's right-wings nuts will be like, those of 2020 and 2030.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)napkinz
(17,199 posts)Before 2011, who would have believed a party could use the debt ceiling to threaten the WORLD economy?
They just keep setting new lows.
(To think, in ten years, things will be so bad that we'll look back at today's far-right and say, "Remember when they were more, ahem, 'moderate'"
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Wolf Frankula
(3,600 posts)I think it was Will Durst who said, "I don't know about you, but I want a president with a central nervous system."
Actually that ABC broadcast was right. Ronald Reagan WAS killed and an actor named George T. Fredericks took his place. Not much was known about Fredericks, but it seems he was a friend of the Bush family.
Wolf
cer7711
(502 posts)Thank you for reminding us.
cynatnite
(31,011 posts)Mrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)So sad.
nt
Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)mnmoderatedem
(3,727 posts)and Reagan cut funding to mental treatment facilities. Ironic, no?
napkinz
(17,199 posts)The Reagan Legacy